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Back at it today beginning around 11:30 with the next 44 rounds, or until the Jays get tired and quit.

Yesterday the Jays took only one pitcher, Andrew Liebel, (and liked him more than my man Chris Carpenter who went a few picks later in round 3 and was also a senior) so I'd expect to see a lot of college pitchers being taken today.

Any player that makes the majors from this point on (other than signability players) is a huge success. In the Ricciardi era the best 7th round and later picks have been Tom Mastny (round 13) and Jesse Litsch (round 24).

Round 7: Eric Thames, OF, Pepperdine
6'0", 195 lbs
Bats: Left; Throws: Right
DOB: 11/10/86

2007 200 0.320 0.381 0.415
2008 182 0.407 0.513 0.769 0.86 13%

Perfect Game: (3/1) Thames is an impressive-looking athlete and led Pepperdine in RBIs a year ago—oddly, while failing to launch a single home run. His lack of raw power played a hand in last year’s draft as he wasn’t selected until the 39th round by the New York Yankees as a draft-eligible sophomore. But he enjoyed a big summer in the Northwoods League, finishing second in RBIs while being selected that league’s top prospect by PG Crosschecker. He hit only three home runs, but the Yankees were impressed enough with his bat speed and other areas of his game that they offered fifth-round money in an effort to sign him just before he returned to Pepperdine. Scouts believed a surge in power was in the offing for Thames this season. He also gets a lot of support for his foot speed (6.5 seconds in the 60). Thames spent most of last season in a DH role for Pepperdine as his play in the outfield was improving, but just adequate. His arm is his one tool that rates below average, which may relegate him to left field but there is a question whether his lack of raw power will play at that position

(5/15) Few position players in the entire draft helped themselves more this season than Thames, and his decision to reject a last-minute offer from the Yankees last summer now appears to be extremely prudent as some clubs have elevated him to potential first-round status. As predicted, Thames had a power surge and was batting a resounding .408-13-57 as Pepperdine completed regular-season play. Not only has Thames gotten stronger and matured, but he had a better approach at the plate this spring and adjusted well to all kinds of pitching. He showed a quick, compact swing with good extension, enabling him to generate excellent bat speed. He made hard, consistent contact, but occasionally chased pitches when he got overly aggressive. His arm strength, below average even by left field standards, is his only negative tool but it showed marginal improvement from the fall.

(6/1) Thames hurt his chances for the draft by tearing a quad muscle late in the season and undergoing surgery. He was expected to be out of action for 3-4 months.

A Project Prospect interview with Thames.

Round 8: Evan Crawford, LHP, Auburn

6'2", 190 lbs
DOB: 9/2/86

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2006 78.2 4.35 6.3 4.6 0.3 10.0
2007 67 5.91 5.8 4.4 0.7 11.3
2008 44.2 2.42 8.6 5.1 0.6 8.3 Crawford seems to have found the right role, pitching out of Auburn's bullpen after two ineffective years as a starter. He used a strong finish to his Cape season as a springboard and has been used as more of a setup man with Auburn. He's been able to use two good pitches to go right after hitters and should be of interest to teams looking for quality lefty relievers ... which is pretty much every team.

Perfect Game: (3/1) Crawford went 5-6, 5.91 with just 43 strikeouts in 67 innings in a starting role as a sophomore at Auburn, but may have found his calling last summer in the Cape Cod League as a closer for Harwich. He thrived in pressure situations with a game on the line. He started the season in middle relief but soon started finishing games for the Mariners, and went 1-0, 0.67 with five saves to go with 41 strikeouts in 27 innings. Opponents hit just .183 off him. Crawford’s electric stuff and makeup appear better suited for an end-of-game role. He pounded the strike zone with two pitches—an 86-90 mph fastball that peaked at 92-93, and a big-breaking, 73-76 mph curveball—and was able to junk his slider and changeup, which were below-average pitches. Auburn coaches tried for two years to make Crawford a starter but have come to the realization his comfort zone is in the bullpen and used him in that role in 2008.

(5/15) Crawford didn’t build off his impressive Cape Cod League showing last summer. He was dominating early with a fastball in the 92-93 mph range and a power breaking ball, but his velocity backed up later in the spring to 86 mph at times and his command was inconsistent from outing to outing. Though he led Auburn pitchers by a wide margin with a 1.98 ERA while striking out 40 in 41 innings, he was rarely used in a meaningful relief role. His best chance of going inside the first five probably rounds rests with a team that saw him perform at his best last summer on the Cape.

