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If it's true that you can never have enough pitching, it's probably also true that you can never have enough money.


Here's a silly waste of time. According to my count, the Toronto Blue Jays had already given at least 68 different pitchers more than $1,000,000 to work for them. Some of these men needed almost fifteen years to collect all that coin, some needed just a month or two.

(This season, Ricky Romero, Frank Francisco, John Rauch, and Octavio Dotel join the group.)

Who they were, how they did, and how much loot they walked away with.

                       G      IP       W     L   SV    ERA       $$$$$

1    Halladay    313    2440.2  148    76    1    3.27   88 991,666
2    Ryan    155    155.1    5    9   75    2.95   47,000,000
3    Burnett    81    522.2   38    26    0    3.94   28,600,000
4    Hentgen    270    1636.0  107    85    0    4.28   21,891,500
5    Hamilton    50    253.1   14    17    0    5.83   17,000,000
6    Clemens    67    498.2   41    13    0    2.33   16,950,000
7    Guzman    195    1215.2   76    62    0    4.07   15,882,000
8    Ward    452    650.2   32    36  121    3.18   15,873,500
9    Stieb    443    2985.1  176   137    3    3.44   15,440,000
10    Wells    306    1148.2   84    55   13    4.06   13,643,667
11    Downs    347    407.2   20    18   16    3.13   11,730,000
12    Loaiza    75    433.1   25    28    0    4.96   10,300,000
13    Morris    61    393.1   28    18    0    4.87    9,875,000
14    Hanson    49    278.2   13    20    0    5.68    9,399,999
15    Lilly    89    505.1   37    34    0    4.52    9,000,000
16    Stewart    48    295.1   19    16    0    5.09    8,550,000
17    Batista    109    273.1   15    21   36    4.61    8,350,000
18    Plesac    262    181.2   11    17    6    4.21    7,500,000
19    Key    317    1695.2  116    81   10    3.42    7,186,699
20    Henke    446    563.0    29    29  217    2.48    6,840,334
21    Sirotka    0    0.0    0    0    0    0.00    6,800,000
22    Frasor    411    418.2    22    27   36    3.76    6,741,500
23    Quantrill    386    517.2    30    34   15    3.67    6,725,000
24    Stottlemyre    206    1139.0    69    70    1    4.39    6,508,500
25    Towers     108     558.1    37    42    1    4.93    5,898,000
26    Speier    185    187.0    8    10    7    3.18    5,750,000
27    Lidle    31    192.2    12    15    0    5.75    5,350,000
28    Carpenter    152     870.2    49    50    0    4.83    5,264,999
29    Schoeneweis    135     94.1    5    6    2    4.58    5,250,000
30    Escobar    301    849.0    58    55   58    4.58    5,020,000
31    Cone    25    183.1    13    9    0    3.14    4,800,000
32    Caudill    107    105.2    6    10   16    4.09    4,496,666
33    Clancy    352    2204.2   128   140    1    4.10    4,459,000
34    Tallet    214    411.0    15    21    0    4.71    3,982,000
35    Dayley    10    5.0     0     0    0    5.40    3,783,333
36    Timlin    305    393.1    23    22   52    3.62    3,529,000
37    Myers    41    42.1    3     4   28    4.46    2,959,167
38    Borbon    146    107.2    4   7    1    4.93    2,630,000
39    Williams    166    613.1    28    34    0    4.30    2,561,500
40    Cox    78    147.1     9    10    5    4.21    2,159,000
41    Marcum    120    592.0    37    25    1    3.85    2,043,800
42    Castillo    218    296.1    13    13   16    3.49    2,014,500
43    Leiter    91    415.1    26    24    2    4.20    2,007,500
44    Gregg     63    59.0    2    6   37    3.51    2,000,000
45    Ligtenberg     57    55.0    1    6    3    6.38    2,000,000
46    Camp    169    191.1     9    10    3    3.43    1,900,000
47    Painter    52    85.0    2    1    0    5.40    1,900,000
48    Accardo    138    139.2    5    9   35    3.67    1,894,000
49    Heredia    53    52.1    1    2    0    3.61    1,850,000
50    Eichhorn    279    493.0    29    19   15    3.03    1,639,500
51    Cerutti    191    772.1    46    37    2    3.87    1,614,500
52    Risley    72     100.2     3     6    0    4.83    1,595,000
53    Alexander    106    750.0    46    26    0    3.56    1,575,000
54    Ohka    10    56.0    2    5    0    5.79    1,500,000
55    Walker    124    308.2    19    14    4    4.32    1,475,000
56    Flanagan    76    452.1    26    27    0    3.94    1,375,000
57    League    168    202.1     7    10    2    4.09    1,356,000
58    McGowan    75    353.2    20    22    0    4.71    1,323,500
59    Koch    193    211.2    11    13  100    3.57    1,266,666
60    Candiotti    19    129.2     6     7    0    2.98    1,250,000
61    Litsch    60    342.2    21    24    0    4.10    1,224,900
62    Adams    42    43.0     4     4    3    3.98    1,105,000
63    Janssen    166    275.1    15    19    7    4.12    1,095,000
64    Lamp    149    263.2    21    14   13    4.20    1,083,334
65    Lavelle    92    100.1     7    10    9    3.77    1,070,833
66    Chacin    58    331.2    25    15    0    4.15    1,058,000
67    Lloyd    74    72.0    5    3    3    3.63    1,025,000
68    Sturtze    40    89.1     7     6    0    5.94    1,000,000


Inflation, boy!

