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This is kind of silly, but I can't resist. Sorry.

An old joke: someone (I forget who) used to do a spoof of a sportscast by saying: "And tonight's baseball scores: 4-1, 3-2, 6-0, and 7-2."

In that spirit, here are the final scores of all 162 Blue Jays games this year. That's all. You want to know who they were playing? You want to know who won? Sorry.

I will tell you only how many times this score appeared, and what their record was.

Final Score	W	L
1-0		0	3
2-0		1	1
2-1		4	0
3-0		0	4
3-1		2	1
3-2		3	6
4-0		1	1
4-1		3	3
4-2		1	2
4-3		6	5
5-0		1	2
5-1		1	1
5-2		5	4
5-3		0	5
5-4		0	6
6-1		3	0
6-2		4	3
6-3		2	2
6-4		3	2
6-5		1	6
7-0		1	3
7-1		0	1
7-2		4	1
7-3		1	0
7-4		3	0
7-5		3	1
7-6		1	2
8-0		3	0
8-1		1	0
8-2 		1	0
8-4		0	1
8-5		1	1
8-6		1	0
9-2		0	1
9-3		1	1
9-4		2	0
9-5		3	2
9-6		1	0
9-7		1	0
9-8		0	2
10-1		1	0
10-3		2	0
10-7		0	2
11-2		1	1
11-6		1	0
11-10		0	1
12-0		1	0
12-3		1	0
12-4		0	1
12-5		1	0
12-7		0	1
12-9		1	0
12-10		1	1
13-5		0	1
15-2		1	0
17-6		0	1

TOTAL		80	82
I think this is just full of weird and goofy stuff. The Blue Jays didn't win a single game by a 5-3 score? And they lost five of them? What's up with that?

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Mike D - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 12:31 PM EDT (#129672) #
I love how the team had a .500 record in 12-10 games.
Rob - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#129673) #
My guess is the baseball scores joke was either SNL's Weekend Update or WKRP.

It's not just the 5-3 games -- check out the 5-4 games. And clearly, for this team to make the playoffs, they have to score 7 and allow between 1 and 5.
DrJohnEvans - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#129674) #
0-3 in 1-0 games but 4-0 in 2-1 games? I'm going back to bed.
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:07 PM EDT (#129678) #
I remember that TV scene -- it was Ted Baxter claiming he could do sports just as well as news on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," or maybe it was someone filling in for a sick Ted as he looked on in horror. Anyway, it was definitely MTM.
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:12 PM EDT (#129679) #
So the team was 5-4 in 5-2 games but 0-11 in 5-3 and 5-4 games??
John Northey - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#129681) #
Fun to look at. I put it into a new table.

Scored 	W	L
0	0	14
1	0	6
2	5	18
3	5	13
4	11	10
5	7	11
6	13	3
7	13	3
8	7	2
9	8	0
10	3	2
11	2	0
12	5	0
13	0	0
14	0	0
15	1	0
16	0	0
17	0	0

Allow	W	L
0	8	0
1	15	3
2	20	1
3	13	11
4	8	11
5	9	18
6	4	13
7	1	8
8	0	2
9	1	6
10	1	2
11	0	2
12	0	3
13	0	1
14	0	0
15	0	0
16	0	0
17	0	1
So, if the Jays allowed more than 3 runs they would lose more often than not, if the scored 6 or more they would win more often than not.

Put into smaller terms (3 run groupings with 0 and 10+ in their own categories)....

Scored	W	L	%
0	0	14	.000
1-3	10	37	.213
4-6	31	24	.564
7-9	28	5	.848
10+	11	2	.846

Allowed	W	L	%
0	8	0	1.00
1-3	48	15	.762
4-6	21	42	.333
7-9	2	16	.111
10+	1	9	.100

Boy the Jays sucked with under 4 runs. In all these groups the opponents did better than the Jays, which seems odd for a team at 500. IE: with 10+ allowed the Jays were winning 85% of the time while their opponents would win 90% of the time when scoring 10+. Statistical fluke or could there be something here. Don't know. The Jays did get more shutouts than they allowed though which is good.

Craig B - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:30 PM EDT (#129682) #
In all these groups the opponents did better than the Jays, which seems odd for a team at 500.

Not really - that's the Jays' poor Pythagorean record manifesting itself. Whether a team was good or bad, you'd expect them to do as well as their opponents at particular scoring/allowing totals - but a team with a bad Pythagorean record will underperform their opponents at the same level.

One interesting thing - note how often the Jays scored 7+ runs - and how little their opponents did.

Jordan - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:40 PM EDT (#129684) #
They need to improve that 0-14 record when they score zero runs. Looks to me like a team that just doesn't know how to win....
Mike D - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#129685) #
More random data:

Record in games I attended: 3-4 (1-2 home, 2-2 away)

Record in games where I purchased tickets for others (as a birthday present, Father's Day present or as a prize for a Batter's Box limerick contest): 3-0
DoomService - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#129686) #
What jumps out at me is the 15-31 record (I think) in one-run games, particularly when its 13-14 in games that were 4-3 or lower, and a somewhat astonishing 2-17 in games that were 5-4 and higher. That's an incredibly unlucky result, I think, in high-scoring one-run gmes.

