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Okay, this is probably more of a poll question, but I haven't been able to get the [expletive deleted] poll gadget to work for me since early in '09. So anyway  ...

Your Toronto Blue Jays are 16-13 and solidly in third place in the AL East and tied for second in the Wild Card "standings." No doubt about it, they're a real surprise. But in the big picture, now that we're a month into the season, what is THE most surprising ball club in the major leagues this season?

We have MANY options ...



  • The Rays (19-7) have the best record in baseball;
  • The Red Sox are 14-14 and dwelling in a distant fourth place;
  • The Orioles are on pace to win just 40 games for the season and have almost half their season's wins to date against Boston;
  • The entire AL West, with its standings that look upside down ... The A's are in first place? The Rangers are playing .500 ball while the M's aren't? The Angels are 12-17???
  • Speaking of upside-down West division standings, how about the NL? The Pads (17-10) and Giants (16-10) are front-running, while the Dodgers (11-15) bring up the rear;
  • The Nats are 14-13 and just two games out of the NL East lead.
  • Sure, the Reds are just 14-14, but they are in second place;
  • The Braves are 12-15 ... and falling;
  • Houston is 9-18 and already been outscored by an aggregate of 51 runs, one of only two teams to have under-achieved at that rate -- even the Orioles are "only" minus-47 in the same number of games played.

Okay, that would be too much information to cram into a poll -- which solidifies the point. What the hell is going on in 2010?

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slitheringslider - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 03:13 AM EDT (#214685) #
I'll do my best to give my 2c on each of the options

  • The Rays (19-7) have the best record in baseball:
They are certainly a good enough ball club to play .650 ball over a small sample size. Surprising but no one is shocked that they are as good as they are in the past month.
  • The Red Sox are 14-14 and dwelling in a distant fourth place
Same boat as the Rays. People thought their offense is mediocre and it certainly shows. They are definitely better than a .500 ball club, but might not be a playoff team playing in the AL East.
  • The Orioles are on pace to win just 40 games for the season and have almost half their season's wins to date against Boston;
This is pretty surprising IMO, many people predicted the Orioles to breakthrough this year. Even if they are not the 08 Rays I don't think people expected them to be this bad.
  • The entire AL West, with its standings that look upside down ... The A's are in first place? The Rangers are playing .500 ball while the M's aren't? The Angels are 12-17???
The Angels is not the same team that dominated the AL West this past decade, M's are overhyped following the big moves this summer, someone has to have a winning record in the division, right?
  • Speaking of upside-down West division standings, how about the NL? The Pads (17-10) and Giants (16-10) are front-running, while the Dodgers (11-15) bring up the rear;
The Pads might be the biggest surprise in baseball. Projected to be one of the worst teams in baseball, there are now talks of them being buyers at the deadline. Doubtful they can maintain this pace.
  • The Nats are 14-13 and just two games out of the NL East lead.
Surprising, yes, but even the worst team can play a month of .500 baseball. They are certainly not as bad as they were the last couple years, future is looking up.
  • Sure, the Reds are just 14-14, but they are in second place;
NL Central is terrible, the Cardinals is clearly the class of this division, everyone else is fighting for 2nd. I'll still take the Brew Crew to finish 2nd in this division.
  • The Braves are 12-15 ... and falling;
Meh, expectations weren't that high to begin the season.
  • Houston is 9-18 and already been outscored by an aggregate of 51 runs, one of only two teams to have under-achieved at that rate -- even the Orioles are "only" minus-47 in the same number of games played.
This was expected. Ed Wade has done a pitiful job as GM of the Astros, they can neither hit nor pitch, a recipe for getting the 1st overall pick in next year's draft.

Besides these, how about the surging Mets? Can they realistically make a run at the division?
Chuck - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 06:53 AM EDT (#214689) #

People thought their offense is mediocre and it certainly shows.

While Boston's offense has been underperforming, it still ranks 4th in the league. It's their 11th ranked pitching that is pulling them down.

AWeb - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 07:45 AM EDT (#214690) #
I'd pich the Houston underachieved nit - I thought is was pretty obvious they were going to be one of if not the worst team in the majors. They might not get outscored 462-768 on the year (that's the pace), but they easily maintain their pace of winning lose 100+.

