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That's my boyScott "Big and" Richmond went seven solid innings as the Jays trumped the Royals 8-1 Tuesday night at Kauffman Stadium.  Mad props and big ups to the former Edmonton Cracker-Cat as he improves to 3-0 on the season!



Richmond benefitted from some stellar defence to get out of the first when Aaron Hill made a diving stop on a grounder to second to throw out Mark Teahen.  Lyle Overbay then fired a seed to Scott Rolen at third to get David DeJesus trying to go from first to third for an unconventional, inning-ending 4-3-5 double play.  The Jays got on the board in the top of the second when Overbay lifted a sac fly to foul territory in left field to score Vernon Wells' leadoff double.  They would load up the bases against Gil Meche but the Royals righty got Marco Scutaro to ground out on a full count offering.  Still, they made Meche work as he needed 34 pitches to get out of the inning.

Richmond had some work to do to get out of the third inning unscathed.  He allowed the first two men to get aboard on singles but he pounced on a sacrifice bunt attempt by Coco Crisp and fired to third to force Mike Aviles.  It was a bang-bang play that drew the ire of Royals skipper Trey Hillman, who came out to argue but it was to no avail.  Richmond went on to escape a bases-loaded jam by getting Jose Guillen to pop up to Rod Barajas in foul territory.

B.A. helped his batterymate by driving in the Jays second run of the game by doubling home an Overbay double.  The Jays continued to mash against Meche when Hill plated Barajas with a single and Wells singled up the gut to score Hill and Scutaro.  That chased Meche from the game and it was later revealed he left with a sore back (and probably a sore ass too!).

Richmond was nicked for a run in the fifth when DeJesus doubled home Crisp with two outs but only allowed one more hit after that to get through seven innings.  He allowed the one run on five hits and three walks while striking out five and got nine outs on the ground.  The Jays put the game away with three runs in the eighth on RBI singles by Scutaro, Hill and Wells.  Jesse "Arthur, aka the Big Guy" Carlson overcame a double and a Hill error in the eighth and Brandon League set down the Royals in order in the ninth.

At the dish, Hill and Wells led the hit parade with three safeties with V-Dub driving in three while Hill drove in two and added a walk to get aboard four times.  Barajas had two hits and a walk, Sctuaro had a hit and two free passes and Rolen had a two-hit night.  In total, the Jays got on board 20 times with 14 hits and six walks and went 8-for-17 with runners in scoring position but they did leave 10 men on - totally unacceptable!  :D

Tonight, Brian Tallet will face the 0.00 ERA of 4-0 Zach Greinke in an 8:10 p.m. EDT first pitch at Kauffman Stadium.  The man Tallet replaced in the rotation, Ricky Romero, will play some catch today as he recovers from a strained oblique.

In other TDIB notes........

*   The Red Sox throw one away against the Tribe and throw away top spot in the A.L. East to your fighting Blue Jays.  Meantime, the injured Daisuke Matsuzaka will see how his shoulder is doing in a bullpen session today.

*  The Yankees destroy Detroit at Comerica while A-Rod takes another step in his rehab.

*  O's manager Dave Trembley gets the heave-ho for arguing a balk call as they fall to the Angels at Camden Yards.

*   The Brewers beat the Pirates for the 14th straight time and made it 17 in a row against the Bucs at Miller Park as the "Hoff" gets his first save of the year.

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Ryan Day - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#199113) #
I just noticed that Alex Rios is currently the worst hitter, by a fair margin, in the Jays lineup. Yes folks, Rod Barajas is a greater offensive force than Rios.

That should change at some point. I still think Marco Scutaro being second in the league in walks is one of the strangest offensive happenings of the year.

D. King - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 02:00 PM EDT (#199114) #

I just found myself wandering around Baseball Prospectus for an hour and found another reason to be happy about how this team is doing so far this season: their baserunning.

So far this season they are leading the majors in EqBRR (Equivalent Base Running Runs, a measure of a players contribution on the basepaths - in runs - above what would be expected) with a total of 5.54. After the Jays its a bit of a step down to the Angels (3.39) and the Rockies (3.06).

