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The Jays have avoided arbitration with Casey Janssen, signing the 30 year old reliever for 2 years, $5.9 million with a team option for $4 million in 2014. Janssen had been seeking $2.2 million in arbitration, the team offered $1.8; the signing also buys out one of Janssen's free agency years.

Janssen was one of the more valuable relievers in baseball in 2011, especially on a per-inning basis, finishing in the top 25 relievers in WPA despite pitching relatively few innings (55.2), and working in, on average, lower leverage situations than every pitcher ahead of him on the WPA leaderboard. WAR is not especially useful in evaluating relievers, but Janssen's fWAR and bWAR were 1.3 and 1.7 respectively, which is a pretty good year for a reliever. Janssen was also very good in 2010 after missing the entire 2008 season with a torn labrum and being injured for much of 2009. His peripherals are also strong; he compiled a 116/35 K/BB ratio and allowed only 10 home runs in 124.1 innings between 2010 and 2011. ZiPS predicts Janssen will fare similarly well in 2012.

So, is this a good deal for the Jays? I would say that it's basically fair to both parties. If we average what the Jays offered and what Janssen wanted it comes out to $2 million for 2012. So, essentially the Jays bought a year of Janssen's free agency for $3.9 million, with an additional option year (with no buyout) of $4 million. Unless he completely implodes Janssen at $2 million is a good deal for the Jays in 2012. Will Casey Janssen be worth $3.9 million in 2013? The answer is probably. He either has to be as good as he was last year, or pitch more innings, or both to make the contract worth it for the club. The market for relievers has cooled down, but $4 million a year seems to be about what players similar to Janssen were signing for this off-season: Jonathan Broxton ($4 million), Matt Capps ($4.75 million), Francisco Cordero ($4.5 million), Octavio Dotel ($3.5 million), Frank Francisco ($12 million/2 years), Latroy Hawkins ($3 million), Brad Lidge ($1 million), Darren Oliver ($4 million), Jon Rauch ($3.5 million), Kerry Wood ($3 million) and Joe Nathan ($14.5/2 years)

Two things stand out for me here. One, it seems like GMs are finally figuring out that big contracts for relievers are incredibly stupid. Only four free agent relievers signed multi-year deals, and two of those were for two years.  Two, Janssen is better, younger, significantly healthier or some combination therein than pretty much all of those pitchers. I am not sure in which world given their performance and injury history one would prefer Joe Nathan over Casey Janssen for the next two years, for example.

Still, relievers flame out all the time, and going to a second year with Janssen as opposed to year to year puts that risk on the Jays. Unless Janssen is phenomenal in 2012 the Jays probably could have signed him to a similar amount for 2013, maybe paying a slight premium over what they are currently paying. This way the club assumes the risk of Janssen becoming injured or ineffective. This is a distinct possibility, and as such I don't think that this deal can be graded as a clear win for the Blue Jays. However the changes in the CBA essentially preclude the Jays receiving any compensation for losing Janssen next year when he becomes a free agent, and if he stays healthy Janssen is likely to command on the free agent market at least what the Jays are instead paying him. As a bonus for assuming this risk the Jays pick up a free, no-buyout option year for Janssen at $4 million, and if he's halfway decent the next two years he will certainly be worth that. So, ultimately, the Jays aren't gaining much in 2013 in terms of value, and assume some injury/ineffectiveness risk, with the upside being that they lock in a potentially valuable reliever for 2014. Ultimately the deal rests on whether you think Janssen is going to get injured or perform worse. If he stays healthy it's a small win for the Jays, if he gets injured it's a small loss.

Coda: It's worth noting that the Jays have been pretty conservative in signing players to extensions under Alex Anthopoulos, but they've generally been strong moves. Jose Bautista's extension worked out swimmingly, and Yunel Escobar's was outright larceny. Ricky Romero signed for 5 years, $30.1 million before the 2011 season, and the team has one free agent year at $7.5 mil and an option at $13.1, which given his performance in 2011 very solid. Brandon Morrow's extension was similar to the Janssen one in that a lot of it depends on what you think Morrow is going to do, but I graded it as a slight positive. I'd rate that overall as very strong (update: I missed Adam Lind (essentially 3 years, $17 million for his 3 arb years plus 3 option years at ~$7 million per) and Rajai Davis (2 years $5.75 million with 1 option year at $2.5 million). In retrospect both of these were/are failures, the Lind contract somewhat defensibly and the Davis one not at all. 
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Forkball - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 01:16 PM EST (#251863) #
I think the big thing is that if Janssen is effective again in 2012, and you had only signed him for 2012 (instead of this extension), you're probably looking at him getting a three year contract offer in free agency, for at least $4MM/year that runs through 2015.