Every team has already won at least two one-run games (except the Yankees, who have played only 2), so there is no clear "it's not their year" candidate yet from an unlucky point of view.

I think the Jays leading the majors in HR and Doubles is a huge surprise...and they lead the league in strikeouts for both hitters and pitchers.  The 16-13 result is pretty good, but how they are doing it (as a team, they have more XBH than singles) is a shock to me. When this team slumps, it will be ugly, but the hot streaks have been nice.

St. Louis has had 25 quality starts in 28 games. I'm assuming that pace would establish a "last 20 years" record at the least. How soon does that team start backing off starters a bit to keep innings down pre-playoffs? July?
China fan - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 08:29 AM EDT (#214692) #

When this team slumps, it will be ugly....

But the good young pitching, and the depth of pitching in reserve, might help the Jays to avoid any 9-game losing streaks this season.  Last year, the pitching (after Halladay and Romero) was pretty ugly for much of the season.  This season's depth is very different.  If one pitcher tanks, there are lots of good options waiting in the wings.  The real question mark is the offense.  But if we see improvements from Snider and Lind and Overbay, it could offset the inevitable declines from Gonzalez and Wells.  And there is Wallace waiting in the wings if Overbay never gets it together.

subculture - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 10:11 AM EDT (#214699) #

I didn't foresee any of the surprises in the other divisions, but the AL East is going pretty much how I expected (and think I wrote here), though I am surprised by the Jays looking like a +500 club.

Snyder looks completely different from a week ago, if he has actually evolved into being closer to the hitter we all thought he'd be, than our lineup becomes significantly stronger (and able to withstand an injury to another bat). 

The biggest positive has been the starting pitching though, and if this can continue than the future is pretty bright.  But things can turn quickly... I hope this never happens of course but wouldn't be too surprised if 2-3 months from now, a combination of injuries, hitters adapting to seeing pitchers more often, tired pitching arms etc balloons the collective era and quality starts become rare instead of the current norm.

I also hope that the current hot hitting doesn't disappear like it did last year after the strong start.  I felt that perhaps teams were adapting to Cito's well-known approach (stick with the pitch you went up looking for)..... that doesn't explain why the Jays are hitting again now, but anyways hopefully a major drop-off doesn't occur like last year.

The nice thing is that even with the inevitable bumps in the road, we can look forward to the future promotions of Wallace, Drabek, Stewart, JPA and others... we couldn't say that last year...

Mike Green - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 10:48 AM EDT (#214700) #
With the additions of Beltre and Scutaro, it is no surprise that the Sox have been much better at turning ground balls into outs.  Clay Buchholz has thrived.  On the other hand, with Cameron and Ellsbury out, the Sox OF defence has taken a hit and it looks like this has been hurting Beckett and Wakefield. 
bpoz - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 11:46 AM EDT (#214701) #
The Nats would be my surprise team at 14-13. Last years Jays had some good stuff happen, Scutoro, Lind and Hill offensively. Pitching wise Rickey was good and the kids handled the majors quite well. The bad was V Wells & A Rios RISP, which Cito handled in his usual style, patient and loyal but they "never" came around. Rios also had "mental breakdowns" which sometimes happened at critical times, he simply may be a no heads up type of player. Lyle Overbay tries (even now) to be a get on base type of hitter when the situation calls for driving the ball. For example he will not swing at a hittable ball, which produces more BBs, yesterday with the bases loaded and a full count he chose to watch a called strike (well a bases loaded walk would have been great). IMO the umpire may blow the call or even if he gets on base, he may have had good pitches to hit that were better than anything the next batter sees. Just to recap RISP killed us last year and has for a few years recently (before Cito). My memory is probably subjective but I recall way too much failure even bases loaded none out and nobody scored then 2 innings later 2nd & 3rd 1out and nothing. Cito commented on the many extra base hits this year so far, something like we don't have many guys that can hit that way. Change of philosophy. Maybe the pitchers have been making a mistake and our aggressive approach has been killing them. Lastly no BJ Ryan failure to deal with ($10 mil gives you a long rope). Will the pitching hold up? I am optimistic like Chinafan an extra year of experience for the kids, lots of oppurtunity to get to the bigs if you excel in the minors. One more thing, we have only 1 win against the big boys (TB,Rsox and Angels (a decade of success)). We cannot get absolutely destroyed by inter-league play, TB, Yanks and Bsox like happened last year. No playoffs this year but I will look to see if we would have been in a pennant race if we were in the Central or West.
uglyone - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 11:59 AM EDT (#214704) #