Leading the way on the Jays this year are Wells (EqBRR = 1.48), Scutaro (1.28) and Hill (1.18). Rios is in the basement (below the catchers, who are the only others on the team in negative figures) with a total of -0.75, which seems to be due mostly to errors in 'Air Advancement.' Judging from his history his numbers seem likely to improve.

Interestingly, this proficiency on the basepaths seems to be a relatively new phenomenon. In the Gibbons years, the Jays generally did quite poorly. 13th place overall in 2004 (EqBRR = -4.63), 10th in 2005 (-1.2), 29th in 2006 (-15.55.... oh, Bengie), and 25th in 2007 (-8.35). Last year was a bit of a rebound from the horrendous numbers of the previous two: the Jays finished in 15th place overall, with a total of -3.62. Would any of the recent change have to do with Cito?

Back in 1992 the Jays were 6th overall (EqBRR -0.20) led by Devon Whites EqBRR of 5.61. The next year the Jays finished 5th (-1.97) Led by Paul Molitor's impressive 6.53 (which was offset by Olerud's -6.61).

Also, it's interesting just how bad the league is in baserunning, according to EqBRR. Many years in the past several decades there have been very few teams in positive figures. Does this suggest that baserunning is de-emphasized in the current game, or that the formula for EqBRR needs some sort of adjustment?

Tenobia - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 02:29 PM EDT (#199115) #
Tonight, Brian Tallet will face the 0.00 ERA of 4-0 Zach Greinke in an 8:10 p.m. EDT first pitch at Kauffman Stadium.

Weather permitting.  It doesn't look good at this point with 90% possibility of thunderstorms through the afternoon and evening according to The Weather Network.
Mike Green - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#199116) #
Phil Hughes' return to New York is a big deal.  It wouldn't shock me if Hughes and Chamberlain are very good starters in 2009, while Sabathia and Burnett struggle.  TINSTAAGFAP (good free-agent pitcher).
D. King - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#199117) #

Weather permitting. It doesn't look good at this point with 90% possibility of thunderstorms through the afternoon and evening according to The Weather Network.

Who prayed for rain?

whiterasta80 - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 03:14 PM EDT (#199119) #
That would be me... although I prayed for 2 days of it (what good is a doubleheader on getaway day)
Tenobia - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#199122) #
That would be me... although I prayed for 2 days of it (what good is a doubleheader on getaway day)

50% chance of thunderstorms Thursday :)
Mike Green - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 03:29 PM EDT (#199123) #
I was thinking about the Las Vegas infield defence and the Jays infield defence.  There is such a cavernous gap in quality, that it may be that a young pitcher would be better off with the big club developing than in Las Vegas.  It is a shame that the organization didn't acquire four A good gloves to man the middle of the infield (with Inglett filling in around the infield, but playing most of the time in outfield) in Vegas.

The upshot though is that Brett Cecil may get his chance sooner than one might have expected.



Ducey - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#199124) #

Mike,

Is the infield D that much of a concern?  Any errors would result in a lower ERA and surely the organization would be tracking the nature of the hits. No?

I guess it would undermine confidence of the pitcher but the younger guys likely are used to lousy D being just a year removed from A ball?

Ryan Day - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 04:11 PM EDT (#199125) #
One could argue that you want pitchers to feel successful. You can certainly say that Cecil's results aren't hugely meaningful because of the defence behind him, but that doesn't mean Cecil won't get discouraged when he sees ground balls shooting through the infielders.

Who knows, really. Pitcher psychology is a tricky thing, and having a couple guys who can hit in the lineup might be good for his self-esteem, too.

pooks137 - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#199128) #

JP/Dick Scott should have filled the infield in Las Vegas with 4 stellar AAAA gloves for Brett Cecil's benefit? I find criticisms of the organization like this to be difficult to comprehend. 