As it is with the extension, the Jays have him for 2012 and 2013, and the option of 2014 if he performs.

If he's bad this year, you're only paying him $3.9 next season which isn't going to hold the team back.

The Jays limit their exposure and Janssen pockets money that should set him up for life.  Seems like a good deal for both sides.

greenfrog - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 01:55 PM EST (#251864) #
Agreed. I like the Jays' strategy of extending key players at opportune times for a year or two into what would have been their FA years. Having options in the Escobar, Janssen and Santos deals makes them that much better (of course, Santos was extended by Ken Williams, not AA).

According to MLBTR, multiple teams are in on 19-year-old Cuban Jorge Soler. Could the Jays be one of them? The organization already has good OF depth in the minors, but it wouldn't hurt to add more, especially with the new IFA and draft constraints.
Richard S.S. - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 02:02 PM EST (#251865) #
With Santos and Litsch, Janssen becomes only the third Reliever with a guaranteed two year or longer contract on this team.   $2.0 Million was the midpoint of the Offer sheets, but $3.9 MM stumps me as why this figure was chosen (12: $2.0 MM; 13: $3.4 MM; Club Option14: $4.0 MM with 500 K buy out becomes $2.0 MM, $3.9 MM and $4.0 MM).   Still having $5.9 MM guaranteed assures Casey and his family long term security.   Good for him.   Thanks Anders. 
92-93 - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 02:08 PM EST (#251867) #

I think the big thing is that if Janssen is effective again in 2012, and you had only signed him for 2012 (instead of this extension), you're probably looking at him getting a three year contract offer in free agency, for at least $4MM/year that runs through 2015.

There wasn't even one non-closer RP this offseason who received a 2 year deal worth 4m per.


 

92-93 - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 02:14 PM EST (#251868) #
I don't think the Lind contract was defensible, I didn't like it from the start. And while Bautista's has gone swimmingly thus far it's a shame the Jays can't bank all the excess value for the future, when paying 14m to a diminishing bat and a poor OF might ultimately hurt them. Romero got Lester's extension with 2 months less service time, time the Jays could've used to make sure Romero got through the rest of the season healthy before extending him to a contract equal to that of a pitcher who'd been better than him. Penny pinchers can't afford mistakes.
Mike Green - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:18 PM EST (#251872) #
I don't understand the sum total of all the bullpen moves.  If one is comfortable (presumably) with having Janssen in a high-leverage relief role in 2013 and paying him accordingly, why would one not be comfortable with him in this role in 2012?  If so, what was the point of the Cordero and Frasor signings?   

In my view, much too much has been invested in the bullpen and not enough has been invested in the rotation and at 1B/DH.  If the answer is "we were not able to sign anybody who could help our club either on the mound or at 1B/DH although we offered a truckload of cash", my skepticism meter will be at very high.  At the beginning of the off-season, the club indicated that it felt that it could improve primarily through trades rather than through the free-agent market;  the major improvement (the acquisition of Santos) came through trade but it was insufficient. 

Chuck - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:28 PM EST (#251873) #
I am on exactly the same page as Mike. There are only so many high leverage innings to go around. A deep bullpen is nice, but seems a luxury on a team with more pressing concerns.
Anders - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:35 PM EST (#251874) #
I don't think the Lind contract was defensible, I didn't like it from the start. And while Bautista's has gone swimmingly thus far it's a shame the Jays can't bank all the excess value for the future, when paying 14m to a diminishing bat and a poor OF might ultimately hurt them. Romero got Lester's extension with 2 months less service time, time the Jays could've used to make sure Romero got through the rest of the season healthy before extending him to a contract equal to that of a pitcher who'd been better than him. Penny pinchers can't afford mistakes.

The Lind contract has not worked out well, but I don't think it was indefensible. Lind was coming off a season where he posted a .930 OPS. Yes, they didn't have to offer him a long term deal so soon, but they got the potentially huge value of three cheap option years, and given Lind's counting stats I can't imagine he would have gotten too much less in arbitration. The Romero thing is a super nitpick. As for Bautista, your point is well taken. The counterpoint is that if they signed him to a one year deal right now he would be an Angel or a Tiger at 6/125.
TamRa - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:38 PM EST (#251875) #
"With Santos and Litsch, Janssen becomes only the third Reliever with a guaranteed two year or longer contract on this team. "

Litsch does not have a multi-year deal.