I know many people tend to believe the Jays have been "just hot" so far, but when you go up and down the roster, you likely see more underachievers than overachievers so far.

It's hard to believe that this is just them being "hot", when many if not most of them have been pretty "cold" overall so far.

 

 

Mike Green - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 12:08 PM EDT (#214705) #
You do have to bear in mind that the Jays schedule to date hasn't really been representative of their season.  9 of 29 games have been played against the AL East, and the teams they have missed are the Yankees, Twins, Tigers and Mariners. 
uglyone - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#214706) #

To wit:

HOT

  • Wells: 110ab, 1.033ops
  • Gonzo: 115ab, .928ops
  • Romero: 42.0ip, 3.00era
  • Cecil: 20.2ip, 2.61era
  • Gregg: 13.0ip, 0.69era
  • Camp: 15.0ip, 2.40era

 

AS EXPECTED-ISH

  • Bautista: 108ab, .790ops
  • Lewis: 66ab, .783ops
  • Buck: 80ab, .780ops
  • McCoy: 34ab, .639ops
  • JMac: 35ab, .629ops
  • Molina: 24ab, .546ops
  • Ruiz: 21ab, .333ops
  • Marcum: 40.1ip, 3.12era
  • Eveland: 28.1ip, 4.76era
  • Roenicke: 3.0ip, 0.00era
  • Lewis: 5.1ip, 5.06era

 

COLD AND/OR INJURED

  • Lind: 111ab, .780ops
  • Hill: 59ab, .733ops
  • Snider: 87ab, .707ops
  • EE: 32ab, .677ops
  • Overbay: 98ab, .616ops
  • Morrow: 33.1ip, 5.40era
  • Tallet: 30.1ip, 6.11era
  • Rzepczynski: 0.0ip, 0.00era
  • Downs: 12.2ip, 4.26era
  • Janssen: 11.0ip, 6.55era
  • Frasor: 11.0ip, 7.36era
  • Accardo: 6.2ip, 8.10era

 

I guess I could see some people wanting to push Bautista and Marcum up into the "HOT" category, but i'm not sure they're overachieving their own precedents by a large degree, considering the small sample.

You gotta think that when Wells/Gonzo slow down, at least couple of Hill/Lind/Snidey/Overvay/EE will be able to pick up the slack.

And while Romero and Cecil have been hot (although hey, maybe they're just good), you have to think that getting Tallet and Eveland permanently out of the SP picture with Cecil/Rzep in there is a good reason to hope for improvement in the SP to make up for any cooling from the young lefties.

and,of course, I think we all agree that our bullpen is likely to improve over what it's given us.

When you look at the numbers, it's hard to explain the Jays' solid start as a "hot streak" because really, for the most part, they haven't been "hot".

 

John Northey - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 01:14 PM EDT (#214709) #
San Diego in first is a surprise? Did you not read my NL West preview where I picked them to win it? :)

Of course, I probably will look dumb in a few weeks, but might as well enjoy it for now.
Gerry - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 01:47 PM EDT (#214712) #

Baseball America has a story, for subscribers, about the best and worst teams when it comes to promotions for 2010.  The Jays didn't fare too well.

The team handed out four A's this year, with the Reds receiving an A+ for both the volume (89) and creativity of their promotions. Other A's went to the Astros, Mariners and Pirates.

At the bottom of the class were the Blue Jays and Red Sox, though it would seem for very different reasons.

The Jays, on the other hand, have struggled with attendance for a decade, so having just 12 promotions scheduled for 2010 doesn't make a lot of sense. The promotions also don't show much creativity, with the best probably being a Dave Stieb bobblehead giveaway. The researchers gave the Jays an F-, writing, "The chilling air of Canada froze the Jays quantity, quality and creativity."