Filling empty spots in AAA with potent, non-prospect bats like Ruiz and Harper is exactly what JP was criticized for not doing in Syracuse for some many years, leading to uncompetitive squads that apparently played a big role in our banishment from New York to Nevada for the next two years.  Much has been made of the fact that Las Vegas is not a very healthy stop for developping our star pitching prospects.  Experts such as Gerry and Marc have suggested that in the next 2 years, Toronto must do everything it can to prove to other potential AAA cities that we are committed to fielding competitive minor league teams if we hope to get out of their odd couple relationship with LV.

Building your entire AAA team to suit one prospect completely goes against this approach and sets an awful precedent.

And besides, what of the "free Scott Campbell" bandwagon?  These messages boards were filled with calls to test him at AAA all last year.  Does it only take six AAA errors to thin the ranks?

Mike Green - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#199129) #
Yep, confidence and also a realistic adjustment of pitching patterns.  Cecil's game is ground balls and strikeouts.  If the defence behind him is turning 68% of the ground balls into outs (say), a ground ball is a good outcome for him.  If the defence behind him is turning 62% of the ground balls into outs, a ground ball is a poor outcome for him.  Knowing this affects the way a pitcher sees the game, and also opposing batters' approaches. 

Cecil probably had a significantly better infield defence behind him last year.  Opposition BABIP while he was pitching was .310 in New Hampshire, and .314 in Syracuse.  These are fairly typical figures; it is .344 this year and that is entirely understandable when you field the infield that the 51s have been putting out there.  His K/PA rate has been cut in half, but it's a lot easier for hitters knowing that just putting the ball in play may be enough...

Mike Green - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 04:45 PM EDT (#199130) #
Pooks, I like Campbell at third base.  I suggested that the club needed decent defenders in the middle of the infield.  Pitching in the PCL is tough enough without a decent infield.  If the club had a good shortstop in the high minors who potentially could be blocked that would be one thing, but they don't. 
Ryan Day - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 04:51 PM EDT (#199131) #
I'd assume Angel Sanchez is around for his glove, as he sure doesn't offer much with the bat.
pooks137 - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 05:11 PM EDT (#199134) #

Sorry Mike, I misread your post as asking for four AAA glove men as opposed to AAAA middle infielders. Seems like a much more reasonable request.

I do agree that it's pretty hard to defend why Adams is still with the organization, hot bat or not, and playing 2b to boot.  Placeholding for Brad Emaus, I suppose. If I remember correctly, the scouting on Emaus is hot bat, poor range and he may be up to replace Adams by midseason, which may make this all moot.

I still think it's hard to put too much stock into middle infield defence as the cause of Cecil's struggles, no matter how hard we would like to think Adams' arm and glove is for the young lefty's confidence or numbers.  I don't much about Sanchez either, but I assume he's passable.  How much is adding a stellar glove at 2b really going to make a difference? 

 

Nick Holmes - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 07:08 PM EDT (#199138) #
Slightly off topic: any one see this?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8803

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/discussion/bpro_sheehan_lets_get_real/
Gwyn - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 08:29 PM EDT (#199139) #
Tonights game is on, but delayed until 8:40 PM EST.
TamRa - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 09:14 PM EDT (#199141) #
There goes the shutout streak, courtesy of Vernon Wells.



scottt - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#199142) #
Joe Sheehan thinks Overbay's numbers are not sustainable. There are quite sustainable if he doesn't face lefties. He doesn't think Rolen should be hitting .320. If he remains healthy and gets the odds day off here and there, he could hit .300 all year. Hill won't be hitting .370 at the end of the year, but hopefully, Rios won't be hitting .237 either.

It seems like he's really upset with Cito's platoons  which have  boosted production in LF/1B against his predictions.


Let's get real, I don't care much for his tone.

The Jays have done well against their division in recent year. They've never been able to keep a   .600 average against weaker teams the way Boston and New-York have.


TamRa - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 11:01 PM EDT (#199143) #
And that, Scott, is the key observation. Sheehan is assuming, not only in the absence of evidence but worst in the face of evidence to the contrary that the "big three" is or will be the downfall of this team.

It's true the Jays have historically underachieved vs the Rays, but not so against the Yanks and BoSox

Oh, and he counts the Rays as still one of the teams to beat so how are they doing?

