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I take it as an article of faith that if I really pay attention, every time I see a major league game I'll see something I've never seen before.

Sometimes it's easy to know - I was in the house last Friday, and I've never seen so many hardened and cynical professionals laughing at the efforts of the highly paid athletes on the field (along with the predictable grumbling that it's almost nine o'clock and we're only in the third inning...)

And sometimes we see things we never expected to see. John Buck hitting three home runs. Alex Gonzalez and Jose Bautista both on pace for 40 - that's right, 40 - homer seasons. It is extremely, extremely unlikely that they will maintain this, but that's where we are. Early days, of course.

Nobody knows anything. At the beginning of the season, you may recall, we did our best to anticipate what might transpire this season. Among the questions we all grappled with was this:

Will Cito do the right thing and NOT platoon (future superstar) Travis Snider?

It probably should be noted that Gaston had already said Snider would not be platooned, which was my own cop-out of a response. Anyway....

Obal said Snider would pulverize the league in April and render the whole question moot. That missed the mark by a fair bit - Snider had an awful April (11-71,  .155) and I'm pretty sure that if anyone possessed that information they would have said without hesitation that the kid would either be benched or sent to AAA. Luckily, none of us were put to that particular test, although I was asking rather loudly just how long the team was supposed to put up with it. Until it stopped, as it turned out...

As for the rest of us...

Gerry said "No, he probably will platoon Snider..."
Braden said "Unfortunately I doubt it..."
#2JB said "Probably not."
WillRain said "No he won't"
Matthew said he wouldn't be surprised if Snider didn't play at all.

Here are your 2010 Blue Jays against LHP. This is not recommended for the faint of heart.


NAME           GP  AB  R  H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO SB CS BAVG   OBP  SLG  OPS
Fred Lewis  13  22  3  9  4  0  0 13  4  1  8  1  2 .409  .435 .591 1.026
Travis Snider  11  20  4  7  3  0  0 10  1  2  7  0  1 .350  .409 .500  .909
John Buck  9  18  4  6  2  0  3 17  6  0  7  0  0 .333  .333 .944 1.278
Mike McCoy      8  12  4  3  1  0  0  4  0  3  2  2  1 .250  .400 .333  .733
Vernon Wells   19  32  1  7  1  0  1 11  3  6  4  0  0 .219  .342 .344  .686
Jose Bautista  13  27  2  5  2  0  0  7  2  3  7  0  0 .185  .258 .259  .517
Randy Ruiz      6  17  2  3  1  0  0  4  0  0  6  1  0 .176  .176 .235  .412
John McDonald   6  13  1  2  2  0  0  4  0  0  1  0  0 .154  .154 .308  .462
E. Encarnacion  4  7  2  1  0  0  0  1  0  2  3  0  0 .143  .333 .143  .476
Lyle Overbay  20  36  2  5  0  0  1  8  3  0  8  0  0 .139  .139 .222  .361
Adam Lind  22  39  1  5  1  0  0  6  3  3 16  0  0 .128  .190 .154  .344
Alex Gonzalez  15  35  0  4  3  0  0  7  2  0 14  0  0 .114  .114 .200  .314
Jose Molina  6  12  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  1  3  0  0 .083  .154 .083  .237
Aaron Hill  13  20  0  1  0  0  0  1  0  6  4  0  0 .050 .269 .050  .319
Jeremy Reed  2  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  1  0  0  0 .000 1.000 .000 1.000
Totals  28 310 26 59 20  0  5 94  24 28 90  4  4 .190  .257 .303  .560

That's not a platoon - he was spotted in and out against LH while he was struggling early on. But so far, he and Lewis have been the only guys on the team who seem able to hit the sinister fellows. And John Buck, of course. And yes - as bad as Lyle Overbay has been against southpaws, Adam Lind has been worse.

Which brings me to the strange case of Jose Bautista. I seem to recall a pre-season consensus that Gaston's plan to have Bautsta lead off and play RF every day was - how shall I put this -  the opposite of wise. Indeed, Gaston himself ended up moving Bautista lower in the order once Fred Lewis arrived, and in the absence of Encarnacion he's played much more often at third base than right field. But he has played every day, at any rate.

