SF sweep brings them to 2 games back of the Jays. Would love to see a line up shake up using Ugly's calendar stats:

Would love for Schneider to use that line up as a baseline for now:

1. RF Lukes
2. 3B Okamoto
3. C Valenzuela
4. 1B Guerrero
5. DH Kirk
6. LF Springer
7. CF Varsho
8. 2B Clement
9. SS Gimenez

I don't care much about the lineup because everyone sucks. Since June 15, that lineup you posted has WRC+ of:
85
122
15
50
4
114
81
55
131

Meaningless trivia: The Giants have lost 11 games in a row in which Rupp started.

Actually your numbers are good and I'd revise the top of the order to be:

Gimenez
Okamoto
Lukes
Vlad
Springer

Kirk is broken.

Kaz seems to be slumping again

Jays have about 72 games left. That gives them a chance at around a 675 inning scoreless streak!

Jays scoreless through 5 innings, now at 29 scoreless in a row. It's the longest since 31 in a row 18 years age. Team record for futility is 32.

Kirk isn’t broken (although he looks terrible at the plate and in the field). However, he’s unlikely to be right until September at the earliest and probably not until next year.

On the other hand, Gausman looks vaguely toasty.

Guessing the Popkins replacement discussions are ongoing. I'll be surprised if he's still the hitting coach coming out of the AS break.

It's just such a weird and miserable season and I can't blame Schneider because what can he do? Stars cant hit, the team can't play defense, starters all got hurt. Juggling the lineup isn't going to do anything. I can't blame Atkins. Team went to 7th game of World Series last year and they added Cease who has been one of the best starters in baseball, added Okamoto who has been easily their best position player and way better than the guys they let go, added Rogers who has been great, added Miles who has been great and added Ponce who got hurt in first game and added Sanchez who has been mediocre (but at low cost).

The reason the Jays suck is really just this. as of July 5th. Vlad, Kirk, and Springer combined:

2025:
.295/.377/.484
70 HR
11.2% BB
141 wRC+
13.8 fWAR

2026 pace:
.241/.322/.354
25 HR
9.9% BB
91 wRC+
1.8 fWAR

That's it. Those three guys were amazing last year and while you'd expect regression from Springer, you didn't from Vlad and Kirk and maybe 9-11 WAR from them felt reasonable. not 1.8!!!!

Agreed Glevin. If you had said that the team that nearly won the World Series last year would add Cease, Okamoto, Rogers, Miles, Ponce, and Sanchez to the group they had (while losing Bichette), and they'd get the seasons they're having from the first four of those, you'd think things were going great. Not to mention Varland who they picked up at the deadline last year has been one of the best relivers in MLB.

The problem is so many of the guys who're already here have completely collapsed. 

I don't think it will be your typical Blue Jays trade deadline because of the amount of money ownership now spends on the team. They have a massive payroll and a massive market, which was unlocked last season. I'd say they're more likely to take on money, whether it's a Devers or, perhaps they are in the Skubal sweepstakes as well. It just goes hand in hand with playing at the table with the big spenders.

Once again let us point out how on point and rational this board is... It appears we have consensus on the bad luck or inexplicable results so far. Let me add that I am not a big Scheider fan (mostly because he's not Kevin Cash) but there isn't much he can do...it's all on the players.

Definitely I see a change coming with Popkins being the sacrificial lamb so to speak.

I don't listen to Blair and Barker often but I did yesterday and they were both on point. "Bad habits spread fast," and they were calling out the team..."even if they make the playoffs they will get steamrolled," or words to this effect. "Why wait, improve the team now for this season and for next season. The notion that you have to either buy and go all in or sell and do a fire sale is ridiculous...look at Varland and Berrios deals...there's no reason you can't get better for next year which will also help this year."

Some interesting points. I tuned into the game yesterday and was waiting for anything from this team to make me flinch. It didn't happen. Listless and apathetic and those Michael Cera ads are the worst of all time...who thought he would be a good spokesperson for the Blue Jays? Aimless and wasteful....give me Keanu Reaves or someone else to inject some excitement or at least those less cheesy incrustables commercials.

Quick side note: temporary GM in California Mr. Mozeliak said unequivocally that Mike Trout will not be traded. Boo. Now I have to hope San Diego is dumb enough to trade Fernando Tatis to the Blue Jays.

