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The affiliates went 2-2 in about the least exciting way possible. Lansing was actually able to play, but apparently didn't get the memo until it was too late.

Las Vegas 6 at Sacremento 5

Las Vegas bookended seven scoreless innings with a four run first and two run ninth, giving them just enough to squeak by Sacremento. The 51s opened things up in the first, cashing a Darin Mastroianni leadoff single with two outs before David Cooper knocked in himself, Eric Thames and Ryan Shealy all by himself. Sactown chipped away at Ryan Boone and Mike Hinckley, scoring three (two unearned on a Brett Lawrie bases loaded error) and two in four and two innings respectively, to take back the lead. Things were quiet til the 9th, when Lawrie redeemed himself with a two run double to plate the tieing and winning runs. Rommie Lewis came in for the save and that was all she wrote.

For the 51s, Mastro had 2 hits, including a double, same for Lawrie, who also added a stolen base. Old friend Chris Woodward has two two-baggers, and Cooper walked in addition to the aforementioned dinger, while Eric Thames was held to a single in five plate appearances. The Jr. Jays were also shut down for two innings by the Vincredible Chulk.

Reading 4 at New Hampshire 1

After starting the season 3-1, the Cats pulled a Jays and have now lost three straight, getting swept by Reading in a three game set. The squadron could muster only a measley four hits, all singles, including one each from d'Arnaud, and Hechavarria, who also made a throwing error. Reidier Gonzalez started for New Hampshire and was sharp, allowing 2 runs in 6 innings, 7 hits, 1 walk, 3 strikeouts. Dumas Garcia got roughed up a bit in relief, allowing the other two runs, while Clint Everts was perfect in an inning. Phillipe Aumont picked up the save for the Phillies affiliate, retiring all four batters he faced.

Lakeland 5 at Dunedin 6

Another 6-5 squeaker for the good guys, though this time they didn't have to wait until the ninth. Deck McGuire took the mound to start and was simply ok, going 4.2 innings and allowing 3 runs. He did strike out five, against 5 base hits and 2 walks. The rest of the pen was almost perfect save for Casey Beck, who was subjected to an error before walking the other two batters he faced after coming in with one out in the seven; two runs would count against him, 1 unearned. The bulk of the D-Jays scoring came in the 4-run 5th, as the Justin Jackson, Kenny Wilson, Ivan Contreras and AJ Jiminez had four consecutive extra base hits, double, double, triple, double. A wild pitch brought in the last one. They would strike again in the 7th and the 8th, on two singles and two throwing errors, and on a Brad Glenn home run.  Wes Etheridge got three groundouts to end things in the ninth.

Kenny Wilson led the charge with two singles and a double, while Justin Jackson was 2/2 with a single, double and walk, and apparently was both picked off and caught stealing on the same play (in which he was safe at second on a throwing error, leading to the tieing run in the 7th.) Go figure, MILB. Jiminez, Ochinko and Glenn were held to solitary hits albeit all for extra bases.

Lansing 5 at South Bend 9

This one was over before it started, as South Bend went up 3-0, then 4-0, then 9-0 before the Lugnuts started to play. Lansing scored their five runs in the fifth and sixth but were unable to muster anything beyond that, and thus took the loss. Daniel Webb was the victim in this one, allowing seven runs, all earned, in his 3 innings of work. He did strike out 3 against no walks, I suppose. Drew Permisson wasn't much better, although he only allowed 1 run and inning for his two frames. The Lugnut bats could muster only three hits all game - a Gustavo Pierre double, Bulbino Fuenmayor triple, and a Michael Crouse single.

Three Stars!

3rd Star! Justin Jackson - 2/2, 2B, BB, 2 R

2nd Star! Reidier Gonzalez - 6 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K

1st Star! Kenny Wilson - 3/3, 2B, 1 R, 1 RBI

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China fan - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:10 AM EDT (#232742) #
Now that Brad Mills has been sent back to Vegas, an outfielder is likely to be promoted by Friday.  It has to be someone who can play CF to back up Patterson.  The rules don't permit the Jays to recall McCoy for a few more days, since he went down so recently.  Some people are assuming that it will be DeWayne Wise, but he hasn't played a single game at any level of baseball this year, as far as I can tell from Baseball Reference, so he might not be game-ready for the majors, even in a backup role.  By the process of elimination -- could it be Mastroianni who is promoted?  He has adjusted well to AAA competition, with an OBP of .382 so far.  And he probably has more pure speed than DeWayne Wise, so he might be better-suited for the pinch-running role, especially since the usual pinch-runner John McDonald might be needed for occasional work at 2B or 3B this year.  It would be nice to see Mastro getting a taste of the majors this year.
Jonny German - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:24 AM EDT (#232743) #
I agree that Mastro would be the best choice for this callup, tho it wouldn't surprise me if he gets passed over for a vet. Mike Wilner seemed convinced it will be Chris Woodward. I don't get that, Woodward doesn't do anything at all that Nix and McDonald don't do.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:26 AM EDT (#232744) #
Kenny Wilson, 1st star?  All right.  It was a Kenny Wilson classic 3-3, a bunt single to the third baseman, a ground ball double to left-field (presumably down the line past a drawn-in third baseman) and another bunt single. 