Round 9: Antonio Jimenez, C, Discipolous De Cristo HS
6'0", 185 lbs
Bats: Right; Throws: Right
DOB: 5/1/90

BA: The Blue Jays get good value in the ninth round, taking catcher Antonio Jimenez from Puerto Rico. Jimenez, who ranked as Baseball America’s No. 200 draft prospect, had a chance to go much higher were it not for an elbow injury just before the draft that cast doubts in teams’ eyes about how it would affect a player whose value is heavily dependent upon his premium defensive skills.

When healthy, Jimenez shows his athleticism behind the plate in his blocking and receiving skills, while his plus arm was also a standout tool. There are still some questions about the bat—though it’s hard to find a catcher without questions about the bat—but he does have some raw power.

Round 10: Daniel Farquhar, RHP, U Louisiana Lafayette

DOB: 2/17/87

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2006 62.1 2.17 8.0 2.9 0.3 8.1
2007 87.2 3.08 11.9 2.3 0.2 8.2
2008 76.1 4.95 9.8 2.8 1.4 9.1

Round 11: Dustin Antolin, RHP, Miliani HS (HI)

6'2", 180 lbs
DOB: 8/9/89

Article on Antolin and a nice feature on him as well.

Round 12: Matthew Wright, LHP, Shippensburg U

5'10", 170 lbs
DOB: 5/7/87

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2008 98.0
0.3 5.8

Article on Wright.

Round 13: Matthew Daly, RHP, U Hawaii
5'11", 185 lbs
DOB: 8/14/86

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2006 52.2 3.25 9.0 4.5 0.9 7.6
2007 74.2 3.38 9.7 4.0 0.2 6.4
2008 81.1 5.31 8.9 7.2 1.0 7.8

Two articles on Daly.

Round 14: Chris Holguin, RHP, Lubbock Christian U

5'11", 185 lbs
DOB: 4/25/86

Round 15: Scott Gracey, RHP, U of New Mexico

6'2", 190 lbs
DOB: 10/15/86

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2007 10.1 10.45 8.0 4.5 0.9 18.7
2008 5.2 6.35 8.7 5.2 1.7 12.1

Round 16 Michael Crouse OF Centennial SS, Coquitlam, B.C.

Round 17 Jonathan Valdez C Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Gurabo, P.R.

Round 18 Bobby Bell RHP Rice

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2005 52 2.77 8.8 2.4 0.7 6.1
2006 73.1 4.17 7.5 2.6 0.7 9.5
2007 0.2 13.50 45.0 0.0 0.0 135.0
2008 19.2 0.92 11.7 3.8 0.5 4.2

Round 19 Jason Roenicke RHP UC Santa Barbara

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2008 14.1 5.02 10.2 5.1 0.6 10.9

Round 20 Ryan Page LHP Liberty

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2005 40 3.60 5.6 3.4 0.7 10.1
2006 72.2 3.59 4.9 2.5 0.9 9.5
2007 63 4.57 6.3 1.9 0.9 11.3
2008 81.2 2.76 7.0 1.9 0.6 9.6

Round 21 Brian Van Kirk OF Oral Roberts

2006 127 0.346 0.414 0.512
2007 201 0.299 0.391 0.498 1.46 17%
2008 237 0.414 0.505 0.734 0.84 13%

Round 22 Karim Turkamani C Miami-Dade CC

Round 23 Chuck Huggins LHP UC Santa Barbara

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2007 54 5.50 7.0 7.5 1.3 7.8
2008 86 4.40 8.1 2.7 0.9 8.5

Round 24 Chris Hawkins OF Oregon State

Round 25 Brad McElroy OF Charlotte

2007 242 0.401 0.473 0.661
2008 189 0.381 0.485 0.577 0.51 9%

Round 26 Justin Dalles C St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC

Round 27 Bryan Kervin SS Texas Christian

2005 149 0.342 0.398 0.436
2006 258 0.329 0.396 0.422 1.32 13%
2007 262 0.290 0.355 0.389
2008 250 0.288 0.350 0.372 1.46 12%

Round 28 John Anderson LHP Chabot (Calif.) JC

Round 29 Justin Cryer RHP Mississippi

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2008 33.1 1.35 7.3 3.5 0.3 6.5

Round 30 Cody Dunbar RHP Texas Christian

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2005 5.00 12.60 3.6 12.6 0.0 10.8
2007 18.2 5.79 8.4 5.9 0.5 12.9

Round 31 Justin Betts-Robinson LHP New Mexico JC

Round 32 Ryan Scott C Chaparal HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.