If I was in charge I'd be seriously listening to any offers right now that could help in '27 and beyond. I doubt they will add much in salary unless it helps in the future - so no Devers I doubt anyone wants that deal unless it comes with some underpriced talent too - but SF is quite rich (now that it has exclusive control over Oakland too I assume) so no need to dump.

I keep expecting SD to do a dump but they never do - they are now 1 game further from the playoffs than the Jays are. But could they be silly enough to trade Fernando Tatis Jr. with that 8 years left after this one deal ($271.7 mil)? I'd think they'd demand taking on Machado ($273.3 over 7) or Bogaerts ($178 over 7) as well. Yuck.

Seems Atkins is best at deals for prospects who are under the radar (ala Gillick - who found so many it was crazy). So I'd expect that type of deal - free agents to be for prospects who we go 'who?' with. Maybe attempt to get a name who can look good for the media/general public to dream on, but really odds are that isn't what helps in '27 and beyond. '26 is only going to work out if Vlad gets going, fast, and another hitter or two emerges now. Time is running out fast.

2027 Blue Jays features the following likely notable departures and additions:

Out:
Gausman
Bieber
Scherzer
Varsho
Springer
Garcia
Straw

In:
Perry
Bloss
Ponce
Berrios
Santander
Barger

Straw will likely be back in the same role, unless they extend Varsho and decide to actually find a decent RH OF (and perhaps even then).

Berrios isn't going to pitch, maybe at all, in 2027. If so it will be very late in the year.

Also, while I am not saying we can just write it in ink, there's a fairly strong chance Gausman will be back next year even if they trade him. Unless he retires. Make of that what you will.

if, surprisingly, Mazoliak were allowed to trade anyone else (not Trout) it would be typical Atkins to try and get Detmers. Like Joe Ryan he has control but the Twins are as close as the Jays are and may hold. Same with Alcantara, unless the collapse the Marlins can't defend trading him. That means Detmers, Soriano, and Waca from the Royals (I'm skeptical they want to let him go) are the SP with control beyond 2026.

I don't really think they'd be in deep on Skubal, the competition would be too tough. One thing that jumped out at me - offensively the Jays need a RH hitting OF. If you believe Bowden at the Athletic - so do half or more of the other potential contenders. Second only to "bullpen help" among the needs he cites.
Why? Because if you have a good one he is almost certainly not available. They are remarkably rare.

Also? I'd be STUNNED ifthey fire Popkins this year at all, let alone mid-season. Nothing that's hamstringing this success leads directly back to his work. As others have noted, between injuries (in which I count Springer's toe) and Vlad falling off a cliff, that's more than enough to account for overall offensive distress.

It is true that there are identifiable failures like situational hitting, but that feels more random than a coachable fix.

Part of what we have to reckon with is that 2025 was 5 or 6 months of catching basically EVERY break. It felt like magic because, so to speak, it was. That was always likely to regress to the norm, which is why they went out and added a lot more talent. What we got, rather than the mean, was the opposite outcome. Karma if you believe in that sort of thing. What has happened this year is also likely to regress to the mean.

At some point.

No way to know when.

In 2025, the Jays lost Santander to an injury essentially the whole year (first completely ineffective then on the IL), Varsho for half a year, Bichette for a while, and Bowden Francis.  I'd say that they had about average luck with their position players and above-average with their pitchers.  They made an excellent adaptation to the issues they had last year, but this year, it was just way too much and the whole team has been dragged down by it.  The Dodgers have the kind of depth to weather this level of problem, but the great majority of teams do not.  

Part of what we have to reckon with is that 2025 was 5 or 6 months of catching basically EVERY break.

I think too few fans acknowledged this when setting their baseline expectations for this year's team.

I mean.. I didn't expect Varsho to hit 40 or 50 HR or whatever pace he was on last year - but I didn't expect his defence to also crater. Lukes getting hurt just as he caught fire.. Barger basically out all year, etc. And while I'm not a true Vlad believer, I didn't expect him to be below 700 OPS either.

Gausman has remained healthy, but it seems like the league has finally adjusted to him? Only 2 pitches, eventually the league catches up, I would guess. Maybe he should go back to the NL for a while? 

Not surprised by Bieber - I posted sometime in May (IIRC) that him accepting the player option way below market value was a bad sign. Ponce was unfortunate. Scherzer is probably toast - feel good story about the letter from the daughter notwithstanding, I didn't want him back. He was too unreliable last year already.