You know, it's possible that some of these guys provided a better return on the investment than others...
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Flex - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 06:34 AM EDT (#238425) #
Wow, Terry Adams. There's a name that left no impression whatsoever on my consciousness. He alone of all these names I had to look up.

It's good to see that Halladay is so far removed from every other pitcher on this list. Not so good — in fact a kind of outrage — to see BJ Ryan second.
Parker - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 08:33 AM EDT (#238427) #
Shouldergate Sirotka sure provided good value for the money.

Kerry Ligtenberg, too.
Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 08:36 AM EDT (#238428) #
He who shall not be named is named.  Did the Dome Inhabitants Salary Disclosure Act pass without me noticing?  I must be getting old.
Matthew E - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 09:07 AM EDT (#238430) #
It certainly is an interesting list. How easy would it be to add two columns to it: number of seasons over which they earned that money, and average salary per season? Makes it easier to compare apples to apples. (Of course, part of the charm of the list is that it's not broken down like that; arranged my way, it might be more informative but less interesting.)
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 09:15 AM EDT (#238431) #
Inflation, boy!

Interesting stuff. One quick & dirty way to get a handle on the affect of salary inflation would be to include % of total team payroll (or % of total pitching payroll) paid out to the player during his time in Toronto. If that's something your database can easily spit out. And of course ERA+ would be nice for comparing across eras.
92-93 - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 10:16 AM EDT (#238434) #
Chuck - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#238437) #

Enough already with the Toronto Sun.

Forkball - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:04 AM EDT (#238440) #
Just looking at BJ Ryan that seems low.  I'm guessing it probably doesn't include the last year when he wasn't on the team or getting paid.  Or perhaps it's not picking up bonus money?

Either way, it's amazing that he's 2nd on the list all time.

Magpie - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:08 AM EDT (#238441) #
I think this franchise has spent way, way too much money on LH relief pitchers! The LaRussa Syndrome...

Not just Ryan (although - whoa!) Scott Schoeneweis? I'd pretty much completely forgotten about Felix Heredia. I only remember Pedro Borbon when I remember David Eckstein's two slams in two days. Gary Lavelle even made the cut.
Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#238443) #
Anthopoulos has certainly added something new, spending way too much on right-handed relief pitchers.
ayjackson - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 11:36 AM EDT (#238445) #
I think Romero joined the club the day he signed in 2006.
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#238446) #
So what are the 10 worst pitching contracts handed out by the Blue Jays, in terms of dollars spent vs. performance delivered?

Here's a stab at it:


	GM	G	IP	ERA	M$
Ryan	JP	155	155	2.95	47.0
Sirotka	Ash	0	0	-	6.8
Hamiltn	Ash	50	253	5.83	17.0
Dayley	Gillick	10	5	5.40	3.8
Hanson	Ash	49	278	5.68	9.4
Loaiza	Ash	75	433	4.96	10.3
Towers	JP	108	558	4.93	5.9
Stewart	Gillick	48	295	5.09	8.6
Morris	Gillick	61	393	4.87	9.9
Lidle	JP	31	192	5.75	5.4


Thomas - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#238450) #
To be fair to Gord Ash, he didn't hand out the Sirotka contract. He only traded for it.
hypobole - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#238452) #
Anthopoulos has certainly added something new, spending way too much on right-handed relief pitchers.

 If by "way too much", you mean market value, I agree. Plus he's kept the deals to one year.


Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#238455) #
Market value has nothing to do with it.  B.J. Ryan was paid about market value, at the time.
bpoz - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#238456) #
AA spent for the pitching received by those players as well as the opportunity/gamble for draft picks. In some cases he overpaid for what he got. I think he did OK/well for Gregg.
Chuck - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:08 PM EDT (#238459) #
To be fair to Gord Ash, he didn't hand out the Sirotka contract. He only traded for it.

Except that he traded for a pitcher known to be injured. Which may even be worse.

hypobole - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:12 PM EDT (#238461) #
Market value has nothing to do with it.  B.J. Ryan was paid about market value, at the time.

So you're saying AA is overpaying for RH relievers, but also paying less than market value? 

The deals for Gregg, Dotel and Rauch were all reasonable signings with no long term risk and afforded the opportunity for draft pick compensation. I think he did rather well.  However it all boils down to what we perceive as their monetary worth. Yes they may be overpaid, but when all other clubs are signing similar relievers for as much or more, and too often for multi-years, I can't argue with these deals.


Mike Green - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#238463) #
Don't forget Frankie Francisco.  It is not only free agent signings that qualify you for the wallet of shame. 
Jonny German - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#238468) #
For my part, in attempting a list of the 10 worst contracts I tried to ignore whether the decision to hand out the contract seemed like a good idea at the time. In every case the pitcher delivered less than could reasonably be expected.
Ducey - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 05:32 PM EDT (#238475) #
No Carlos Delgado?
Ducey - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 05:34 PM EDT (#238476) #
Sorry, I'm an idiot
joeblow - Monday, July 11 2011 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#238483) #
Best ROI just from a glance looks like John Cerutti.
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