Round 33 Justin McClanahan 2B Louisville

2007 104 0.250 0.313 0.471
2008 261 0.372 0.424 0.625 2.75 15%

Round 34 Austin Armstrong RHP Palm Beach (Fla.) CC

Round 35 Matthew Moody LHP Louisiana-Lafayette

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2005 57.1 4.08 7.4 3.3 0.6 8.8
2006 113 2.63 6.8 2.1 0.7 8.0
2007 85 4.13 7.9 2.2 0.6 10.3
2008 99.1 3.26 6.9 2.1 0.9 9.3

Round 36 Ryan Koch RHP Florida Southern College

Round 37 Dallas Beeler RHP Jenks (Okla.) HS

Round 38 Quentin Williams OF Pittsburgh Central Catholic HS

Round 39 Jordan Flasher RHP George Mason

Year Innings ERA K/9 BB/9 HR/9 H/9
2006 29 4.34 8.1 3.4 0.0 8.4
2007 38 2.84 9.2 3.6 0.5 8.1
2008 1 9.00 9.0 27.0 0.0 0.0

Round 40 Nate Nelson 1B Worcester State (Mass.) College

Round 41 Kyle Petter LHP West HS, Torrance, Calif.

Round 42 Andrew Durden OF Indian River (Fla.) CC

Round 43 Tyler Ybarra LHP Wellington (Fla.) HS

Round 44 George Agyapong-Mensah OF Western Texas JC


All Jay picks, including video is available at this link

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Brent S - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#186719) #
7th round pick is Pepperdine U. senior Eric Thames. Here's a recent interview with him.
Brent S - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 11:49 AM EDT (#186721) #

8th round pick is Auburn U. RP Evan Crawford. Another Cape Cod pick.

Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 11:51 AM EDT (#186723) #
Thames sounds like an excellent 7th round pick.  There is nothing wrong with stocking up on centerfielders.
Pistol - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 11:55 AM EDT (#186725) #
Agreed, although it seems like there might be another story here for why he lasted until the 200s.

But if the Jays sign him they could have a great steal here.

Jdog - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#186727) #
As a college senior what are the alternatives to signing? Can a guy simply refuse to sign, go play independent ball for a year and then sign wherever as a free agent?
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#186728) #
According to the interview Brent S linked to, Thames had indicated that he had surgery to repair a tear in his quad muscle on May 24.  Perhaps that is why he dropped, but it wouldn't trouble me.
Brent S - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#186729) #
Antonio Jimenez, catcher out of high school in Puerto Rico is the 9th round selection. He was #200 on BA's 200 Top Prospects list. He has some injury concerns, but looks to be good 9th round value. I'm liking Day 2 so far.
Pistol - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:04 PM EDT (#186730) #
The quad has to be it (I just read it as well... picks come in quick now!).

I don't know how willing he is to sign after going in the 7th, but this is the type of pick the Jays should be making.... a top 50 player in the 7th round.  Even if he costs mid 6 figures to sign it's worth the gamble.

Pistol - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:06 PM EDT (#186731) #
And as always, if you have scouting reports or articles or anything of interest on a player make a comment and we'll build the thread.
Jdog - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:11 PM EDT (#186733) #
Sickels selected Thames in the 3rd round of his twins shadow draft and then wondered how far he would fall in the real draft due to his injury.  Weird an outfielder with a quad injury would fall that much, I mean its not like its a pitcher with an arm injury.
Sneeps - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:20 PM EDT (#186734) #
Thames is a very intruiging pick.  He had a big power spike in his senior year, to go along with some good speed and altheticism.

In general JP has been going after some speedy players, and in my opinion you can never have too much speed.  (it never goes into slumps)

Sneeps - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:23 PM EDT (#186735) #
According to this article ( Dustin Antolins fastball stis in the 89-91 range, but does touch 94 at times.
tstaddon - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#186736) #
Really liking the Sobolewski, Thames and Crawford picks. Just because you don't go over slot in round one doesn't mean you can't drop a little coin in later rounds to get it done. That's added value. I like it.
Halladayfan32 - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:33 PM EDT (#186738) #

Here is an article on Round 12 pick Matthew Wright LHP Shippensberg U

Halladayfan32 - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:38 PM EDT (#186739) #

Round 13 pick Matthew Daly RHP U of Hawaii

Threw a CG no hitter in the Cap last Summer and has hit 97 on the gun.