There were a lot of small cracks last year starting to show (Bieber, Lauer, Scherzer) that were expected to hold, and while the additions have been good, the old cracks did not hold as expected but grew much larger. Sure, Kirk is better than Heineman was, but he's taking playing time away from Valenzuela (who may be getting out-of-rhythm now due to less playing time), etc. 

They didn't just now figure out Gausman after 5 years. Last year he had a seven game stretch heading into the break which yielded a 4.85 ERA. After the break his ERA was 2.81.

I wouldn't worry about him yet.

Gausman hates pitching without run support.
That's one thing I remember from 2024.

Chad Dallas is in SF.

and Pinango is off to AAA

Too many left handed bats? Or not enough defense?

Keys at DH.
Clase in LF.

George not in the lineup.

Dallas replaces Fisher who is on the bereavement list.
Clase will be out of options next year.

I like these moves but wonder why Springer isn't back.

Injury “luck” was a smaller part of “everything went right” last year (although the starting pitcher health luck had to turn this year after 2 straight years of unusually good health). Your mileage may vary but my rank ordering of “everything went right” last year is: a) leading the league in hitting with RISP; big gap then b) Schneider went on one of the great managerial heaters in the second half last year where every decision he made (logical or not and many were not) seemed to work out; and c) career seasons from the bottom of the roster players. When your team lacks power there’s a huge dollop of luck involved as to whether you score runs or not.

Stealing more bases would help, but they usually have enough runners in scoring position, they just strand then.

Defense is also down this year.

Well, given this year is rapidly looking like a write off might as well mix in Clase and see if there is anything there. Keys has looked good so far, not great, but there appears to be something there might as well see if it is real.

Lineup of hope for '26

• C: Valenzuela
• IF: 1B-Keys, 2B-McAdoo, SS-Kasevich, 3B-Keys again
• OF: Clase-Piñango-??? Shreck maybe?
• DH: natural position for Pinango or Keys, given Vlad being here for 13 more years after this one.

Yeah, I know, you can't put Keys at 2 positions, Okamoto would be at one, Vlad the other when both are healthy, Keys takes over either slot when needed. I'd test him in LF or RF depending on his arm. Why not?

Pitching is already 'who has an arm not ready to fall off'. Yesavage-Miles already in it, Cease here for years to come, Dallas might get a full shot if trades happen, Ponce has a slot in '27 for sure. Tiedemann & Bloss both need to prove they can pitch without falling apart first.

This is what it looks like when the BABIP Gods are kind to you (in case you’ve forgotten what it looks like).

it would solve so many problems if Clase was at least a good CF and maximized his offensive talents (i.e. physical gifts)

I'm not sure either of those will turn out to be true, but it would be good to have an internal option for replacing Varsho if he leaves.

I wouldn't be shocked by mid-year firings for Popkins or even Schneider although I agree it is more likely not to happen and it doesn't really see like it should be their fault. It is just what a lot of teams do when the team is below expectations. It is easier to fire coaches/managers than players and/or GM/ownership (and I don't blame our GMs either for this year either).

In theory the pieces are still here to make a good run, but the longer it goes until the wheels change the harder it is to make the run. It was later than this in the 2015 season when the Jays turned the corner in terms of wins/losses. Yes, the underlying numbers for the 2015 team were much, much rosier than the underlying numbers for this year's Jays team is, so it isn't an apples-to-apples comparisons, but I think the base talent of this year's team is significantly better than what has been shown so far, so some sort of turn around wouldn't be shocking (even if again, it is probably less likely than not).

Not holding my breath on Clase. He isn't even a good player in AAA. Still, team is so broken right now that bringing up guys and hoping for a spark seems to be best option. A lot of the issues with Kirk and Springer I think are long-term injuries they haven't fully recovered from. Jays, to me, look like they are doing what they did with Santander last year, which is to force play guys who clearly aren't healthy even if playing them is hurting the team. With Valenzuela around, they could easily play Kirk less and with Springer, they are giving him a good long stretch off now. Vlad is just confusing though. He says his lower back is hurting him but he's also taking 300 swings a day to practice. Jays need to sit him down for a few games before the all-star break and give him a week off. Playing him is hurting the team at this point.

I don't like Barker much but I heard him yesterday going off on the Jays swinging at the right pitches and I agree that this seems like the biggest issue to me. Ernie can do that because he's a unique kind of player but seeing Lukes swing at a first pitch ball down and away, seeing Vladdy swing at breaking balls on the hands at 2-0, seeing Springer swing at 3 straight pitches below the zone after going ahead 3-0...What are you doing? If it's a hitter's count, look for your pitch and try to drive it and the Jays are swinging defensively on 2-0 pitches. It's infuriating.