Looking at blowouts (which I define as a margin of 5 runs or better) the Jays were 26-14. This was one incredibly inefficient team.
Mike D - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 01:56 PM EDT (#129687) #
The Jays were 20-8 in DoomService blowouts before the Tigers series.
Mike Green - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#129689) #
Getting shut-out much more often than one's opponents, as well as scoring 7+ runs more often is a symptom of having a long-sequence offence with pretty good pitching.

The team's poor record when allowing 4-6 runs (typical would have been 27 wins or so, rather than 21, out of the 63 games) is significant.
Mike D - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#129691) #
For what it's worth, here are the 19 games identified by DoomService in his 2-17 "high-scoring one-run" subset.

The amazing thing is not that the Jays lost 17 games this way...it's that they *didn't* win more than *two* ballgames in this manner.

Apr 8 Red Sox 6, Jays 5: Comeback falls short.
Apr 17 Rangers 6, Jays 5: Comeback falls short.
May 8 White Sox 5, Jays 4: Comeback falls short.
July 8 Rangers 6, Jays 5: Bullpen blows lead after Doc's injury.
July 10 Rangers 9, Jays 8: Comeback falls short.
July 16 Devil Rays 6, Jays 5: Comeback falls short.
July 17 Devil Rays 5, Jays 4: Bullpen blows lead.
July 24 Royals 6, Jays 5: Comeback falls short.
Aug 4 White Sox 5, Jays 4: Sox break tie in 8th after Jays come back.
Aug 8 Tigers 9, Jays 8: Bullpen blows lead in see-saw game; Tigers win in extras.
Aug 14 Jays 7, Orioles 6: O's comeback falls short.
Aug 15 Angels 5, Jays 4: Bullpen blows lead in tight game; Angels win in extras.
Aug 23 Yankees 5, Jays 4: Bullpen blows three leads.
Sep 11 Devil Rays 6, Jays 5: Bullpen blows lead.
Sep 12 Red Sox 6, Jays 5: Jays come back, but Sox win in extras.
Sep 16 Yankees 11, Jays 10: Comeback falls short.
Sep 18 Jays 6, Yankees 5: Yanks' comeback falls short.
Sep 29 Red Sox 5, Jays 4: Bullpen blows lead.
Oct 1 Royals 7, Jays 6: Jays come back, but then blow lead.
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 02:20 PM EDT (#129692) #
Well, then, it is clear to me that, as so many Buaxites have postulated all throughout the year, this is obviously all Eric Hinske's fault.
Shortstop - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 02:33 PM EDT (#129696) #
Wow! The Jays have never won a game when they scored 0 runs. I love stats.

Great chart guys. Fun to look at. If you win 5 of those 1 run games and Halladay and Lilly stick around for the season, that would have been the Jays losing 14-2 to the White Sox in Game 1. Assuming Clement also signed with the Jays.
AWeb - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 03:49 PM EDT (#129703) #
July was a perfect example of the Jays season. By my quick eyeballing of the results, they went 13-12, scoring 153 runs (6.12/game), giving up 114 (4.56/game). Pythagorus predicts a record of 16-9. Included in this stretch were, from my recollection, the worst two series of the year, against Texas (losses of 7-6, 12-10, 9-8, and a Cy Young candidate), then losing 3 of 4 to the Devil Rays after the all-star break. And through this, Chacin managed to go 5-0.

Lost 12 games in July by a total of 21 runs.
Won 13 games in July by a total of 60 runs.

As mentioned above, "inefficient" is a good way to describe this season.
Lucas - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#129708) #
Another team:

Rangers record when scoring exactly seven runs: 19-1 (.950)
Rangers record when scoring exactly eight runs: 9-6 (.600)
studes - Wednesday, October 05 2005 @ 07:04 PM EDT (#129723) #
Originally, the joke was George Carlin's. It was part of his newscast routine, which included Al, the Hippy Dippy Weather Man ("It's 70 degrees at the airport, which is really stupid, because no one lives near the airport, man").

For the sportscaster, he also threw in, "and this partial score, 5."
mathesond - Thursday, October 06 2005 @ 12:02 AM EDT (#129729) #
Wow! The Jays have never won a game when they scored 0 runs. I love stats.

Reminds me of the University of Maryland including this stat in their (football) press guide a few years ago: "The Terrapins are undefeated when outscoring their opponents"
R Billie - Thursday, October 06 2005 @ 07:21 PM EDT (#129775) #
The Jays have to shorten their long-sequence offence. The easiest way to do that is to add power (without sacrificing OBP). Preferably adding both power and OBP.
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