3-3 vs those supposedly killer division rivals NY and Boston...and 5-11 versus everyone else.

that tells me two things -

1. maybe the Rays are not among those we should be assuming will knock the Jays off their perch

2. If division ricals are to be feared, how come the struggling Rays did better against them than against the league at large?

(Yes I know, sample size, but that applies to various aspects of Sheenan's post)

Waveburner - Wednesday, April 29 2009 @ 11:10 PM EDT (#199147) #

That was one ugly performance by Tallet today. The patchwork rotation is starting to pitch like one would expect of the 11th/12th guy down the depth chart. 

I must say I really don't like pitching Frasor in a frigging 11-2 game. Use Bullington for 2 innings. Guy is garbage-time only anyways. If his arm falls off who cares. Keep all the good arms ready so you can maybe keep tomorrow's game close when Burres starts to "tire" (I'd say suck but that seems rude).    

Thomas - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 02:21 AM EDT (#199151) #
Tonight's game is best forgotten quickly, but if Tallet gives the Jays two starts of 6 inning shutout ball and then one stinker, I'd still take that from a starter who isn't on the top five in the depth chart at this point and would be in double digits if most of our injured pitchers were healthy.

A surprise by Burres tomorrow or a good offensive performance and the Jays might still leave KC without having lost a series all year.
Dave Till - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 07:24 AM EDT (#199155) #
I believe that Sheehan is a Yankee fan, among other things. I don't take what he has to say about the Jays seriously.

Having said that, I fear that I am something of a pessimist. Every time a Jays starter gets pounded, I think that this is the beginning of the end, and I wonder whether this season's hot start will turn out to be cruel because it gave us unwarranted hope for a brief period of time.

And having said that, I think the team is genuinely better than some people think. The hot hitters will regress, of course, but there aren't any significant holes in the lineup - there are no more John McDonalds or Brad Wilkersons or Kevin Menches to snuff out rallies. Sure, Hill is hitting much better than expected, and so is Rolen and maybe Lind - but Rios is underachieving, so it kind of evens out. The bullpen is still pretty good, and the team defense is still outstanding.

If the club can hold on until the pitching reinforcements arrive, good things could still happen. And they don't have to finish ahead of Boston - they just have to finish ahead of the Yankees, Tampa Bay, and the teams in the other divisions, most of which they have just finished cuffing around. (There's that blasted hope again. Sigh.)

James W - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 07:50 AM EDT (#199156) #
Greinke gave up a run in the 5th inning of his previous start.  Contrary to his 0.00 ERA, his shutout streak ended 5 days ago.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 03:23 PM EDT (#199165) #
We can now root for Burres to be perfect, without any fear about the long-term impact.  The glass is half-full. :)
vw_fan17 - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 03:41 PM EDT (#199167) #
Greinke gave up a run in the 5th inning of his previous start.  Contrary to his 0.00 ERA, his shutout streak ended 5 days ago.

James, that depends on whether you talk about EARNED or UNEARNED runs.

If you get a ground ball, the shortstop throws the ball away for a 2B error, the guy goes to 3rd on a passed ball, and scores on a sac fly and then you get the next guy to retire the side, was that an earned run? Not saying that's exactly how it happened for Greinke, but just an example..
CeeBee - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 03:42 PM EDT (#199168) #
Or completely empty. I certainly hope today is the last day Mr. Burres is with the big club.
James W - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 05:20 PM EDT (#199171) #
It was a double followed by an error that led to an unearned run.  The funny thing about scoreboards and shutouts is they don't care about errors.  If runs score, your shutout is over.  As evidenced by saying "his 0.00 ERA", I was aware he hadn't given up any earned runs, but he had allowed a run before last night.
Gerry - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 07:49 PM EDT (#199173) #
As reported by Mike Green in the minor league thread Burres and Bullington have been sent down.  No call-ups announced yet.
Thomas - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 08:27 PM EDT (#199175) #
The MLB report says "One of the pitchers will stay with the team through Friday's game in Toronto against Baltimore." I can't recall seeing that line on a story before. Are they implying that one of those two, most likely Bullington, is going to be active for Friday's game? If so, why would they already announce that they are sending him down? Why not just recall someone (most likely Wolfe or Accardo) and have the presumably fresh arm ready for Friday's contest (even if it won't likely be needed with Doc on the mound)?