92-93 - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:47 PM EST (#251877) #
I should have said "I don't think the Lind contract was indefensible, but I didn't like it from the start." I dug up my thoughts from the Lind extension post:

"I see this as a pretty fair deal for both sides, with Lind getting his long-term security and the Jays earning valuable options for when they plan on contending. I'm just not sure how valuable those options are when I see Adam Dunn's offensive consistency earn him only 10m as a 29 year old free agent - isn't it possible the market will continue to value things like defense and speed and 8m will be a 31 year old Lind's market value in 2014? That being said, there isn't much risk involved when the most you are paying him is 5m in any given year - the 2010 Jays are eating 16m in salary. However, I certainly don't see this as an "insanely good deal", and I'm rather amused that Craig B of all people was the one to make that assertion, in light of this past week's article."
greenfrog - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 03:52 PM EST (#251880) #
Mike, I think AA probably anticipates a deadline deal(s) that could include a reliever or two (possibly one or more of Frasor, Oliver, Cordero or Janssen). If this happens, the amount allocated to the bullpen could decrease significantly.
Richard S.S. - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:13 PM EST (#251881) #

...Litsch does not have a multi-year deal.

I beg to differ.   Jesse Litsch is starting his 2nd arby year with his 3rd arb year coming in 2013.   That's as close to a guaranteed contract as he can come while still under initial team contract.   If I don't mention him, someone else will point out my mistake.   By the way, I'm deliberately not including Luis Perez in the discusion.

Kelekin - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:34 PM EST (#251882) #
Neutral signing.  There's no reason not to keep Janssen for an extra year (possibly two).  That being said, can this please be the last year we have to watch Frasor?
Mark - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:37 PM EST (#251883) #
I beg to differ.

Saying he has a multi-year contract is faulty logic. If he tears his labrum do you have to pay him 1M+ next year to be on the DL or can you non tender him? Arbitration eligible player do not have long term deals no matter how you look at it, if you compare it to anything it is a series of team options to retain the player at an unknown price. But why not just call it like it is and say he is signed to a 1 year deal?

In terms of the Jays plan, what is clear is that relievers are less valued in the off-season, and more valued in the middle of the season. What I believe AA is doing is buying low on a certain type of asset that he may or may not turn into something else?  It certainly doesn't hurt the team in the short term or long term.  
Thomas - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:38 PM EST (#251884) #
And while Bautista's has gone swimmingly thus far it's a shame the Jays can't bank all the excess value for the future, when paying 14m to a diminishing bat and a poor OF might ultimately hurt them.

I have no idea what this is supposed to mean or how it is meant to be a criticism of AA.

TamRa - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:44 PM EST (#251885) #
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but that's not how ANYONE uses the word "guarantee" in relation to player contracts, because such a player can be non-tendered without financial obligation.

the word you are looking for is "team control"

Of those eight pitchers, seven of whom will surely make up the 2012 pen on opening day barring injury, only Santos, Janssen, Litsch and Perez are under team control for 2013.

But to use the term "guarantee" in reference to Litsch is inaccurate. You cannot simply re-define a word to use it differently from everyone else and insist only you are correct.
Forkball - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 04:56 PM EST (#251886) #
There wasn't even one non-closer RP this offseason who received a 2 year deal worth 4m per.

Is that a change in the philosophy of GMs or a reflection of the quality of relievers this off season?

I tend to think it's the latter, but I acknowledge that could be wrong as well.
Richard S.S. - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 06:05 PM EST (#251887) #

...In my view, much too much has been invested in the bullpen and not enough has been invested in the rotation and at 1B/DH...

As far as we know, there may have been only 2 Free Agents (possibly Oswald and Beltran), this off-season, who turned us down because of Turf.   There may have been more.   If we get a natural grass field, we may eliminate that problem.   Matt Cain, Zach Greinke, Cole Hamels are just a few Starters available next year as possible Free Agents, there are more.   Not everyone will be re-signed by their own Team, some will be traded, some will become Free Agents, and some will not want to go to NY or Boston.   I believe A.A. has his sights set on Votto, but he must make sure of Adam Lind's performance.   A.A.'s biggest problem is he doesn't know who he can trade, and evaluates his own too highly.   A.A.'s next biggest problem is what's available in AA, AAA, AAAA is small (Travis d'Arnaud, Anthony Gose, Moises Sierra, Michael McDade, Henderson Alvarez, Joel Carreno, Chad Jenkins, Chad Beck, Eric Thames, Adeiny Hechavarria, Kyle Drabeck, Travis Snider, Luis Perez) and of uncertain value.   What's available in RK-, RK+, A-, A, A+ is larger but still of uncertain value (Are you trading away a Hall Of Famer?).

