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I just posted a piece where I suggested that Walt Jocketty trading Danny Haren and Daric Barton for Mark Mulder looks like one of the worst transactions perpetrated by a current general manager.

What are the other contenders?

The first one that springs to mind, of course, is Brian Sabean's ill-fated dealing of Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano, and Boof Bonser in exchange for one year of A.J. Pierzynski. It's already a disaster, and has a chance to look even worse down the road.

Texas sending Chris Young, Adrian Gonzalez, and Termel Sledge to San Diego for Akinori Otsuka and Billy Killian isn't looking too great either.

Help me, out Bauxites! Let's find a stinker for everyone! I'll be shocked and astonished if we're unable to find: a) a terrible trade; b) a terrible draft pick; c) a terrible free agent signing for each of the 30 GMs currently employed.

It's a tough gig.

Hindsight is 20/20, and it's always easy to take the test after you know the answer. But I'm sick as a dog (which is why I'm at home instead of work), I'm cranky, and I'm in the mood to be totally unfair, and to make fun of other people.


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Thomas - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 07:51 AM EDT (#173883) #

Texas also received Adam Eaton in the Adrian Gonzalez/Chris Young deal. Not that he makes the return that much better for the Rangers, since he threw 65 innings and immediately left as a free agent. I think you've nailed the big three in your article. Those are all awful trades. The other ones that come to mind are merely bad or were defendable at the time (although the Mulder one was defendable and wouldn't look so bad if not for injury).

In terms of net loss, another bad one that immediately springs to mind is Minaya dealing Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips for Colon. I can understand why he did it, but I always thought it was more likely Montreal would be moved than contracted, so I was shocked to seem them mortgage their future like that for one playoff push.

Squiggy - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 08:18 AM EDT (#173884) #
Here are two: Dave Littlefield of the Pirates, an awful GM by most estimations (acquired Matt Morris this year was truly bizarre), perhaps made his worst trade ever when he sent Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton to the Cubs for journeyman Jose Hernandez, and RHP Mike Bruback and 2B Bobby Hill.

Larry Beinfest of the Marlins, who I consider to be a good GM, truly messed up when he sent Derrek Lee to the Cubs for Hee Seop Choi adn Mike Nannini.

Note that by coincidence the Cubs are beneficiaries of both - I know Jim Hendry has pulled off a stinker or two himself, but I will let somebody else handle that one.

Kieran - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 08:37 AM EDT (#173885) #
If we're talking about our hometown boys, Loiaza for Michael Young was one I'd like back.
Parker - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 08:49 AM EDT (#173886) #
Still on the subject of hometown boys, I wouldn't mind getting David Wells back in exchange for Mike "Shouldergate" Sirotka.
Dave Till - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 08:54 AM EDT (#173887) #
I was just about to mention Wells for Sirotka too - the trade that cost Gord Ash his job.

Joey Hamilton for Woody Williams and etc. probably ranks up there - this is the trade that ensured that Dave Stewart would never become a GM.

Going way back: Alan Ashby for Mark Lemongello was an awful trade for the Jays.

Going the other way: Accardo for Chulk and Hillenbrand was not one of the Giants' shining moments.

AWeb - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 09:26 AM EDT (#173888) #

The Yankees have one of the worst top picks ever in Brien Taylor, and recent free agent signings like Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa, Kyle Farnsworth, Roger Clemens (2007) and Jaret Wright certainly haven't worked out. Pitching : it's hard to buy or draft.

paulf - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 09:35 AM EDT (#173889) #
You guys have to read closer. We're looking for stinkers from the 30 current GMs. Within the division I nominate:

JP: Izzy/Quantrill for Prokopec/Ricketts, or the Adams draft (in both cases due to the other options available).
Flanagan: Maine/Julio for Benson
Cashman: Pavano
Epstein: Hasn't made many mistakes, but he screwed up with the whole Mirabelli thing.
Friedman: Hasn't really done anything in 2 years. His are crimes of omission.
Magpie - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 09:53 AM EDT (#173891) #
Terry Ryan of the Twins was the architect of the trade that brought in Nathan and Liriano. But it's possible he regrets giving David Ortiz his unconditional release.
AWeb - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#173893) #

Epstein : J.D. Drew. Yes it's early and Drew has never been this bad before, but that much money for a below average Right fielder? The Gagne trade could turn out to be a low point for him, with Gabbard already providing decent major league results.