He's only 21 in the FSL, so there is still time for him offensively.  When I saw him, I was disappointed with his defensive instincts in centerfield.  He obviously has enough speed for the position, but it may be that he is better cast as a left-fielder/leadoff hitter type. 

China fan - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:31 AM EDT (#232747) #

On his Twitter feed, Wilner first guessed that it would be Woodward who is called up, and then he abandoned that notion and agreed with someone who suggested that Wise would be called up.  So I think he is just guessing randomly.  Does anyone know what Wise has been doing since spring training?  If he hasn't played in any competitive baseball at any level for the past couple weeks, I don't know how he can step immediately into a 25-man roster.  Mastro would be my preference.

Mike Green - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:38 AM EDT (#232748) #
Mastroianni is the obvious choice.  Patterson can't hit left-handers and Wise is a LHH.
ayjackson - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:45 AM EDT (#232749) #
I agree Mastro is the logical choice.  Let's see if there's any bias to veterans.
cybercavalier - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:00 AM EDT (#232752) #
Agreeing with all of the above, Mastro is the logical choice without shuffling the 40-man roster. At any rate, Mastro plays well in AAA, let us how he fare against major league pitcher. He could also chipped in a few plate appearance as an infielder when the game was a blowout. Farrell and the other coaches would have better picture on how he can be handled in future.




Anders - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:07 AM EDT (#232753) #
Kenny Wilson, 1st star?  All right.  It was a Kenny Wilson classic 3-3, a bunt single to the third baseman, a ground ball double to left-field (presumably down the line past a drawn-in third baseman) and another bunt single.

I suppose Cooper or Lawrie could have been on the list as well, but all the other pitchers were terrible pretty much, and no one else was better than 2/5. I tend to defer to times reached base/total bases and impressive strikeout tallies as my deciders, though this view is by no means uniform amongst the minor league gang. If only there was WPA for the minor leagues!

Sometimes nothing interesting happens on the farm, and the good players don't do anything. I have an Anthony Gose pun that I've been waiting 8 months to use - sometimes you just have to let the chips fall where they may.
uglyone - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 01:16 PM EDT (#232762) #
Sounds like the called up LHP L.Perez instead of a bench bat.

I like the idea of another lefty reliever against the very lefty-heavy Red Sox this series, especially one who can go for a few innings if one of our starters gets knocked around early.

On a related note - Morrow's last rehab start is on Sunday, which means he's back in the rotation next time around.

Which means that it's finals time for Reyes/Litsch/Cecil - and what better final exam for them than a start in Fenway against an angry Red Sox team?

China fan - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#232763) #
The Perez thing, if true, is a little strange.  Why not just keep Mills on the team?  Over the past few days, the Jays have called up a 26-year-old LH pitcher, kept him on the team for a couple days, then demoted him and replaced him with another 26-year-old LH pitcher whose numbers are actually worse than the first guy and who is likely to stay on the team for the identical brief period of two or three games.  I don't really see the point, unless they think it's crucial that Mills shouldn't miss a start....   And then there is Scott Richmond, called up for a similarly brief couple of games and shipped back down again, even though he might be the best-suited for the major-league bullpen of any of those three guys.  The Jays are building up quite a big carbon footprint on those flights from the PCL to the majors.
Mike Green - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 01:39 PM EDT (#232764) #
Anders, my "all right" for Kenny Wilson's first star was a cheer rather than an implied question.  I have been a fan of Kenny Wilson for a while.
85bluejay - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#232770) #

The joy of a very small sample size at the start of a season - Jackson/Wilson/Fuenmayor who have shown very little ability to hit or plate discipline have had nice starts - in a moment of unbridled enthusiasm, one could almost dream - imagine Fuenmayor who starts swinging when he gets out of bed has 2 walks & no strikeouts - if the new minor league regimen can coax a hopeful season from any of these players it would be quite a coup. 

The Perez thing is interesting - I'm very happy as we need a 2nd LH against the Red Sox  - perhaps Perez had pitched recently & therefore was unavailable to pitch in Seattle or maybe the fact that the Red Sox had lit up Mills like a Christmas tree in previous appearances was a factor. 