Now the issue with Bautista, as I recall, was that while he might make part of a useful platoon, he simply doesn't hit RHP well enough to play a corner outfield spot. And while it's still early days, here he is hitting .185 against LHP and .250 (with all 10 of his HRs) against RHP.

Early days, I realize, and we should pay much more attention to what the man has done over the course of his career rather than the last five weeks. I entirely agree. And these are the lines everyone has been looking at:

Split           G    PA   AB  H  2B 3B HR RBI SB CS  BB SO  BAVG  OBP  SLG  OPS  TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+
vs RHP as RHB 523  1548 1337 306 70  5 42 171 13  7 163 338 .229 .320 .383 .703 512  41 21  15 12  4  9  .272  91
vs LHP as RHB 273   654  556 145 29  4 26  68  4  3  78 131 .261 .355 .468 .823 260  14  7  7  6  5  8  .294  122

But here's where it actually gets interesting. The next two lines give Bautista's career numbers in games started by LH (regardless of who came in to pitch later) and games started by RH (ditto.) Ponder this, me hearties...

Split           G GS   PA   AB   R    H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS  BB  SO BAVG  OBP  SLG  OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+
vs LH Starter 207 192  816  692  94 156 37  4 23  75  6  3  90 178 .225 .320 .390 .710 270 18  11 13 10  2  5  .265  93
vs RH Starter 406 302 1386 1201 170 295 62  5 45 164 11  7 151 291 .246 .336 .418 .754 502 37  17  9  8  7  12  .286  104

That's right. Over the course of his career, Bautista has been a more productive hitter in games started by RHP - despite his platoon splits. Go figure...

Well, one explanation is that he would get the start against a LHP, and then be utterly overwhelmed by the RH relievers who would eventually arrive on the scene. Or he was being sent in to pinch-hit against the LH starter, and the opposing manager would simply go to the bullpen. Bautista's career numbers as a pinch hitter are pretty horrible (7-49). As I've been saying, pinch hitting for the most part is a dying strategy because it's the defensive manager now who has all the options (arms in the pen.)

Furthermore, Bautista is a career .191 hitter (80-411) after the eighth inning. That is when the relief aces, most of whom are right-handed, show up for duty. But perhaps he's able to cope with the regular RH pitchers who populate most starting rotations.

So far so good, anyway.

 

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Chuck - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 08:46 AM EDT (#215143) #

Alex Gonzalez and Jose Bautista both on pace for 40 - that's right, 40 - homer seasons.

And, of course, so is Vernon Wells -- which might not have seemed terribly unreasonable many years ago but has to rank up there in surprise-land now. And John Buck is on pace for 40 doubles and 30 homeruns.

The team, collectively, has more extra-base hits than singles, the only team in the majors to do this. I don't have time at the moment to research the last team that fit this profile, but none spring to mind.

How the offense is functioning, at the team level, is truly unusual. The team ISO is around .220.

Add in Magpie's observations about the lefty-killers not killing lefties and the weirdness just mounts.

John Northey - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 09:12 AM EDT (#215144) #
Good old 'small sample size'.