Terry Ryan : his strange passion for terrible veteran signings: Batista, Ponson, Rondell White, Ramon Ortiz,  and throw in letting Nick Punto stay on the team this year (.197/.285/.253) in a starting role without releasing or demoting him.

Jordan - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 10:43 AM EDT (#173894) #
Ned Coletti's belief that Juan Pierre and his career 84 OPS+ are worth $45,000,000.
James W - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 10:52 AM EDT (#173895) #

I've been fond of Pittsburgh getting Jason Bay and (one brilliant season of) Oliver Perez  in exchange for Brian Giles.  But while Giles power seems mostly gone, he's still been an OBP machine with the Padres.  I'm guessing Bay would never have put up the numbers he has if he'd been stuck in Petco Park, either.

paulf - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 10:58 AM EDT (#173896) #
The Giles trade has worked out well for both sides. The biggest mistakes Kevin Towers has made are claiming Randy Myers or drafting Matt Bush.
Mike Green - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 11:05 AM EDT (#173898) #
How about the worst moves of the best GMs, Beane, Schuerholz, Dombrowski and Shapiro?

I'll try Dombrowski and Shapiro.  Dombrowski's 1989 trade of Randy Johnson and others for Mark Langston was well-intentioned, but probably cost the Expos the 1993 division title (and might have set up a classic World Series matchup). His signing of Troy Percival for $5 million was pretty silly.  As for Shapiro, it's tough.  Perhaps his difficulty in assembling a bullpen, with Joe Borowski as one example.  It doesn't seem so bad right now, but it's going to cost them in October.

jeff mcl - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#173901) #
I think Dombrowski will end up regretting the Sheffield trade very soon.  The Tigers went from having all the great young pitching in the world to one of the 9th ranked ERA in AL in very short order.  That move might've been the one that prevents them from becoming a dynasty.
paulf - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#173902) #
Beane: Having nothing to show for Tim Hudson (what the heck happened to Dan Meyer anyways?). Ethier for Bradley also looks pretty bad right now.
Glevin - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 12:06 PM EDT (#173904) #

"How about the worst moves of the best GMs, Beane, Schuerholz, Dombrowski and Shapiro?"

I wouldn't have Dombrowski as one of the best GMs. He drafts well and makes some decent trades, but also makes some insane free agency signings. (Percival and Vina turned out horribly, but even his great signings-Pudge and Ordonez were incredibly risky-26 million a year for guys who were very injury prone and were very likely to be declining anyway... they just happened to turn out very well for him.)  

"In terms of net loss, another bad one that immediately springs to mind is Minaya dealing Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips for Colon"

That's the worst one! What makes it even worse is that six months later, they dealt Colon for Rocky Biddle, Jeff Liefer, and El Duque. El Duque didn't pitch an inning with them. So, the trade became:

Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips, and Cliff Lee for half a year of Colon, Rocky Biddle, and Jeff Liefer. I don't see how it can get much worse than that. It could end up up to be one of the worst trades in baseball history. (Although Texas combining to trade Chris Young, Travis Hafner, Adrian Gonzalez and Termell Sledge for Einer Diaz, one year of Adam Eaton, Otsuka, and a prospect is just an atrocious couple of moves.) 

Pistol - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 12:31 PM EDT (#173906) #
what the heck happened to Dan Meyer anyways?

He's apparently over his injury troubles, pitching for Oakland right now, and was pretty good in the PCL this year.
Mike Green - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#173908) #
I missed Meyer's return.  It just goes to show that you never know with pitchers.  Meyer may very well end up having much more value per dollar than Hudson, and conceivably end up having more value period.
Squiggy - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#173911) #
Beane: Having nothing to show for Tim Hudson (what the heck happened to Dan Meyer anyways?). Ethier for Bradley also looks pretty bad right now.

Also, that convoluted 3-way trade that wound up with Beane sending away both Carlos Pena and Jeremy Bonderman and receiving Ted Lilly, John Ford-Griffin and Jason Arnold. We know that those latter 3 wound up with our own Blue Jays for assorted odds and sods, but in the end Beane did not get much out of those two at all.

Both were highly regarded prospects at the time, though Pena's recent success is surprising, given how many previous opportunities he's had.