Glevin - I agree that pitch selection to swing at is a big problem. It’s very reminiscent of frustrations that were expressed about the 2024 offence. Because of that, it may just be who some of these hitters are. I think selection of pitches to hit is a skill and a different skill than plate control in general. Pitch selection to hit is my main concern with Nimmala going forward. Of course, there may be other factors driving this like hitting philosophy preached by the organization or hitters just trying to do too much individually because they know the lineup isn’t long enough to just “pass the baton”. There was a stretch a couple of weeks ago when the approach looked considerably better but its in the tank right now.

Kirk has a known injury and yes it makes sense to back him off.

Springer has a known issue and same deal, back him off.

Varsho also has gone public about his injured wrist and he has extra equipment that prevents him from bending/twisting his wrist past a point...just IL him

Vlad looked great in the beginning of the season going the other way, hitting .300+ but then he started to try to hit home runs and now his swing is confused.

I would expect the FO to fire one of the two hitting coaches to shake some things up.

Kirk and Okamoto have been dropped in the line up today. Skip counting on Springer and Vlad in the middle with Ernie and Clement before them.

Preseason Combined Projected wRC+ ---> This year wRC+


1B Guerrero 679pa, 148wrc+ ---> 368pa, 95wrc+ (-53)
DH Springer 595pa, 120wrc+ ---> 279pa, 93wrc+ (-27)
C Alejandro 495pa, 116wrc+ ---> 85pa, 49wrc+ (-67)
RF Barger 518pa, 109wrc+ ---> 28pa, 1wrc+ (-108)

3B Okamoto 560pa, 111wrc+ ---> 364pa, 114wrc+ (+3)
LF Sanchez 420pa, 106wrc+ ---> 234pa, 108wrc+ (+2)
CF Varsho 595pa, 102wrc+ ---> 291pa, 96wrc+ (-6)
2B Clement 644pa, 97wrc+ ---> 354pa, 109wrc+ (+12)
SS Gimenez 595pa, 95wrc+ ---> 302pa, 80wrc+ (-15)


UT Lukes 294pa, 108wrc+ ---> 205pa, 107wrc+ (-1)
OF Straw 182pa, 72wrc+ ---> 156pa, 77wrc+ (+5)
IF Schneider 322pa, 106wrc+ -> Schneider/Urias/Sosa 224pa, 62wrc+ (-44)
C Heineman 154pa, 83wrc+ ---> Heiny/Valenzuela 267pa, 77wrc+ (-6)


Really all the woes come down to 4 of our projected top 5 hitters - Vladdy Springer Kirk Barger - all completely imploding.

the rest of the lineup as hit around expectations, give or take. though we did know that we left ourselves shorthanded in infielders coming into the year and it's burned us too.

Any second half turnaround is gonna have to come from those 4 top bats hitting again.

It was Vladdy's bunt that got the offense going.

if Cease continues at this pace he'd go over 100 pitches in the 7th inning which would provoke interesting decisions over how many pitches he can go if/as/when

That's what Guerrero Jr.  can do.  18 degrees out to centrefield.  Never mind that it's in a low leverage situation, it's a very good omen.  

What a game by Cease. Just such a dominant performance. Also, some very good signs with Vlad and Springer hitting HR's.

Our best game of the year and it came at a very, very good time. I'm disappointed not to have seen a no-hitter today, but also glad that we didn't need to push Cease past 118 pitches, still one of the best all-time starts in franchise history... I think he starts the All-Star Game.

vibe shift.

Mad Max went four innings tonight for Buffalo. He struck out five, walked none...but six hits led to five runs, four earned.

Now four of the hits were ground balls, two were infield hits. One of the other two was a home run which followed three of the ground ball singles.

Feels like Max's HR rate is going to be the problem he can't solve well enough to be at least average anymore.

Popkins isn't going to get fired. (I'll admit if I eat these words.)

Atkins doesn't operate like that. Neither does Shapiro. One of the clearest messages they've sent is they value stability.

Not all POBOs would have given Atkins the leash he did. There were no rush firings after the Berrios game. Guillermo Martinez got a long leash before he was let go. Hudgens wasn't fired after he seemingly wasn't working as a hitter coordinator, he was reassigned.

If the Jays trust the process of Popkins and Iannotti, they'll stay around. Cody Atkinson is the new voice on the hitting staff, but I can't think they'll make him the scapegoat for the offensive woes.