Mike Green - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 02:33 PM EDT (#214715) #
On a related note, seeing the Jays' "hot dog" commercial the first time was trying, and it did not improve with repeated viewings.
Dave Rutt - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 03:32 PM EDT (#214716) #
Baseball America has a story, for subscribers, about the best and worst teams when it comes to promotions for 2010. The Jays didn't fare too well.

That's too bad, and frankly a little surprising - while promotions are obviously nowhere near AA's domain, he does seem like he genuinely wants every last part of the organization to be strong, and I would have thought he'd have put something/someone in place for improving the ballpark experience.
Gerry - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#214719) #
I don't think AA has responsibility for marketing or promotions.  I assume that side of the business reports to Beeston.  Beeston appears to be old school, no discounting and few promotions.
Mike Green - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 05:30 PM EDT (#214725) #
When the Jays faced Danks 3 weeks ago,  Gaston ran out 7 right-handed hitters.  It wasn't great, because Danks has a reverse platoon differential for his career.  Fortunately, tonight's lineup is more or less unchanged from yesterday's, with Lind, Overbay, Lewis and Snider all in the lineup. 
earlweaverfan - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 06:14 PM EDT (#214731) #
Uglyone, what I think really reinforces your point is that the two most productive regulars on the Jays last year, and the ones who hit by far the most home runs (Lind / Hill), both started the year slowly, and are as likely to return tolast year's form as anyone in baseball can be.  Note also that the current regular most likely to be replaced by a prospect is Overbay (by Wallace).  It would not surprise me at all if the Jays ended up the season still having the largest number of home runs of any team in baseball.

I think the biggest risk that could cause the Jays to underperform over the rest of the season is that Cito could push for the wrong choices once the DL guys become available.  I am especially concerned that Cito will kick one of the current starters out to the pen or down to Vegas, to give Tallet a place. As for Encarnacion....!
uglyone - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 08:09 PM EDT (#214734) #
Agreed on Lind/Hill....and I'm extremely bullish on Snider improving significantly (with a good chance of dramatically) as the season goes on as well.

As for Tallet.....I really think Cito and AA were flat out scared that their  young pitchers would implode out there this year, and really thought they needed Tallet's veteran calm and presence out there every 5th day to show the kids how to stay calm, even though they knew he was going to stink while doing it. But Cito's recent comments about the young starters have only reinforced what seems to be obvious at this point - the kids are alright. Even if they slow down, I don't think there's a real huge concern of a disaster of a collective implosion out there....so really I'd be shocked if Tallet went back into the rotation for anyone other than Eveland at this point. I know people are worried about Cito's stubborness but that's probably an irrational fear. And if Rzepczynski beats Tallet back like it looks like he will now, I'm not sure we have to worry about Tallet in the rotation whatsoever, even for Eveland.

As for EE - I just read some blurb somewhere in which Cito's comments were starting to sound a wee bit annoyed and frustrated with EE's lingering mystery shoulder problem, and he went out of his way to acknowledge how well both Lewis and Bautista were playing when talking about where EE fit in. Doesn't sound like he's too impressed with EE's attitude, and I'm not sure he thinks that EE is an upgrade anywhere if Fred and Jose keep playing like they're playing.

At this point, IJose and Fred are really starting to convince me that they're players, and given EE's defensive problems I right now I see the best fit for him challenging Overbay for playing time at first (I think EE could be a plus defender over there), maybe in a platoon, or maybe outright.

Chuck - Thursday, May 06 2010 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#214735) #

It's hard to believe that this is just them being "hot", when many if not most of them have been pretty "cold" overall so far.

Just last season, the team was in first place after 46 games. It's a loooooong season.

andrewkw - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 06:39 AM EDT (#214736) #
I'm not surprised about the jays being at the bottom of promotions. I was just cleaning my collection of giveaway stuff missing the old days. Jut one bobblehead and nothing else remotely exciting.