MatO - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#173913) #
In April of 95 Ash got David Cone from KC for David Sinnes, Anthony Medrano and Chris Stynes (who became a decent utility player) and then traded Cone 3 months later near the deadline in 95 to the Yankees for Marty Janzen,  Jason Jarvis and Mike Gordon.  When the best player in 2 deals is Chris Stynes then they're pretty bad.  I think after this Ash was gun shy in getting prospects in return on trades and was always looking for "proven players" instead.
Magpie - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 02:01 PM EDT (#173915) #
For the most part, I think I'd be afraid to do business with John Schuerholz.  But he has, on occasion, given up more talent than he's received in return. Usually, what he got back was something that helped him that year (Denny Neagle) as opposed to sometime down the road (Jason Schmidt.). Likwise, in exchange for Jermaine Dye, he got two guys who played more or less regularly (Keith Lockhart and Michael Tucker) on a first place team.

It's possible that his worst trade in Atlanta was when he sent Mike Stanton to Boston for two guys who never did play in the majors.

Mike Green - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 02:15 PM EDT (#173916) #
With 20-20 hindsight, Schuerholz's trade of Klesko/Bret Boone to San Diego in 1999 for Joyner/Veras/Sanders was pretty one-sided from a talent perspective anyway. 
Magpie - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 02:35 PM EDT (#173917) #
Klesko/Bret Boone to San Diego in 1999 for Joyner/Veras/Sanders

That could have worked out better, although I don't think anyone could have foreseen what would happen to Bret Boone in Seattle. At the time, Veras was two years younger and looked just as good. (What happened to him, anyway?).

Klesko spent most of his Atlanta career in left field because of Fred McGriff and then Andres Galarraga. He got his chance to play some first in 1999, when the Big Cat was sick - and I don't know? Maybe Cox didn't like what he saw?  Galarraga was 39 years old and had just missed an entire season with cancer. So they trade Klesko for a backup firstbaseman, a left fielder one year from free agency - along with the exchange of second basemen.

Sanders didn't do much in Atlanta, but Veras and Joyner were both very good in limited action. And they finished first, as usual.
Mike Green - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#173922) #
But, like Beane, Schuerholz' Scheie doesn't work so well in the playoffs either!
Mark - Wednesday, September 05 2007 @ 09:18 PM EDT (#173939) #
The Soriano trade was pretty lousy for Jon Daniels. To go along with the Eaton/Young trade he has not been so hot. He better hope Salty pans out or he might out of a job soon.

I wouldn't really include Pena in judging the Bonderman/Lilly trade, the guy wasn't good for years and changed teams a few times before lighting it up this year.

Mark Shapiro getting Hafner for Einar Diaz was a steal.

And Epstein is not without fault either, the whole signing Renteria for 4/40, trading him for Marte and paying half his salary, flipping Marte for Coco Crisp and then signing Lugo for 4/40. Both Lugo and Coco have been pretty bad.
paulf - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 12:17 AM EDT (#173945) #
I forgot about Renteria! Good one Mark. I'm changing my answer... Theo's biggest mistake was letting Cabrera walk to Anaheim. They're still recovering... Renteria, Marte, Crisp, Shoppach, Mota, Bard, Mirabelli, Meredith, Loretta, Lugo.... that's a chain of events that would have played out a lot differently.
Pistol - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 12:32 AM EDT (#173946) #
And Epstein is not without fault either, the whole signing Renteria for 4/40, trading him for Marte and paying half his salary, flipping Marte for Coco Crisp and then signing Lugo for 4/40. Both Lugo and Coco have been pretty bad.

And the worst move was probably Arroyo for Pena. 
scottt - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 12:32 AM EDT (#173947) #
Minaya trading Kazmir for Zambrano just because they had an outside chance at the wild card and didn't think Kazmir was ready. The Mets have been struggling to find starting pitching ever since.

Bill Stoneman for his inability to add a bat to his lineup while sitting on a very overrated farm system.
Magpie - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 08:49 AM EDT (#173950) #
Minaya trading Kazmir for Zambrano

That wasn't Minaya, it was his predecessor Jim Duquette.

Minaya, improbably enough, has actually cobbled together a fine starting rotation out of two 40 year olds (Glavine and El Duque), plus John Maine (obtained from Baltimore for Kris Benson) and Oliver Perez (picked up off the scrap heap.) I wouldn't have believed it myself, but they've all been good. And Jorge Sosa did an adequate job as the fifth starter.