Usually I'd say that this would be a good opportunity to recall an extra body for the bench for the series against Baltimore, before sending him back to Las Vegas and promoting Cecil (?) for Tuesday's start. However, not only is a moot point given Cito's managerial style in the early months of a season, but if it is Cecil than it may be best to get him up to Toronto quickly and give him a couple of days to adjust to the MLB environment and consult with Arnsberg.
jmoney - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 08:38 PM EDT (#199177) #
Well this series mirrored what I think we might be seeing with the Jays for the next couple of weeks.

Some real bad starting pitching. These injuries have caught up to the Jays methinks.

Gerry - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#199179) #
Fabio Castro is starting for Las Vegas tonight.  He would be on schedule to start in Burres' spot next week.  It could be the Jays are watching tonights start before making a decision.
TamRa - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 09:42 PM EDT (#199180) #
Ah, but the next 10 games are against struggling teams.

not only that,eight of the next nine starters we face are all struggling with ERA's ranging from the low fives to over seven. The one good one we do face (Weaver) faces Halladay.

Not predicting it but I wouldn't be stunned by a nine game winning streak even with just so so pitching a lot of days.







scottt - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 10:40 PM EDT (#199181) #
Burres and Bullington were both sent back to Vegas following the game.

I suppose there's no rush to announce who's pitching Tuesday. Is Accardo coming back to the pen?


Gerry - Thursday, April 30 2009 @ 11:02 PM EDT (#199182) #

Castro has pitched three innings so far in AAA, 70 pitches, four hits and two walks allowed.

In the who starts next contest, it looks like the next starter will be either Murphy or Cecil.  Burres, Bullington and Castro look to be out of the running.  Mills is still a wildcard.

Geoff - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 12:24 AM EDT (#199189) #
I can recall another year in which the Jays would win every April series against teams not named the Royals. They went 16-9 in April of that year (compared to this year's paltry 15-9) and ended with a loss to the Royals on April 30th.

Can you name that year?

Some clues:

  1. The Jays won their first home game of that season before a crowd of less than 20,000.
  2. After the first week of May, they would never see the view from the top of the division again that year.
  3. The opening day pitcher, whom I shall not name, was 4-1 with a 2.77 ERA that April, losing only to the Royals. Then 5-10, 6.16 ERA the next four months.
vw_fan17 - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#199228) #
It was a double followed by an error that led to an unearned run.  The funny thing about scoreboards and shutouts is they don't care about errors.  If runs score, your shutout is over.  As evidenced by saying "his 0.00 ERA", I was aware he hadn't given up any earned runs, but he had allowed a run before last night.

I guess it's semantics, but I'd say the TEAM allowed a run during one of his starts. Greinke's NOT responsible for defensive errors, which is why "errors" are assessed, after all - to make it clear it wasn't the pitcher's fault. Greinke pitched well enough that, assuming no errors, his PITCHING was not responsible for the run.

92-93 - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 03:37 PM EDT (#199232) #
"I guess it's semantics, but I'd say the TEAM allowed a run during one of his starts."

It's also the TEAM that wins and loses games when a pitcher appears in them, and yet we attribute them with W-L records. Semantics.
Magpie - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 05:06 PM EDT (#199233) #
Can you name that year?

Gotta be 2001. Buck Martinez and Esteban Loaiza. Where the hell was that Opening game anyway? Puerto Rico?
Geoff - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 06:03 PM EDT (#199238) #
Indeed, the Jays played as the home team at Hiram Bithorn Stadium and won 8-1.

And had a strong April much like this year. Here's hoping that remembering the past will help the Jays to avoid a May six-game losing skid at home that they accomplished that year.

CeeBee - Friday, May 01 2009 @ 10:11 PM EDT (#199248) #
Well, a good start to the month of May. Not a particularly good game by Doc but a  win is a win.
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