Another article on him

Ducey - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:47 PM EDT (#186741) #
Whoa, those article on Wright and Daly are a little alarming.  Wright threw 166 pitches and Daly was at 100 in the seventh and went on to finish the game.  Are there no pitch counts in College or highschool ball?
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 12:51 PM EDT (#186742) #
Sometimes not, Ducey.  I remember being alarmed at Zach Jackson's pitch counts, and his were far from the worst in college ball.
Brent S - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:06 PM EDT (#186743) #
BA has a little write-up about 9th round catcher Antonio Jimenez.
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:20 PM EDT (#186745) #
Pistol, here are Holguin's 2008 statistics. Not that much is told in them...

D.J. Hicks appears to be still available.  Signability?.

Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#186746) #
Canadian Michael Crouse is the Jays 17th rounder.
Thomas - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#186749) #
I quite like how the second day is turning out. Thames' and Jiminez both have injury issues, but I like the gamble in the lower single-digit rounds. Both sound like they would have gone several rounds earlier had they been healthy.

Here's Daniel Farquhar's page from the Louisiana-LaFayette site.
Thomas - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:11 PM EDT (#186750) #
Chris Holguin's page from Lubbock Christian.

Scott Gracey from the U of New Mexico.

Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#186751) #
Gracey was primarily a shortstop in college.  The shortstop to mound conversion has worked once for the club in recent years!
Brent S - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#186753) #

It seems that D.J. Hicks is a signee with Central Florida, which could be the kicker in this draft. I wonder what it would take to get some of these guys to sign.

Ducey - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#186754) #

BA had this to say in their Draft Blog (publically available):

In the 15th round, the Blue Jays popped Scott Gracey, the New Mexico righthander who’s been likened to current Jays reliever Jeremy Accardo. Like Accardo, Gracey was primarily a shortstop in college but has pitched a bit as a reliever. He’s shown low-90s velocity and a quick arm, but most impressively, he’s shown a plus cutter at 88-90 mph.

metafour - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#186755) #
Gracey was a guy that John Manuel and Matt Blood talked about in a BA podcast (May 23rd I believe?). They talked about him as an intriguing guy who they thought had a chance to go in rounds 7-12.  They mentioned the comparison to Accardo as a position guy who has impressed with recent performances as a relief guy.
John Northey - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:22 PM EDT (#186756) #
Given we are up to round 26 I'd certainly look at drafting D.J. Hicks and seeing what he wants.  Of course, most teams probably already know what he wants thus why a first round talent is down to the 26th without being picked.  Still, no one thought Bo Jackson would sign and he did back in '86 so who knows.

I give the Jays a lot of credit though for taking a few guys who could be tough signs.  No risk, no reward and after the first 5 rounds you can't realistically expect to find anyone who will be more than a AAAA guy who gets a few games in the majors now and then.

For example, for guys still active in the majors today the Jays have drafted 55 players.
Of those 55...
11 were first round picks
2 were first round supplemental
5 were second round
4 were 3rd round
1 was a 4th round (Casey Janssen)
5 were 5th round
4 were 6th to 10th round
11 were 11th to 25th rounds (Litsch, Johnson, Chulk, Jeff Kent,...)
9 were after the 25th round (Hudson listed twice, Woody Williams, Chris Woodward, Brad Hawpe who didn't sign here)

So a couple of big successes from rounds 26 on but that includes 25 guys per year.  So there is a shot, but a slim one that normally requires a guy signing who wasn't expected to.  Thus D.J. Hicks would be a good prospect at this point, but odds are he won't sign for less than 1st round money.
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#186757) #
16th rounder Kyle Conley has had a big year for U of Washington after a rough 2007 due to a shoulder injury.
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:33 PM EDT (#186758) #
I highly recommend the milb scouting video for late round choice Justin Dalles (see Pistol's link at the end of his piece).  Dalles is a juco catcher, and the video gives you quite a bit of information about his arm, speed, and batting style.  Plus, you get to see a live dinger and an HBP. :)
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:50 PM EDT (#186759) #
The BA list of draftees does not correspond with milb's.  BA has Conley going to the Jays; milb does not.
Pistol - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#186761) #
I noticed this morning that BA was a little off when I saw the Yankees with two 6th rounders.