And Mike Pelfrey has an excellent chance to be really good, and Pedro Martinez is back.
Mike Green - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 11:19 AM EDT (#173955) #
There are times when you know something is wrong.  BP's Playoff Odds report lists the Red Sox as having a 99.97% chance of making the playoffs. 

The problem is that BP treats all remaining games as independent events, and attributes winning percentages in accordance with play to date.  That's not the way it is.  Multiple key injuries are possible and make the possibility of a slide much, much more than 3 in 10,000.  The Red Sox must win somewhere between 5-9 times of their remaining 23 games to ensure themselves a playoff spot.  They are, of course, very likely to do so, but if Varitek and Papelbon, say, were injured, the club could very well fail to do so.  The chances of this happening are not insignficant.  We remember the injuries to Whitt and Fernandez in September 1987 all too well.

Flex - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 02:44 PM EDT (#173970) #
For lack of an obvious alternative I'll post this here.

Jon Heyman has a good piece on under-the-radar contributors this season on SI.com
But how in the world did he forget about Matt Stairs?

Slim Jim - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#173974) #

I don't think Jim Duquette was the GM, wasn't it Steve Phillips? I believe Jim Duquette may have worked under Phillips, but I may be mistaken here.

I'm not as sold on Pelfrey. He has a great arm but the question has always been about his ability to gets swings and misses with a breaking ball. From what little I've seen and based on the numbers he's put up I'm not sure there's been much progression. He may still become really good, but I think the window is closing somewhat.

Magpie - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#173977) #
I don't think Jim Duquette was the GM, wasn't it Steve Phillips?

I believe Duquette was only the acting GM, but the Mets fired Phillips in June 2003. The Kazmir trade was at the deadline in 2004, and Minaya was hired that September.
guerinto - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 06:27 PM EDT (#173982) #

Ricciardi's drafts:

2002 - Russ Adams at 14th overall.  Mets take Kazmir at 15, A's take Swisher at 16 and Phillies take Cole Hamels at 17.  Presumably Adams was drafted for safety and signability, but what a classic example of penny wise and pound foolish.  For a few hundred thousand more, we could have had a really good player.  Imagine a rotation of Halladay, Burnett, Marcum, McGowan and Kazmir or Hamels.  WOW!  Swisher would be pretty nice in LF had we picked him.  Hopefully JP would not have traded Kazmir for Zambrano like Jim Duquette was stupid enough to do!

2005 - My personl favorite, Ricky Romero with 6th pick!!!  All the experts had us taking Tulowitski - all J.P. had to do was listen, but nooooooo.  He takes another lower risk, low ceiling type pitcher.  If they televised the MLB draft like the NBA one, I'm sure the crowd reaction would have been similar to when the Raptors overpicked Arraujo.  Oh yes, some players picked after Romero?  Troy Tulowitski at #7 by Colorado, Cameron Maybin a #10 by Detroit and Jay Bruce at #12 by Cincinnati.

There are others, but I am trying to limit myself to players picked right around Adams and Romero.  The Jays had a good 2007 draft in my opinion, but I doubt J.P. will be around when/if Arecibia, Ahrens or Cecil, Tolisano make the majors.

J.P's drafts overall, have been horrible.  2004 produced Adam Lind and Casey Janssen and 2003 produced Aaron Hill and Shaun Marcum.  That is the sum of any significant home grown talent on the Jays' 40 man roster at the moment, although I believe Travis Snider will be a stud once promoted.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 and these players still have many years to analyze before judgement coan be considered final, but drafting Adams and Romero seem like fantasticly horrible blunders.

ANationalAcrobat - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 06:40 PM EDT (#173983) #
"J.P's drafts overall, have been horrible."
That's absurd.
guerinto - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#173985) #

"That's absurd."

How can you say that my comment around J.Ps drafts being horrible is absurd?  Have you done any research, or are you going off intuition?

 

Here are the players drafted during his tenure that have made the majors.  He has seen 15 of his picks from 2002 to 2004 promoted to the majors and none from his 2005 or 2006 drafts.  Ill leave the 2007 draft out for now as it is far too soon to evaluate it for major league readiness.  It does look promising though.