Who'd have said preseason...
  • Vernon Wells would lead in batting average on the Jays, followed by Fred Lewis, Buck, Gonzalez AND that the Jays would be above 500 at the same time.
  • Wells would also lead in OBP followed by Bautista
  • Wells & Buck would slug over 600 while Gonzalez and Bautista are over 500, and Lind, Hill, and Overbay would be sub-400
  • That 6 of our 9 regulars would have an OPS+ over 120, while 3 would be 92 or less with those 3 being Lind/Hill/Overbay.
  • That John McDonald would have more plate appearances than Ruiz at this stage with Ruiz on the roster still, plus Ruiz having an OPS+ of 12 (and still being on the roster)
  • That our staff would have 5 guys over 130 in ERA+ (Gregg/Camp/Marcum/Romero/Downs - no major shocks), while everyone else would be sub-100.
  • That the team would be playing 579 ball, ahead of the Red Sox and just 4 behind Tampa (3 behind the Yanks) with an OPS+ of 112 and ERA+ of 96.
  • The Jays would lead in Home Runs by 10 over everyone in the AL, have 12 more doubles, 3rd in scoring, highest strikeouts, highest slugging percentage, best in league for not grounding into double plays, have just 2 sac bunts (OK, that was predictable), and be #1 in intentional walks gained.
  • That the Jays would be #1 in pitcher strikeouts and in pitchers beaning guys and in wild pitches and #3 in SO/BB ratio despite no Halladay.
  • In the no shock, Halladay has more complete games than any AL team and is tied with Florida for most in the NL while having a crazy 269 ERA+ (1.59 ERA)
Weird start. Fun, but not what we expected.
Mike Green - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 09:39 AM EDT (#215146) #
It looks like the club as a whole is uppercutting.  Here are the relevant team numbers. Lowest GB% in the majors, second highest K rate, low LD rate, high pop-up rate and highest HR/fly rate.  The BABIP of .271 is not an accident. Usually a club will have one or two hitters in the lineup who lack power.  This club does not. In the meanwhile, it would probably be more sustainable if Aaron Hill and Adam Lind were hitting a few more line drives (and reaching base 36% of the time) while Alex Gonzalez and John Buck returned to earth.  That may yet happen. 
Gerry - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 09:50 AM EDT (#215148) #

Brandon Morrow was much better yesterday although not perfect.  What was interesting to me was pitch selection, Morrow mixed his pitches better than he has in any start this season.

Morrow's last good start was April 30th against Oakland.  In that start he threw 14 change-ups and 15 curveballs to go with his core fastball, slider offerings.

On May 5th against Cleveland Morrow threw 72% fastballs, 27% sliders and one curveball.

Last week against Boston, Morrow threw 2 change-ups and one curveball, the rest were fastballs and sliders.

Yesterday Morrow was only 43% fastballs.  He only threw 7 sliders.  Morrow threw 22 change-ups and 18 curveballs.  There was one inning where Morrow didn't throw a fastball.  That variety worked yesterday and Morrow appears to pitch better when he uses all of his pitches, not just his fastball and slider.

China fan - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 10:03 AM EDT (#215150) #
John Northey, the Jays are actually now playing .590 ball, and are only 2 games behind the Yankees (and 2 games out of a Wild Card spot).   It's even weirder than you thought.
Mike Green - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 10:04 AM EDT (#215151) #
Blair's piece in the Globe and Mail today focused on Buck's pitch selection for Morrow and some mechanical adjustments made at the urging of Marcum and Walton.  The reduced number of fastballs was definitely a conscious decision on the part of the brain trust. 
John Northey - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 10:15 AM EDT (#215152) #
Huh. Guess B-R was a bit behind this morning.

Wouldn't that be fun - Jays and Tampa make the playoffs while the Red Sox and Yankees finish 3rd and 4th. Ah the early part of the season, when one can dream the impossible dream. Jays, please try not to wake me up from this dream for as long as possible.

Who knows, if the Jays play over 500 all season Cito just might get that manager of the year award right at the end. Wouldn't that be funny. Of course, May 31st to June 10th will tell the tale as the Jays play 6 vs Tampa and 3 vs NYY (after a brief rest vs Baltimore). The next really tough stretch (more than 1 series in a row vs the killers) is August 2nd to 12 when the Jays play all 3 in a row (NYY, Rays, Red Sox) followed shortly after (Aug 20th) by Boston/NYY/Detroit/Tampa/NYY/Texas (phew)/Tampa/Baltimore (phew)/Boston to get us up to September 19th.

Y'know, I think I know what the ugliest stretch of the year will be :P
uglyone - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 10:25 AM EDT (#215154) #

In regards to "small sample size", I think we may have a bigger sample than we think when it comes to Bautista.

Because it was last August that Cito made Bautista a full-time non-platoon starter against both RHP and LHP for the first time in his career. August 20th, to be precise.