I'd trust MLB on this one.

MatO - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#186762) #
MLB has Crouse in the 16th round 2 picks after Conley was picked by the Dodgers.
MatO - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 03:57 PM EDT (#186763) #
I was wondering what the fascination was with Conley.
MatO - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#186764) #
The Jays continue drafting after the 30th round unlike last year.
Mike Green - Friday, June 06 2008 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#186769) #
I am not sure if da Box's General Manager Emeritus Furlong appreciates the Jays' latest draft selection Jordan Flasher.
Craig B - Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 12:08 AM EDT (#186784) #
Well, it beats lawblogging for excitement, I guess.
Magpie - Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 02:23 AM EDT (#186785) #
the Jays' latest draft selection Jordan Flasher.

Any relation to Albert?
Chris DH - Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#186800) #

Article on one of the Jays last picks, high schooler & LHP, Tyler Ybarra.

Both he and his advisor expected him to go around the 10th round and sign a bonus anywhere between $75K and $100K.

Earlier this month he threw a fastball at 93 MPH in front of scouts

Often compared to wild pitcher "Nuke" Laloosh from movie Bull Durham

Has signed a letter of intent with Hutchinson Community College

In 28.2IP, has allowed 16 hits, 25 walks (!), 40 strike outs.

Some potential there - interesting to see whether the Jays make a serious attempt to sign him...

Chris DH - Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 02:53 PM EDT (#186803) #

I would imagine if Ybarra and his advisor were hoping for $75K - $100K that the Jays could get him signed?  Or are the late picks more of a contigency plan in case they cant sign some earlier picks? Even if thats the case, offering Ybarra somewhere between $25K and $50K could get something done? Not that i am big on Ybarra, but for such a relatively cheap price (compared to the cost of free agents or top picks) you can get a lefty that throws in the 90's...

Also it appears Jordan Flasher only pitched around an inning in 2008 and had TJ surgery.


bill - Saturday, June 07 2008 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#186810) #
The internet has a few details on various draftees. Cody Dunbar has been drafted by the jays before in 2007, has a 94 mph fastball and has been a closer. Gracey has a low 90's fastball and a split finger pitch. Beeler pitched a simulated game in Toronto, had to pay to travel there and did, struck out 3 and got a hit. Quentin Williams may go to Stanford and play Tight End. Nate Nelson sounds like he will sign. He weighs 300 pounds. Kyle Petter has committed to Cal State Fullerton, has a 92 mph fastball, went 5th in a Sickle's draft, and had learning disabilities problems but worked at them. Rob Bell has had TJ surgery. Roenicke is a bull pen pitcher. Huggins had an 8-3 record which I would think makes his a starter with a 77-26 K-W ratio. Sorry I'm not good at links. Bill 
Chris DH - Sunday, June 08 2008 @ 02:14 PM EDT (#186858) #

Yeah, the internet has tons of stuff.

Here is a brief article on Kyle Petter being drafted by the Jays:

Although it states he has a commitment to Cal State Fullerton, it does state that he is considered an easier sign.

An interesting article on Petter (and his resolve).  He was ineligble to play as a sophomore due to bad grades:,0,6581684,full.story

Other key points:

- lefthander who's fastball can kiss 92 mph, a curve that snaps down with slider-type bite

- built like a catcher with squared shoulders and big legs

- plans to play college ball and has committed to Cal State Fullerton


Pistol - Tuesday, June 10 2008 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#186958) #
I added the stats in for the players beyond round 15 in D1.

Some of the later hitters look pretty interesting, statistically, particularly OFs Brian Van Kirk and Brad McElroy.

Kelekin - Wednesday, June 11 2008 @ 02:49 AM EDT (#187000) #
It's easy to be skeptical on Van Kirk because of his age/years in college but it's always nice to get players with stats like that in late rounds and there's no reason not to.  (I also thought we should've drafted Dirks, who was over-shadowed by Gillespie being on the same team but put up similar stats and fell to the 8th or 9th round)

Just a note that 16th round still shows Kyle Conley on the article though it's definitely Michael Crouse. :)

Oh and if you do want any stats on the Juco players, has it all.  Justin Betts Robinson led Div I teams with a 1.07 ERA and I would assume him to be a tough sign. 

Interesting that Nate Nelson was first drafted in the 2002 draft.  He hit twice as many HRs as anyone else in MASCAC.
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