 

Of the 15 players listed below, only David Bush, Aaron Hill, Shaun Marcum, Adam Lind, Casey Janssen and Jesse Litsch look like they will stick around and be average to above average major leaguers.  With Bush and Litsch, Im likely being too generous as they both compare favorably (unfavorably?) to Josh Towers

 

2002

Russ Adams 1st round, 14th overall

*David Bush 2nd round, 55th overall

**Adam Peterson 4th round, 116th overall

Jordan DeJong 18th round, 536th overall

 

2003

Aaron Hill 1st round, 13th overall

Josh Banks 2nd round, 50th overall

Shaun Marcum 3rd round, 80th overall

Jamie Vermilyea 9th round, 260th overall

***Tom Mastny 11th round, 320th overall

Ryan Roberts 18th round, 530th overall

 

2004

*Zach Jackson 1st round, 32nd overall

Curtis Thigpen 2nd round, 57th overall

Adam Lind 3rd round, 83rd overall

Casey Janssen 4th round, 117th overall

Jessie Litsch 24th round, 717th overall

 

*Part of trade to land Lyle Overbay

**Traded for Shea Hillenbrand

***Traded for John MacDonald

 

As for players drafted in 2002-2006 that have not been promoted to the majors yet, here are their organizational rankings in the 2007 Baseball America Prospect Handbook

 

2002

Nobody from this draft that has not already made the majors ranks top 30, so it is safe to say this draft was a total waste of time and money!

 

2003

Nobody from this draft that has not already made the majors ranks top 30, but we likely have two pretty decent players in Aaron Hill and Shaun Marcum. 

 

Hills career OPS+ is 90 and his top comparable through age 24 was Ken Oberkfell.  I think that is harsh, but Im not prepared to accept Hill will be a star just yet.

 

Marcum is having a breakthrough year, but Id like to see him do it again before I consider him a strong #3 or #2 type pitcher.  He already seems to be running into a wall, but in his defense, he is 9.1 innings short of his career high of 157 established in 2005 between Syracuse and New Hampshire.

 

 

2004

David Purcey 1st round, 16th overall.  He ranks 9th in the organization and his 2007 season has been a disaster.  Still walks too many and will likely slip in the 2008 guide,

 

Ryan Klosterman 5th round, 147th overall.  He ranks 14th in the organization and 2007 was also a disaster as evidenced by his .584 OPS at AA New Hampshire.  I bet he will not be top 30 next year.

 

Chip Cannon 8th round, 237th overall.  He also regressed in a repeat year at AA New Hampshire.  Hes still an above average offensive player, but his all or nothing stats at age 26 in AA ball does not bode well for his future.  I suspect he will fall out of the top 30 as well.

 

Kyle Yates 13th round, 387th overall.  He ranks 15th in the organization and he too regressed statistically in 2007, although not the freefall experienced by Purcey and Klosterman.  At least Purcey could blame injuries!

 

 

2005

Ricky Romero 1st round, 6th overall.  He ranks 3rd in the organization.  Was 3-6 with a 4.91 ERA and a 1.69 WHIP at AA New Hampshire.  This is arguably the worst top 10 pick in 2005.

Brian Pettway 3rd round, 86th overall.  He ranks 22nd in the organization.  Posted a .796 OPS in a repeat year at A Lansing.  Compares well against league OPS, but a 24 year old at A ball does not get me excited.  I see a 4th outfielder at best.

Ryan Patterson 4th round, 116th overall.  He ranks 4th in the organization.  Posted a .754 OPS in 441 at-bats at AA New Hampshire as compared to a .749 OPS in 187 at-bats at the end of 2006 at AA New Hampshire.  Not sure what to make of this guy, especially since he missed some time to injury.  His 2008 season is likely make or break.

Eric Fowler 5th round, 146th overall.  He ranks 11th in the organization.  Went 4-4 with a 7.20 ERA, 2.03 WHIP and an 21/18 K to BB ratio.  All dismal numbers does not look like hell be appearing in the Rogers Centre without a ticket stub.  Hell likely repeat AA at age 25.  Baseball America had him profiled as a back end starter or middle reliever before his 2007 bomb of a season.

Paul Phillips 9th round, 266th overall.  He ranks 21st in the organization.  Went 4-1 as a reliever for A+ Dunedin, with a 6.33 ERA, 1.48 WHIP and a 25/10 K to BB ratio.  Pitched well at Lansing, but struggled at Dunedin.  Throws hard and projected as a 1st or 2nd round pick as an amateur before missing 2003 and 2004 due to labrun surgery.