And this is what Jose has done since August 20th of last year - i.e. what Jose has done ever since he became a full-time starting player for the first time in his career (I'm pretty sure I added up the number correctly):

J.Bautista: 285ab, 20hr, 54rbi, .249avg, .358obp, .530slg, .888ops

Still not a huge sample size.....but at least it's more of a "half-season sample" than a "quarter-season sample".....a half season sample of Bautista hitting at a 40+hr/100+rbi near .900ops level.

That's pretty good.

 

John Northey - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 11:45 AM EDT (#215157) #
Cito is good at getting old vets to do something it seems.

Back in 1991 Candy Maldonado was slowing down then came here and had 2 of his 3 best seasons, left and dropped then came back for a great final kick in '95.

He doesn't always make this happen (cough...Millar...cough) but when it happens it does stand out. Lewis is looking like that too right now (doubt it'll last, but who knows). There is a talent in getting guys able to play their best. If I was the Mets or someone like that who has vets but no results I'd be chasing Cito down this winter and convincing him to take a shot at the playoffs. Still have no idea why no one would give him a shot during that lost decade as there were a few veteran teams that could've used him. Guess his requiring them to treat him like TLR - namely give him the job without interviews beyond a phone call asking if he was interested and price range - must have killed it.
AWeb - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 12:42 PM EDT (#215160) #
Yesterday Morrow was only 43% fastballs.  He only threw 7 sliders.  Morrow threw 22 change-ups and 18 curveballs.  There was one inning where Morrow didn't throw a fastball.  That variety worked yesterday and Morrow appears to pitch better when he uses all of his pitches, not just his fastball and slider.

That's a Marcum approach to the game if I ever heard it - throw as many different pitches as often as possible. Even a top-flight fastball (Morrow's 94mph average seems to qualify, being a top-ten starter FB speed) won't be effective - fangraphs has it at a negative value compared to an average fastball - until hitters are looking for something else. It's always tempting to fall into the "don't get beat with your second-best pitch" mentality, but pitching, as opposed to throwing, requires that you take the chance. Hopefully Marcum's talent for mixing pitches will rub off on everyone - his average fastball is literally slower than Morrow's average changeup, but that somehow doesn't seem to matter when he's healthy.
Magpie - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 12:59 PM EDT (#215161) #
Still have no idea why no one would give him a shot

No connections, no network. His personal network within the game basically consisted of just two guys - Henry Aaron and Bobby Cox.
Magpie - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 01:04 PM EDT (#215162) #
Gaston did do interviews for a while. It got him nowhere - as anyone who's ever heard him deal with the press would already suspect, Gaston does not do an impressive interview. He eventually stopped doing them - he was beginning to suspect that he was only getting interviewed just so teams could say they had indeed considered a minority candidate.
Mick Doherty - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 01:47 PM EDT (#215167) #

Texas (phew)/

Careful, Northey. Don't assume too much after one series ... the Rangers ARE in first place right now. Weaker division, yes. Are they as good as the Blue Jays? Probably not. But hardly a "phew" team ...

Alex Obal - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 02:04 PM EDT (#215169) #
The team, collectively, has more extra-base hits than singles, the only team in the majors to do this. I don't have time at the moment to research the last team that fit this profile, but none spring to mind.

Three of the overachievers who are to blame for this - Buck, Gonzalez, Wells - fit a certain profile. They're hacking veterans with awful K/BB numbers, big power and bad recent performance. I'm wondering if a team with Gaston as its head Batting Philosophizer is actually the ideal situation for these guys, and thus exploits a market inefficiency. The approach Gaston favors, according to Rance Mulliniks, is looking for one pitch in one spot and killing it when it comes. I figure that suits Buck, Gonzalez and Wells much better than telling them to work the count or put the ball in play. Take advantage of what they can do, right.

Bautista, of course, is the exception. He was doing fine as a super-patient Oakland type hitter, especially against lefties, before the transformation hit.