Remember the Delgado rubber ducky? Chacin colonge. Roy bendable doll? Hentgen pez dispenser, or Kerry Lightenburg dispenser for that matter. They seem to only want to bring people in with a winning team which is nice and all but I'd still like cool stuff to add to my collection. More bobbleheads would be nice. Maybe they could have done replica silver slugger awards for Lind and Hill. I'm sure people out there have all kinds of neat ideas. Gregg goggles day?

As for most surprising team I'd say it's Baltimore. They just shouldn't be this bad. Most surprisng fact is the rays have scored more then double the amount of runs as the astros. At least as of last week it. Everyone knew the astros would be bad but their offense is beyond bad.
AWeb - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 09:50 AM EDT (#214737) #

I'm sure others have come up with estimates, but one of my main concerns for the Jays is that their starters may not be able to last the whole year even if they don't get injured. Counting the minors in 2009, Morrow ptiched about 120 innings, Eveland 170, Marcum 15 in 2009 and 160 the year before, Romero 180, Cecil 140. Tallet threw 150 last year, so in my view is likely to be pushed into the rotation again later this year even without injury. There are lots of arms, but who takes the innings in September if the Jays shut down a few of the young guys for the year? Most of the candidates are also young and racking up innings in the minors right now.

Given this, I don't think having a few guys ending up in the pen during the year would be the worst thing - unless this team is still contending in August, the organization should be limiting innings for several guys. Either you are building for the future, or you aren't.

Also, go Dana Eveland, more walks than strikeouts, ERA under 4.00. The Jays are a little bit more surprising every day - it might not be the hard part of the schedule, but like many fans, I assumed the Jays would struggle to beat most teams. 5 game winning streak is the best in baseball right now (of course, the three-way tie for second best at 4 games in a row are all in the division, sigh).

Dewey - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#214739) #
Talking about innings pitched, Robin Roberts died recently.  Bob Ryan's column at the site below comments on his remarkable durabilty and excellence.  Worth a look.

  http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/bob_ryan_blog/2010/05/farewell_to_a_b.html
Mike Green - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#214742) #
AWeb, Zep, Litsch and Mills are likely to be available to take some starts. 

Eveland's season has the opposite character of his career.  For his career, he has an ERA of 5.34 with a FIP of 4.37 and an xFIP of 4.71 and a BABIP of .339.  This year, his BABIP so far is .277.  You'd expect the BABIP  and ERA to rise but probably not to his career norms.  He might go all Kirk Rueter on us, youneverknow.

John Northey - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 11:35 AM EDT (#214743) #
The general rule is increasing by 30 over your peak up to 25 or so, then it is just whatever works.

If they throw 6 innings a start over 33 starts = 198 innings
7 per start over 33 = 231 innings

Limits per guy...
Safe for season...
Marcum: 198 1/3 innings (in 2008 he threw 17 in AA/AAA)
Romero: 208 innings
Eveland: 219 innings (in 2008 had minors innings)

Need a break at some point...
Cecil: 172 1/3 innings
Morrow: 154 innings

Good news is we have a lot of guys who will have innings late in the season - Litsch, Rzep, McGowan (if healthy), and some AAA/AA guys might have some arm strength left too.

So we have 2 slots to worry about, Cecil & Morrow. The other 3... if they hit their limits we'll all be jumping for joy.
bpoz - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 11:43 AM EDT (#214744) #
Aweb I have thought of it too. I think Ricky is good for 210, then the returning injured Zep (to end of season), 2 more in Litch and Richmond (maybe 80-120 IP total), Tallet if he is still here, McGowan? (0 IP for 2009 & 2010 would be bad/still hopeful), a whole bunch of relievers that are on the 40 man roster can be brought up and do 2 innings each (sorry I was desperate). But yeah I absolutely would not mess with anyones health.
ayjackson - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 12:02 PM EDT (#214745) #

It's odd that it feels this good to be going into a weekend series with Marcum, Cecil and Romero slated to be toeing the rubber.  And Danks behind us and a win in the books.

uglyone - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#214747) #

 

  • RAYS:  .772ops, .910ops/risp, 6.00r/g
  • JAYS: .770ops, .732ops/risp, 4.73r/g

 

  • RAYS: .654oops, .558ops/risp, 3.04ra/g
  • JAYS: .679oops, .770oops/risp, 4.17ra/g

 

One of those teams seems to be due for a course correction, and maybe surprisingly, it ain't the Jays.