Anthony Hatch 13th round, 386th overall.  He ranks 17th in the organization.  Posted a .723 OPS at A+ Dunedin, which is slightly above league average.  Seems to profile as a utility guy.

 

2006

Travis Snider 1st round, 14th overall.  He ranks 2nd in the organization and I think most Jays fans know about this guy.  Projects as a middle of the order hitter and has done nothing but pound the ball as a pro.  Posted a .902 OPS for A Lansing, which is insane in the Midwest League.  He should have been league MVP and he turns 20 in February!!! 

Brandon Magee 4th round, 120th overall.  He ranks 7th in the organization.  Went 9-8 with a 3.90 ERA, 1.37 WHIP and a 76/54 K/BB ratio for A+ Dunedin.  Another guy who is a little old for his league.  Another guy who likely projects as a #3 starter at best and more likely a back end guy or middle reliever.

Brian Jeroloman 6th round, 180th overall.  He ranks 30th in the organization.  Solid defensive catcher, drew 85 walks and had a .759 OPS thanks to all those walks.  Guys who dont hit for average or power but have high walk rates are virtually guaranteed to be unable to replicate that in the majors see Russ Adams for reference.  Backup catcher perhaps?

Chase Lirette 16th round, 480th overall.  He ranks 29th in the organization and posted a 5-5 record with a 4.42 ERA, 1.32 WHIP and a 41/19 K/BB ratio for A Lansing.

Kyle Ginley 17th round, 510th overall.  He ranks 19th in the organization and posted a 7-6 record with a 4.72 ERA, 1.50 WHIP and a 129/41 K/BB ratio for A Lansing.  Not exciting me here either!

Graham Godfrey 34th round, 1,020th overall.  He ranks 18th in the organization and posted a 6-7 record with a 3.97 ERA, 1.51 WHIP and a 74/36 K/BB ratio for A Lansing.  The 2007 season was his first as a pro and he is 22 already.  Throws hard and Im curious to see what he does next season.

 

To sum up, I look at our depth and I really do not see how our drafts can be evaluated as anything other than about a C- or a D.

 

Since 2002, our minor league talent rankings have gone as follows:

2002 13th

2003 6th

2004 8th

2005 15th

2006 25th

 

As the talent left behind by the Gord Ash administration made the majors or fizzled out, the J.P. Ricciardi drafts replaced them and the results speak for themselves in my opinion.

 

I dont feel like doing this for the other A.L. East teams, but a quick scan tells me that New York, Boston and Tampa Bay have all done a much better job of acquiring talent, even if we exclude the Japanese imports.

 

Mike Green - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 09:49 PM EDT (#173988) #
I have taken a look at the 02-03 drafts, and it is still early to make much of a judgment.  For a while there, the White Sox 2002 draft which included Jeremy Reed and Brandon McCarthy was looking like the best of the lot and it still might end up that way, but no one really knows. 

Suffice it to say that the 02-04 drafts have produced Bush, Hill, Marcum, Lind, Thigpen and Janssen.  That's six players who might reasonably be significant contributors.  There are a few others who might surprise us as useful players like David Smith, Russ Adams and Adrian Martin.  That is about par for the course for 3 years, and maybe a little better.  To give a context, the Yankee drafts from 02-04 produced Brad Halsey, Eric Duncan, Tyler Clippard, T.J. Beam, Jeff Karstens and Phil Hughes.  Hughes might be the best of the lot, but he might not, and I prefer the Jays' drafts.  The Red Sox' take included Jon Lester, David Murphy, Matt Murton, Abe Alvarez, Jon Papelbon, Dustin Pedroia and Cla Meredith.  Papelbon and Pedroia have turned out very well, and I would say that the Sox have drafted very well.

Magpie - Thursday, September 06 2007 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#173992) #
For a while there, the White Sox 2002 draft... was looking like the best of the lot

Having just looked at all of the drafts over the last five years, I rather like what Atlanta did in 2002. Jeff Francoeur, Brian McCann, and Chuck James.
kinguy - Friday, September 07 2007 @ 05:55 PM EDT (#174068) #
Here's one good and bad on the same day for Dave Dombrowski.  In 1999, while with the Marlins, he shrewdly snatched Johan Santana from Houston in the Rule 5 Draft, then flipped him, with cash, to Minnesota for someone named Jared Camp.
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