MatO - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 03:38 PM EDT (#232780) #
It'll be interesting to contrast Cooper and Wallace, this season.  Playing the same position, at the same level, at the same place.  Cooper will be about 6 months older than Wallace was in AAA so not a huge age difference.  They interviewed Dwayne Murphy in the dugout of one of the spring training games and he said that their records indicated that Cooper had the most hard hit balls for the Fisher Cats in 2010.  If so, then he was very unlucky last season with his low BABIP.
TamRa - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 03:57 PM EDT (#232782) #
Perez?

I'm speechless.

bpoz - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:14 PM EDT (#232783) #
Mat O, T Lacava said in one of the many, many ST interviews with everyone that they do have a monthly award for most hard hit balls, and that Cooper won more than anyone else.

ChinaFan, I too cannot figure out the Jay's player movement. They sure were correct in not putting Escobar on the 7 day DL. Boston is loaded with LH bats so an 8 man pen makes sense, at the cost of a position player. I am confused as to why Perez for Mills, they must have seen something in ST. Lucky all this turmoil did not happen last year too.
hypobole - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#232784) #
It makes sense that we have a LOOGY vs the Sox, so who has better stats vs LH hitters, Mills or Perez? I'd like to check, but MiLB only provides current year stats. It would be appreciated if someone could post a site that gives these splits for 2010 and previous seasons. Thanks
Mike Green - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#232785) #
Perhaps the Jays called up Mills a couple of days ago because Perez had thrown 5 innings on April 9 and so couldn't really help them until tomorrow.  I guess that makes sense.  They wanted a second lefty in the pen with Purcey gone,  and Perez was their first choice but temporarily unavailable. 
China fan - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#232786) #

To be fair, the Jays have not officially confirmed the promotion of Perez.  So far, the only real source on this is ESPNdeportes.com, which has reported it from its Dominican contacts, along with Shi Davidi who is also tweeting that he is "hearing this is true."  We'll see, but nobody has shot down the report so far, so it seems likely that it is true.

Perez last pitched on April 9, so perhaps he wasn't deemed to be available when Brad Mills was recalled a couple days ago.  That begs the question: why is Perez seen as a better option than Mills?   His WHIP was a rather frightening 1.777 last season at Las Vegas, and his 2011 debut wasn't much better.  Gerry, in the other thread, raises a good point about Perez's potential as a reliever.  But you'd think the Jays would experiment with this in the minors, rather than in the cauldron of Fenway Park....

Mike Green - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 04:47 PM EDT (#232788) #
Aw, c'mon.  Fenway is cute.  Yeah, it can get hot in there, but it's more like a teapot than a cauldron.
bpoz - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 05:01 PM EDT (#232790) #
I believe Jay's management keeps their thoughts to themselves and I agree with this.
That said Cecil has not pitched a good game yet, but then IMO FF and Morrow have not been good yet in their rehabs.
Please see if I understand options correctly:-
1) FF, if no options left has to be recalled after some unknown number of days of rehab. ie he cannot rehab for months on end.
2) Morrow has 1 option left, so after his rehab time runs out he can stay down for 20 days without losing an option. I believe he should come up when he is ready not before.
3) If Cecil pitches "not good enough" in his 3rd- 8/9th ? start then he should be sent down but not until the day before his missed start so that his option burning clock has the most time on it.
4) With enough pitchers going down for poor performance or traded maybe Mills does not burn his last option. IMO he has never had a fair opportunity in the Majors, due to the number of good pitchers we have. But IMO he is one of our better performing PCL pitchers.
hypobole - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 10:54 PM EDT (#232809) #
 China fan - Perez  2011 debut was not much better, but the damage seems to have been done by RH hitters. He faced 3 LH batters and struck them all out,. If he is being recalled to serve as a LOOGY, how he fares vs lefties is what matters most. Anyone have his 2010 LH/RH splits?
Matthew E - Thursday, April 14 2011 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#232810) #
bpoz: I think that options work on a yearly basis. That is, you can't use up more than one option in a year; sending a guy down once in a year is the same as calling him up and sending him down twenty times between May and August. I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
TamRa - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 01:04 AM EDT (#232812) #
Gerry, or anyone else who regularly speaks to Jays scouts/personnel - iv'e a tip for you. Never done anything like this before but whatever.

I'm sure it's probably true that High School kids do stuff like this a lot against weak competition and it means nothing, but i thought I'd bring this up anyway. kid goes to my old high school, which is a pretty small school even for around here (graduate less than 40 probably)

He hit three homers (including 2 grand slams) in one inning recently, and in another recent game he struck out 19. He's also the regular shortstop, and a star in other sports.

I'm thinking he's probably nothing to see or State and Ole Miss would be fighting over him but it wouldn't hurt for whoever the area scout in the southern U.S. to take a peek if he happened to be in the area.