ayjackson - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 06:49 PM EST (#251888) #
AA might be able to flip one of these relievers for a couple of C+ prospects like Myles Jaye and Daniel Webb at the deadline.  Wait.....what??
greenfrog - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 07:58 PM EST (#251889) #
I think the idea is that they can help facilitate a deal for a desirable player, even the reliever(s) isn't the centrepiece (as in the trades for Edwin Jackson and Colby Rasmus). Having a couple of good relievers to offer gives you more options in crafting a deal.
perlhack - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 10:13 PM EST (#251893) #
electric carrot - Tuesday, February 14 2012 @ 11:04 PM EST (#251894) #
I'm dying for baseball to start but during this lull would settle for some info on what happened with the prediction contests from last spring?  If there is a need to help tally the results I could help.
Dave Rutt - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 01:25 AM EST (#251896) #
electric carrot, that's my domain and I've been a little delinquent. Sorry about that! Results still forthcoming, hopefully before the end of Feb.
mathesond - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 08:44 AM EST (#251899) #
the word you are looking for is "team control"

"team control" is two words :)
Mike Green - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 08:50 AM EST (#251901) #
youneverknow.
John Northey - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 09:42 AM EST (#251903) #
Heh. No question having players under team control for long stretches is something AA chases down hard. I'm sure he hates having a lack of post-2012 option years for some players.

Via http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2011-roster.shtml...
Free agents after 2012...
Cordero, Johnson, Frasor, Encarnacion, Villanueva, Mathis and McGowan. Oliver has an option for 2013 or free agency, Davis an option or arbitration.

Free agents after 2013...
Davis, Ben Francisco, Litsch. Option or free agency for Lind, Escobar, Janssen.

Those two lists will have the guys most likely to be traded on them I suspect. Especially guys like Cordero, Frasor, and Villanueva who, as relievers, can be easily replaced if necessary.
Richard S.S. - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 09:47 AM EST (#251904) #
MLB Trade Rumors has Out Of Options post up. Luis Valbuena and Luis Perez are our only ones. How well Valbuena plays SS and 3B determines his future with the club. Luis Perez should have to earn a spot on this Roster, especially this year, as even McGowan isn't a lock for Starter.
bpoz - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 10:48 AM EST (#251907) #
Janssen explained how he was hurt by being demoted early in 2011. He said he worked hard & did his best and felt he was not the one to go. He also understood how the available options affect the decision. Since I always liked him, especially due to his incredible 2007 season, I agree with him. Based on his 2011 results, he & I may be right, but I am not suggesting that someone made the wrong decision. The demotion may actually have been a great motivator for him to do as well as he did. Also as Wilner always says ST means nothing, which is also my opinion, except Cecil's velocity question should be answered in ST as should McGowan's ability to throw about 90 pitches per game eventually.

This year something similar can happen to a short list of players. How valuable to the organization are Louis V & P ? If they are to be retained then 1 pitcher & 1 bench player with options will have to be sent down barring injury.

My short list is Alvarez & Litsch and McCoy,Thames/Snider. I too see both Thames & Snider needing full time ABs, so barring a trade at least one has to be demoted,possibly but unlikely both IMO.

92-93 - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 11:43 AM EST (#251911) #
Isn't Dusty Mac out of options? Or is it just that he can't be sent down with 5+ years, which I guess is the same thing.
Anders - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 12:47 PM EST (#251915) #
I think the idea is that they can help facilitate a deal for a desirable player, even the reliever(s) isn't the centrepiece (as in the trades for Edwin Jackson and Colby Rasmus). Having a couple of good relievers to offer gives you more options in crafting a deal.

I suspect relievers will be valued less now that they won't return any compensation.
greenfrog - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 01:00 PM EST (#251916) #
Agreed - the market for relievers will be different from now on. But having a deep 'pen might still give AA an edge in trade talks (eg, with a contender whose primary goal is to bolster the bullpen, not amass draft picks - like St. Louis last year, which was going for it and needed both a SP and a couple of good relievers). Potential trading partners need only look to the 2011 Cards to see the difference a bullpen upgrade can make.

Being able to offer an effective reliever with another year or two of control (like Janssen or Oliver) could also help make a deal happen.

But as I said, these would likely have to be complementary pieces to get anything of real value in return.
John Northey - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 01:17 PM EST (#251917) #
While relievers won't produce compensation the key element in mid-season trades is either gathering prospects (sellers) or reaching the playoffs (buyers). Generally relievers have gone to the buyers with stuff like draft picks being more a bonus than a requirement. I cannot think of cases where sellers were trying to get relievers for draft picks.