MatO - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 01:46 PM EDT (#214748) #
Love the acronym for Oppostion OPS.   "OOPS"
viktor_haag - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#214749) #
I agree; it's totally possible that the schedule has inflated the Jays' results. Their winning series so far this year come against: BAL, TEX, KC, OAK, CLE. Not exactly a panoply of stiff opposition there.

By contrast, their losing series: CWS (tie), LAA (a sweep, no less), TB, BOS.

The Jays are in the bottom third in baseball in roster AVG and OBP, despite leading the league with the long ball.

Their pitching has been above average, but not remarkable (although, perhaps relatively remarkable).

Enjoy it while it lasts, folks -- it's a long season, and it seems more likely to me that progressively tired arms, hitting slumps and/or injuries, and the back-end-loaded in-division schedule will come-a-callin', like they do every year, and the Jays will settle into fourth place as was generally projected.

(In the meantime, the jays games are mostly enjoyable to watch, and expectations are modest, so those are both plusses.)
Mick Doherty - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 06:52 PM EDT (#214773) #

... it's totally possible that the schedule has inflated the Jays' results. Their winning series so far this year come against: BAL, TEX, KC, OAK, CLE. Not exactly a panoply of stiff opposition there. By contrast, their losing series: CWS (tie), LAA (a sweep, no less), TB, BOS.

Hang on Viktor ... you might want to back off your generalizations a bit.

TEX and OAK are tied for first place, several steps ahead of their division rivals LAA.  BAL, KC and CLE are down, true, but two of the five series wins so far ARE against division leaders (of admittedly the weakest division in MLB). TB is off to a great start, but BOS is in fourth while CWS is in (again admittedly, a weak) third.

The Jays' schedule has been perhaps just a notch below average, but not nearly as negatively as the picture you paint.

bpoz - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 07:28 PM EDT (#214775) #
TB beat us badly in game 2&3. Bsox total run differential was 4. LAA scores 5-7, 6-3, 3-1. Still we only got 1 win in 9 games against traditionally strong teams. Last year was bad too and also in inter-league games. I am going to judge the rebuilding phase towards 96 wins that AA wants using these opponents as the biggest progress report.
Alex Obal - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 07:39 PM EDT (#214777) #
This is how I conceptualize strength of schedule.

First division: Rays, Yankees, Red Sox
Second division: Twins, Angels (historically at least), maybe Rangers
Third division: Everybody else except Royals
Fourth division: currently empty
Fifth division: currently empty
Sixth division: Royals
Mick Doherty - Friday, May 07 2010 @ 07:58 PM EDT (#214778) #

Third division: Everybody else except Royals

AO, the people of Charm City (Baltimore) thank you for you generosity.

Alex Obal - Saturday, May 08 2010 @ 03:45 AM EDT (#214787) #
They play first-division teams so often it's hard to bump them any lower unless they start 2-13 or something.
bpoz - Saturday, May 08 2010 @ 09:40 AM EDT (#214793) #
Alex O your opinion looks good. If by some miracle the Jays slid in at the back of your 1st division (4th), do we get a prize? Never mind !! With 18 games played against each other in your own division are there enough wins available for a good team to look good ? Twins could win 100+ games the easy way?
Gerry - Saturday, May 08 2010 @ 09:58 AM EDT (#214794) #

Buster Olney weighs in on the Blue Jays today:

The latest example of why realignment needs to happen: The 2010 Toronto Blue Jays. The interest in the franchise is withering, and with the Rays and Yankees crushing opponents, it's hard to imagine folks in Toronto will look at the Jays as a serious contender at any time this season. That's too bad, because the Jays have gotten off to a good start, and certainly would be good enough to be the front-runner in the AL West; if only there was a different alignment of teams, the Blue Jays -- who have the ninth-best starting pitching ERA in the majors -- would be looked at as a playoff candidate.

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