Here's a URL to one story about him

http://nemisspreps.com/schools/school-article-profile.php?Article_ID=2695

Would be kinda cool if a kid from my school was drafted by the Jays

mathesond - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 07:20 AM EDT (#232813) #
"Would be kinda cool if a kid from my school was drafted by the Jays"

Then opposing pitchers could say to themselves, "danger, Will Robertson!"
bpoz - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 10:20 AM EDT (#232815) #
Thanks for the help Mathew E. But I wanted to confirm some numbers.
First I do know that only 1 option per year gets used.
But what I don't know is number of days allowed in the minors before an option is used. I believe from reading Batters Box that the number is 20 days. So if you send a player down 3 times for a total of 15 days eg a starting pitcher flies to LV and arrives on the 1st of the month, he is then activated on the 2nd and starts that same day, he then makes his 2nd start on the 6th and is sent back up, which makes 5 days. he still has 15 more days before he gets to 20 days and uses up the option. Except that there may be a 10 day minimum.
The other rule I am not clear on is Rehabbing. Frank Francisco was put on the DL, then he got healthy enough to pitch for Dunedin, so this is rehabbing until he is ready for ML use. I am reasonably sure that there is a "rehab time limit", but I do not know what it is. B morrow has both available to him rehab time + # days before the option is used up.

IMO this aspect of the rules is very important and must be used properly in development of players.
IMO Purcey was handled properly, 4 minor league years before he was put on the 40 man to avoid the rule 5 draft, then 3 more years where options were burned. He got a good ML opportunity in those 3 option years.
Personally I think that the Jays are being hasty in letting Purcey go. I believe Farrell said Janssen, Carlos V & Purcey were his long men when the season started. Due to opportunities available, Purcey did not get to do any long work. Until Seattle Purcey was 4Gm 2IP 1H 3BB & 3SO & 0.00 Era. I am not sure but his velocity may have been down to 91-92, I saw the walk to Seattle but not the 2 singles before he was pulled, so I don't know how hard they were hit. The next 3 batters were walked by Dotel & Zep, so Purcey was not bailed out. If Purcey has lost his 95 mph heater for 2011 then IMO he won't have enough to stay in the Majors with anyone this year..
I am sure every year all over the league there will be games when the pen comes in and pours gasoline on the fire.
China fan - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 10:28 AM EDT (#232817) #

....He faced 3 LH batters and struck them all out.  If he (Perez) is being recalled to serve as a LOOGY, how he fares vs lefties is what matters most....

Hypobole, that's a good point.  Maybe his splits make him a natural LOOGY.  My main question is the process of adjusting from a starting role to a relieving role.  Sometimes it seems relatively easy and natural, without needing any minor-league bullpen experience (Rzepczynski is a good example).  Other times it can be a difficult adjustment, requiring several months in a bullpen in the minors (David Purcey would be an example), and even then it often doesn't work.  Perez's minor-league record is not nearly as good as Zep's record, so I would think that he'd have a tougher time in the adjustment.  A couple games on the roster in the Boston road trip, where he is unlikely to be used anyway, don't seem like a good way of starting that adjustment.  We'll see what happens when he returns to Las Vegas.  If he's best-suited to be a reliever, why not begin the process in Las Vegas and give him some time to adjust?

hypobole - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 02:09 PM EDT (#232830) #
China fan - My guess is Boston, with Gonzalez, Crawford, Ellsbury, Drew and Ortiz all being LH batters, is exactly where they plan to use Perez.
China fan - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 04:06 PM EDT (#232835) #

We'll see.  Personally I doubt that Perez will be used unless the other 7 relievers are unavailable.  He is definitely 8th on the depth chart.  Pitching in the majors is about more than handedness.

uglyone - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 06:07 PM EDT (#232846) #
I think you're overanalyzing this one.

The Jays wanted another lefty for 4-gamer vs. the lefty-heavy Red Sox, and probably wanted one who could pitch multi-innings in case one of the young starters gets beaten up early.

Looks like it came down to Mills v. Perez, and they preferred Perez - most likely because Perez has some legit heat on his fastball, while Mills is a soft-tosser supreme (who if memory serves got lit up by the Sox last year).

and I don't think "adjusting" to a bullpen role is an issue in the least, really, especially for a guy who's not going to be thrown into high leverage late inning situations.
budgell - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 06:25 PM EDT (#232847) #
The Vincredible Chulk

Gold, Anders, gold
China fan - Friday, April 15 2011 @ 06:58 PM EDT (#232848) #
Of course no adjustment is required if Perez is merely a 4-game emergency call-up who then returns to the Vegas rotation. My comment about adjustments was a response to others who suggested that Perez is better suited to a permanent LOOGY role or other bullpen role in the future -- which the Jays have already contemplated, according to Gerry's comment in the other thread..
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