Given the new realities I suspect guys who wouldn't get compensation for their former teams (such as relievers) will now have bonus value due to option years and the like. The #1 element though in mid-season trades will be having what the other guy needs and having it be a rare commodity. Solid relievers who are comfortable in the middle role will be tough to get from bottom dwellers due to any solid pitchers there being in the rotation or closing, leading to a shortage of ones that are available. With 7 man bullpens odds are any team in contention will need at least one replacement by mid-season.

In the end, the cost for our pen is mostly a one year thing with options for 2012 or free agency looming for many. That means, given no premium free agents seemed to want Rogers money and they cannot use it on international free agents or draft picks anymore, that signing lots of decent middle men who you can trade might become a new inefficiency (aka method to stock the farm at a low cost).
bpoz - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 02:24 PM EST (#251921) #
John N I had to read your post twice to understand it. That was an intellectual challenge, even if I was not making dinner for the family.

But you are right, just about all the contenders would want 1 more decent bullpen arm.
The Phillies may trade P Aumont for 1 of Oliver, Fraser or Cordero. Their window will close in a few years. I don't know who would be over paying, but IMO it should be the Phillies.
If they get their man elsewhere, then Atlanta, Miami & Washington have incentive to make a move if they are in it.

Remember Minnesota got Matt Capps early in the season.
greenfrog - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 02:31 PM EST (#251922) #
Jays may indeed be checking in on Soler (per MLBTR):

"12:59pm: The Blue Jays watched Soler and others Wednesday at the team's complex in the Dominican Republic, writes MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez. The Orioles will be in the D.R. to watch him Sunday. Sanchez lists the Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Phillies, and Cubs as other interested parties."
MatO - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 02:46 PM EST (#251923) #
Remember Minnesota got Matt Capps early in the season. He was traded to Minnesota by Washington on July 29, 2010 and then signed with them as a FA after the season.
jgadfly - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 02:48 PM EST (#251925) #

"Isn't Dusty Mac out of options?" ...   92-93

I could see McGowan "tweaking" something in springtraining, making the 25 man roster but coming north on the 15 day DL, being sent down to LV after opening day ceremonies and getting a few rehab starts there then being recalled around the 20th of April when the 5th starter would be required and at that time the Jays making a decision on Perez .  Then again ... WTHK

John Northey - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 03:29 PM EST (#251927) #
Heh. Price of writing at work - my mind is all over the place and so are my posts sometimes :)

Having a batch of relievers who are tradeable at the deadline might be an effective short term thing for AA, any maybe even long term. If the development pipeline can keep growing in the pitching department then he can have replacements ready thus being able to trade relievers who are already here for useful parts. Trick is to have depth though as you don't want a major mess where one guy has to take on all of the load.

Looking at last years pen we can see of the top 8 used relievers only 3 will be here this year (Janssen, Frasor, Perez) and one of those had left briefly while another may not make the team in spring. Churn rate can be high in the pen that is for sure.
bpoz - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 04:40 PM EST (#251931) #
Thanks MatO, about M Capps. I thought the trade was May or June because J Nathan got injured.
Was it from memory or do you have a fast way of looking it up.
92-93 - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 04:42 PM EST (#251932) #
http://www.baseball-reference.com/ is your friend, bpoz. Every player's full trade history is on the bottom of their player page.
MatO - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 04:59 PM EST (#251934) #

I thought it was a deadline deal in 2010 but I wasn't sure what happened after the season.  I looked it up at Baseball Reference to be sure.  If you go under the player's name, at the top click on "all transactions".

bpoz - Wednesday, February 15 2012 @ 06:04 PM EST (#251936) #
Thanks guys.

I think all us Bauxites are passionate about the Jays. I appreciate the research & thought put into your posts.

But the word Lying causes unnecessary friction.

I believe there is a lot of lying going on in baseball. But I prefer to use the word Deception. Examples:-
1) Mystery team involved.
2) Fictional trade rumors.
3) A player gets traded and it turns out that he is injured. Was there some deception involved.

How about players demanding a trade and then denying it. Or just changed their mind and the love was rekindled.

Then there is owner interference. I don't know if the owner influenced the Babe Ruth trade. G Steinbrenner & Charlie O Finlay may be guilty. Charlie O could have outsmarted a lot of other owners & maybe some GMs.

I feel strongly that Beeston will come through for us. I just hope he does not deceive some trusting team.
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