Yeah Katie I think you're right.

Jays fired Montoyo in July 2022, with the team having a winning record so Popkins dismissal would not be unprecedented.
The Twins released Popkins in 2024. No official word why, but believed to be the team having long stretches of offensive ineptitude. Survived it in 2023, but cratered the end of the 2024 season. We've been in the same boat this year.

We also have a $500 million commitment that has been in a prolonged slump. At some point, someone has to get him righted.

All that said, yes, the Jays are not known for kneejerk reactions and Popkins' job is probably much safer than I believed. Still not sure it should be though.

Plausible Best Lineup Using....


This Year's Stats Only:

1. RF Lukes 210pa, .343obp, 110wrc+, 3.1war650
2. 3B Okamoto 369pa, .314obp, 116wrc+, 3.5war650
3. LF Sanchez 234pa, .316obp, 108wrc+, 0.3war650
4. 2B Clement 359pa, .318obp, 107wrc+, 1.8war650
5. C Valenzuela 180pa, .324obp, 107wrc+, 5.8war650
6. CF Varsho 296pa, .314obp, 99wrc+, 2.6war650
7. 1B Guerrero 373pa, .343obp, 96wrc+, 1.4war650
8. DH Springer 284pa, .310obp, 96wrc+, 0.5war650
9. SS Gimenez 306pa, .280obp, 79wrc+, 3.2war650

B. UT Pinango 160pa, .313obp, 103wrc+, 0.0war650
B. OF Straw 158pa, .288obp, 75wrc+, 0.8war650
B. IF Schneider 118pa, .282obp, 68wrc+, -2.2war650
B. C Alejandro 90pa, .256obp, 52wrc+, 1.4war650

X. UT Jimenez 35pa, .343obp, 83wrc+, -1.9war650
X. OF Barger 28pa, .213obp, 1wrc+, 0.0war650
X. IF Urias 22pa, .409obp, 165wrc+, 8.9war650
X. C

X. UT Keys 29pa, .207obp, 47wrc+, -4.5war650
X. OF Clase 8pa, .250obp, 136wrc+, 8.1war650
X. IF Sosa 117pa, .207obp, 30wrc+, -4.4war650
X. IF McAdoo 25pa, .160obp, 13wrc+, -5.2war650




Past 1 Calendar Year Stats:

1. DH Springer 530pa, .371obp, 144wrc+, 4.0war650
2. 1B Guerrero 660pa, .358obp, 117wrc+, 2.7war650
3. 3B Okamoto 369pa, .314obp, 116wrc+, 3.5war650
4. CF Varsho 467pa, .313obp, 112wrc+, 3.9war650
5. 2B Schneider 261pa, .327obp, 105wrc+, 1.5war650
6. RF Lukes 449pa, .311obp, 100wrc+, 2.5war650
7. SS Clement 623pa, .303obp, 99wrc+, 2.3war650
8. C Alejandro 294pa, .310obp, 96wrc+, 4.6war650
9. LF Sanchez 455pa, .301obp, 96wrc+, 0.4war650

B. UT Pinango 160pa, .313obp, 103wrc+, 0.0war650
B. OF Straw 282pa, .313obp, 94wrc+, 3.2war650
B. IF Gimenez 437pa, .274obp, 72wrc+, 2.4war650
B. C Valenzuela 180pa, .324obp, 107wrc+, 5.9war650

X. UT Sosa 387pa, .267obp, 82wrc+, 0.2war650
X. OF Barger 282pa, .270obp, 76wrc+, 0.9war650
X. IF Urias 93pa, .323obp, 82wrc+, 0.7war650
X. C MacIver 49pa, .220bp, 21wrc+, -3.3war650

X. UT Jimenez 35pa, .343ob, 83wrc+, -1.9war650
X. OF Clase 8pa, .250obp, 136wrc+, 8.1war650
X. UT Keyes 29pa, .207obp, 47wrc+, -4.5war650
X. UT Santander 12pa, .250obp, 17wrc+, -5.4war650
X. UT McAdoo 25pa, .160obp, 13wrc+, -5.2war650




Fangraphs Combined Depth Charts Projections:

1. DH Springer 209pa, .334obp, 114wrc+, 1.9war650
2. RF Lukes 182pa, .337obp, 108wrc+, 2.9war650
3. 1B Guerrero 292pa, .373obp, 137wrc+, 3.8war650
4. 3B Okamoto 265pa, .321obp, 114wrc+, 3.4war650
5. LF Sanchez 155pa, .315obp, 107wrc+, 2.1war650
6. C Alejandro 170pa, .341obp, 110wrc+, 5.7war650
7. CF Varsho 250pa, .299obp, 101wrc+, 2.9war650
8. 2B Clement 259pa, .312obp, 100wrc+, 2.8war650
9. SS Gimenez 250pa, .306obp, 91wrc+, 3.1war650

B. UT Barger 116pa, .313obp, 106wrc+, 2.2war650
B. OF Straw 54pa, .297obp, 75wrc+, 1.2war650
B. IF Schneider 24pa, .328obp, 103wrc+, 2.7war650
B. C Valenzuela 118pa, .287obp, 79wrc+, 2.2war650

X. UT Sosa 63pa, .276ibp, 84wrc+, 1.0war650
X. OF Clase 57pa, .292obp, 82wrc+, 1.1war650
X. IF Urias 42pa, .326obp, 100wrc+, 1.5war650
X. C MacIver 3pa, .284obp, 74wrc+, 0.0war650

X. UT Santander 14pa, .310obp, 106wrc+, 0.0war650
X. UT Pinango 42pa, .298obp, 87wrc+, 0.0war650
X. UT Keys 80pa, .294obp, 85wrc+, 0.0war650
X. OF Schreck 3pa, .320obp, 93wrc+, 0.0war650
X. IF McAdoo 9pa, .290obp, 84wrc+, 0.0war650

I agree, they won't fire anyone until the off-season at the very least. There's been long stretches where the starting pitching was bad on Pete Walker's watch, and they've stuck with him for over a decade. As was pointed out, Schnieder has survived some big time scrutiny the last few years.

Whether we like to admit it or not, you have to look at how other teams are doing. The truth is, there's only one or two teams that are clearly better than the 2026 Toronto Blue Jays right now, and one of them (the Yankees) have been awful the last month while their best hitter is injured. For how dreary it looked after Monday's game, I still probably wouldn't take the White Sox roster over the fully healthy Jays roster, for instance. I also think if the team can get to .500 by the trade deadline, we will see a big add or two that would put them as the favorites to snag a wildcard spot down the stretch, and thus, putting them in a position to challenge the Yankees and Rays in the postseason.

Tommy Nance to the Twins? Reports say.

31 yo 3B, Ryan Sprock, currently in high A, is the return for Nance.

21 yo, phone keyboard too small.

Sprocket was just promoted to high A last week.

Phone again...Sprock. Sprock was the FSL player of the month for June.

If he makes it to the majors we could have Kirk and Sprock. Must have been the clincher on the Jays decision to acquire him.

Feels like a hint towards selling, but given Nance is 34 and exclusively low leverage, it's not too worrying yet.

And the value is there for sure. Sprock isn't a scouting darling but the numbers are all there.

Feels like a Yan Gomes type.

I guess Dallas stays as the long man and Miles is the unofficial fifth starter.

Fish would be back from bereavement, although I don't see how they had time for actual funerals.

FG June 12:
Sprock is a compact, multi-positional prospect with quick hands and a punchy, line drive swing.
A young-for-the-class prospect, the Twins began toying with a catcher conversion for Sprock late last summer, something they’ve leaned into this season. It’s working. Sprock has pretty quickly become a good receiver, ball-blocker, and thrower while still playing some corner infield and left field. His current trajectory suggests that catcher will be his best defensive position very soon. Though he’s not likely to make much impact at the plate, Sprock’s short, punchy line drive swing generates enough contact that he’s an interesting offensive prospect for a catcher.

Hopefully the Jays PD can add power like they have done with a number of others.

As a catcher, power is not that important.
Blocking, receiving, game calling. 

SP1 Cease
SP2 Yesavage
SP3 Gausman
SP4 Bieber
SP5 Scherzer

RP1 Varland
RP2 Rogers
RP3 Hoffman
RP4 Fluharty
RP5 Fisher
RP6 Miles
RP7 Corbin
RP8 Macko (Mantiply/etc.)


I also think Nolan Perry may very much be in play soon.

Nolan Perry definitely will be on play soon, just my opinion. Brandon V, Jake Bloss and Addison Barger will be available for trade, again just my opinion.

So Sprock is someone we wanted? Seems we also gave up some international bonus pool money on top of sending Nance out to the North Stars.. er, Twins..