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If it's true that you can never have enough pitching, it's probably also true that you can never have enough money.


Here's a silly waste of time. According to my count, the Toronto Blue Jays had already given at least 68 different pitchers more than $1,000,000 to work for them. Some of these men needed almost fifteen years to collect all that coin, some needed just a month or two.

(This season, Ricky Romero, Frank Francisco, John Rauch, and Octavio Dotel join the group.)

Who they were, how they did, and how much loot they walked away with.

                 G   IP    W  L SV ERA    $$$$$

1 Halladay 313 2440.2 148 76 1 3.27 88 991,666
2 Ryan 155 155.1 5 9 75 2.95 47,000,000
3 Burnett 81 522.2 38 26 0 3.94 28,600,000
4 Hentgen 270 1636.0 107 85 0 4.28 21,891,500
5 Hamilton 50 253.1 14 17 0 5.83 17,000,000
6 Clemens 67 498.2 41 13 0 2.33 16,950,000
7 Guzman 195 1215.2 76 62 0 4.07 15,882,000
8 Ward 452 650.2 32 36 121 3.18 15,873,500
9 Stieb 443 2985.1 176 137 3 3.44 15,440,000
10 Wells 306 1148.2 84 55 13 4.06 13,643,667
11 Downs 347 407.2 20 18 16 3.13 11,730,000
12 Loaiza 75 433.1 25 28 0 4.96 10,300,000
13 Morris 61 393.1 28 18 0 4.87 9,875,000
14 Hanson 49 278.2 13 20 0 5.68 9,399,999
15 Lilly 89 505.1 37 34 0 4.52 9,000,000
16 Stewart 48 295.1 19 16 0 5.09 8,550,000
17 Batista 109 273.1 15 21 36 4.61 8,350,000
18 Plesac 262 181.2 11 17 6 4.21 7,500,000
19 Key 317 1695.2 116 81 10 3.42 7,186,699
20 Henke 446 563.0 29 29 217 2.48 6,840,334
21 Sirotka 0 0.0 0 0 0 0.00 6,800,000
22 Frasor 411 418.2 22 27 36 3.76 6,741,500
23 Quantrill 386 517.2 30 34 15 3.67 6,725,000
24 Stottlemyre 206 1139.0 69 70 1 4.39 6,508,500
25 Towers 108 558.1 37 42 1 4.93 5,898,000
26 Speier 185 187.0 8 10 7 3.18 5,750,000
27 Lidle 31 192.2 12 15 0 5.75 5,350,000
28 Carpenter 152 870.2 49 50 0 4.83 5,264,999
29 Schoeneweis 135 94.1 5 6 2 4.58 5,250,000
30 Escobar 301 849.0 58 55 58 4.58 5,020,000
31 Cone 25 183.1 13 9 0 3.14 4,800,000
32 Caudill 107 105.2 6 10 16 4.09 4,496,666
33 Clancy 352 2204.2 128 140 1 4.10 4,459,000
34 Tallet 214 411.0 15 21 0 4.71 3,982,000
35 Dayley 10 5.0 0 0 0 5.40 3,783,333
36 Timlin 305 393.1 23 22 52 3.62 3,529,000
37 Myers 41 42.1 3 4 28 4.46 2,959,167
38 Borbon 146 107.2 4 7 1 4.93 2,630,000
39 Williams 166 613.1 28 34 0 4.30 2,561,500
40 Cox 78 147.1 9 10 5 4.21 2,159,000
41 Marcum 120 592.0 37 25 1 3.85 2,043,800
42 Castillo 218 296.1 13 13 16 3.49 2,014,500
43 Leiter 91 415.1 26 24 2 4.20 2,007,500
44 Gregg 63 59.0 2 6 37 3.51 2,000,000
45 Ligtenberg 57 55.0 1 6 3 6.38 2,000,000
46 Camp 169 191.1 9 10 3 3.43 1,900,000
47 Painter 52 85.0 2 1 0 5.40 1,900,000
48 Accardo 138 139.2 5 9 35 3.67 1,894,000
49 Heredia 53 52.1 1 2 0 3.61 1,850,000
50 Eichhorn 279 493.0 29 19 15 3.03 1,639,500
51 Cerutti 191 772.1 46 37 2 3.87 1,614,500
52 Risley 72 100.2 3 6 0 4.83 1,595,000
53 Alexander 106 750.0 46 26 0 3.56 1,575,000
54 Ohka 10 56.0 2 5 0 5.79 1,500,000
55 Walker 124 308.2 19 14 4 4.32 1,475,000
56 Flanagan 76 452.1 26 27 0 3.94 1,375,000
57 League 168 202.1 7 10 2 4.09 1,356,000
58 McGowan 75 353.2 20 22 0 4.71 1,323,500
59 Koch 193 211.2 11 13 100 3.57 1,266,666
60 Candiotti 19 129.2 6 7 0 2.98 1,250,000
61 Litsch 60 342.2 21 24 0 4.10 1,224,900
62 Adams 42 43.0 4 4 3 3.98 1,105,000
63 Janssen 166 275.1 15 19 7 4.12 1,095,000
64 Lamp 149 263.2 21 14 13 4.20 1,083,334
65 Lavelle 92 100.1 7 10 9 3.77 1,070,833
66 Chacin 58 331.2 25 15 0 4.15 1,058,000
67 Lloyd 74 72.0 5 3 3 3.63 1,025,000
68 Sturtze 40 89.1 7 6 0 5.94 1,000,000


Inflation, boy!