Kevin Slowey is a strike thrower. His superpower is fastball location. How he approaches the Jays' lineup will be a good indicator of whether the book is out yet.
westcoast dude - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#215171) #

Bautista swings like Joe DiMaggio, so 40 home runs would not surprise--but 50 might.  When you're hot, you're hot.  It's the bottom half of the lineup that is impressive--Gonzalez, Bautista, Buck and Snider are just plain nasty.  It would be fun to watch Doc try to weave his way through this lineup minefield in late October--and it could happen.   Pass the Kool-Aid.

The little rough patches in April seem like ancient history already.

John Northey - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 02:30 PM EDT (#215174) #
True about Texas, but compared to the Yankees, Boston, Tampa and Detroit they do rank as a phew. That is one heck of a tough stretch when Texas is a break in your schedule.
Alex Obal - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 02:32 PM EDT (#215175) #
Well, one explanation is that he would get the start against a LHP, and then be utterly overwhelmed by the RH relievers who would eventually arrive on the scene. Or he was being sent in to pinch-hit against the LH starter, and the opposing manager would simply go to the bullpen

But Bautista only came off the bench in 15 of his 207 games played against a LHP, as opposed to 104 of 406 against a RHP. My guess would be that his numbers in RHP starter games are inflated by a large number of pinch-hit PAs against the Mike Myerses and Scott Schoeneweises of the world - lefty specialists who, as submariners or sinker/slider guys or whatever, are so utterly horrible agaist RH batters that you'd be stupid not to pinch-hit one.
Ryan Day - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#215176) #
Three of the overachievers who are to blame for this - Buck, Gonzalez, Wells - fit a certain profile. They're hacking veterans with awful K/BB numbers

I don't think Wells has ever had awful k/bb numbers; he's never been particularly patient, but he also doesn't strike out a ton. His 15/28 rate this year is in line with the rest of his career.

But Buck and Gonzalez... I don't understand why anyone ever throws them a ball in the strike zone, given their willingness - eagerness, even - to swing at any baseball-shaped object to come within a metre of the plate.
Alex Obal - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 03:24 PM EDT (#215181) #
Yeah, that's true about Wells.

The 'bounce everything' approach to the hackers is how Colby Lewis beat himself yesterday. With a one-run lead, two runners on, and Morrow dealing, he pitched around Gonzalez and Bautista, and eventually backed himself into a full count with the bases loaded against Buck. It probably works a lot better when the bases are empty.

Magpie - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 04:26 PM EDT (#215192) #
My guess would be that his numbers in RHP starter games are inflated by a large number of pinch-hit PAs

Which would make sense if it weren't for that 7-49 career mark as a pinch-hitter.

It's a mystery!
Magpie - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 04:31 PM EDT (#215193) #
Three of the overachievers who are to blame for this - Buck, Gonzalez, Wells - fit a certain profile.

The three guys who are most surprising are Buck, Gonzalez, and Bautista - Wells has done this before. Now I've always believed, without an iota of evidence, that the local Dome gives a real boost to a certain type of RH batter - free-swinging guys with decent but not great power. Maybe there's a little wind tunnel down the LF line or something. Anyway, I'd like to say these three guys demonstrate this notion of mine. But I can't - they're doing the same thing on the road.
Alex Obal - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#215195) #
I noticed (really!) that you mentioned it was a bad mark, but I didn't realize it was in such a small number of PA! As an NL player he probably got a lot of pinch-hit appearances against RHP too. But seven pinch hits is a really small number, even if he went 7-7 with 7 homers and 33 walks against Dennys Reyes and 0-42 against Chad Bradford. So.

Maybe he came in as a defensive replacement or double switch, with the team ahead and faced bad or disinterested pitchers? That's a lot of games to appear in off the bench with so few pinch-hit opportunities, when you're not John McDonald.
Mick Doherty - Monday, May 17 2010 @ 05:18 PM EDT (#215200) #

It's a mystery!

C'mon, Mags. Can't you go a single thread without invoking Shakespeare In Love? ;-)

China fan - Tuesday, May 18 2010 @ 02:10 AM EDT (#215220) #
Maybe he's invoking A Serious Man:  "Accept the mystery."  (You have to know the context, but it was one of the funniest lines of 2009 films.)
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