You know, it's possible that some of these guys provided a better return on the investment than others...
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Flex - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 06:34 AM EDT (#238425) #
Wow, Terry Adams. There's a name that left no impression whatsoever on my consciousness. He alone of all these names I had to look up.

It's good to see that Halladay is so far removed from every other pitcher on this list. Not so good in fact a kind of outrage to see BJ Ryan second.
Parker - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 08:33 AM EDT (#238427) #
Shouldergate Sirotka sure provided good value for the money.

Kerry Ligtenberg, too.
Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 08:36 AM EDT (#238428) #
He who shall not be named is named.  Did the Dome Inhabitants Salary Disclosure Act pass without me noticing?  I must be getting old.
Matthew E - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 09:07 AM EDT (#238430) #
It certainly is an interesting list. How easy would it be to add two columns to it: number of seasons over which they earned that money, and average salary per season? Makes it easier to compare apples to apples. (Of course, part of the charm of the list is that it's not broken down like that; arranged my way, it might be more informative but less interesting.)
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 09:15 AM EDT (#238431) #
Inflation, boy!

Interesting stuff. One quick & dirty way to get a handle on the affect of salary inflation would be to include % of total team payroll (or % of total pitching payroll) paid out to the player during his time in Toronto. If that's something your database can easily spit out. And of course ERA+ would be nice for comparing across eras.
92-93 - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 10:16 AM EDT (#238434) #
Chuck - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#238437) #

Enough already with the Toronto Sun.

Forkball - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:04 AM EDT (#238440) #
Just looking at BJ Ryan that seems low.  I'm guessing it probably doesn't include the last year when he wasn't on the team or getting paid.  Or perhaps it's not picking up bonus money?

Either way, it's amazing that he's 2nd on the list all time.

Magpie - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:08 AM EDT (#238441) #
I think this franchise has spent way, way too much money on LH relief pitchers! The LaRussa Syndrome...

Not just Ryan (although - whoa!) Scott Schoeneweis? I'd pretty much completely forgotten about Felix Heredia. I only remember Pedro Borbon when I remember David Eckstein's two slams in two days. Gary Lavelle even made the cut.
Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#238443) #
Anthopoulos has certainly added something new, spending way too much on right-handed relief pitchers.
ayjackson - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:36 AM EDT (#238445) #
I think Romero joined the club the day he signed in 2006.
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#238446) #
So what are the 10 worst pitching contracts handed out by the Blue Jays, in terms of dollars spent vs. performance delivered?

Here's a stab at it:


	GM	G	IP	ERA	M$
Ryan	JP	155	155	2.95	47.0
Sirotka	Ash	0	0	-	6.8
Hamiltn	Ash	50	253	5.83	17.0
Dayley	Gillick	10	5	5.40	3.8
Hanson	Ash	49	278	5.68	9.4
Loaiza	Ash	75	433	4.96	10.3
Towers	JP	108	558	4.93	5.9
Stewart	Gillick	48	295	5.09	8.6
Morris	Gillick	61	393	4.87	9.9
Lidle	JP	31	192	5.75	5.4


Thomas - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#238450) #
To be fair to Gord Ash, he didn't hand out the Sirotka contract. He only traded for it.
hypobole - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#238452) #
Anthopoulos has certainly added something new, spending way too much on right-handed relief pitchers.

 If by "way too much", you mean market value, I agree. Plus he's kept the deals to one year.


Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#238455) #
Market value has nothing to do with it.  B.J. Ryan was paid about market value, at the time.
bpoz - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#238456) #
AA spent for the pitching received by those players as well as the opportunity/gamble for draft picks. In some cases he overpaid for what he got. I think he did OK/well for Gregg.
Chuck - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#238459) #
To be fair to Gord Ash, he didn't hand out the Sirotka contract. He only traded for it.

Except that he traded for a pitcher known to be injured. Which may even be worse.

hypobole - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:12 PM EDT (#238461) #
Market value has nothing to do with it.  B.J. Ryan was paid about market value, at the time.

So you're saying AA is overpaying for RH relievers, but also paying less than market value? 

The deals for Gregg, Dotel and Rauch were all reasonable signings with no long term risk and afforded the opportunity for draft pick compensation. I think he did rather well.  However it all boils down to what we perceive as their monetary worth. Yes they may be overpaid, but when all other clubs are signing similar relievers for as much or more, and too often for multi-years, I can't argue with these deals.


Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#238463) #
Don't forget Frankie Francisco.  It is not only free agent signings that qualify you for the wallet of shame. 
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#238468) #
For my part, in attempting a list of the 10 worst contracts I tried to ignore whether the decision to hand out the contract seemed like a good idea at the time. In every case the pitcher delivered less than could reasonably be expected.
Ducey - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#238475) #
No Carlos Delgado?
Ducey - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#238476) #
Sorry, I'm an idiot
joeblow - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#238483) #
Best ROI just from a glance looks like John Cerutti.
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