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Toronto Blue Jays third basemen are 0 for their last 45, after the 0-for-6 effort yesterday. Edwin Encarnacion has become a peripheral figure who may find playing time on the field hard to come by. Nix has gone through a rough stretch since returning from the DL. Toronto’s .170 average from third basemen ranks last in baseball and they’ve contributed 3 homers and 15 RBI. Meanwhile, Las Vegas continues to enjoy the Brett Lawrie show.

Tacoma 8 @ Las Vegas 14Boxscore

Lawrie was one of many 51’s to have a big night at the plate, as the team exploded for 14 runs on 20 hits. Lawrie was 4-for-6 with a double, two home runs, four runs and 4 RBI. Adam Loewen also had four hits, going 4-for-5 with a double, a run and an RBI. Travis Snider, David Cooper and Danny Perales each had three hits. Snider was 3-for-5 with three runs, a double, a walk and 2 RBI. Cooper had a two-run homer, drew a walk and scored twice. Perales also scored twice, drove in two, walked and added a double. Ryan Budde had a double, a single and a run scored. The only 51’s to go hitless were Chris Woodward and Dewayne Wise, whose 0-for-6 lowered his average to .353.

Brett Cecil started for Las Vegas and went 7.1 innings with a 110-pitch effort. He allowed nine hits and walked a pair. Tacoma scored 6 runs off Cecil, five earned and the other scoring on a Loewen error. Cecil struck out four. Winston Abreu threw a scoreless 0.2 innings and Sean Henn pitched the ninth, surrendering a couple of runs in the process.

New Britain 0 @ New Hampshire 4Boxscore

A day after combining for 30 hits and 18 runs, the two teams scratched out 11 hits and four runs. Joel Carreno and Frank Gailey combined to throw a two-hitter. Carreno went 7 strong innings and surrendered two singles. He issued three free passes, but struck out 11. Of the nine batters retired on balls in play, Carreno retired six on ground balls. Southpaw Frank Gailey made his first appearance in Double-A and pitched two hitless innings, walking one and striking out a batter. Yangervis Solarte and Chris Parmalee had the hits for New Britain, while Mark Dolenc was 0-for-4 with four strikeouts.

The Fisher Cats scored three in the first and didn’t look back, adding a run in the third on an Anthony Gose solo shot to take a 4-0 lead. The three runs came on four singles and a sacrifice fly, as Darin Mastroianni and Adeiny Hechevarria started the game with singles. Gose struck out, but then Mike McDade singled in Mastroianni and Moises Sierra cashed Hechevarria. After a Travis d’Arnaud walk, Ricardo Nanita hit a sacrifice fly, scoring McDade. Mastrianni, Hechevarria and McDade each had two hits, with Mastroianni hitting a triple. Nanita hit a double later in the game and d’Arnaud added a pair of walks. John Tolisano and Craig Stansberry each went hitless.

Dunedin 9 @ St. Lucie 6Boxscore

A trio of D-Jays each had three hits, as Justin Jackson, Ryan Goins and Sean Ochinko each played a role in lifting the offence. Jackson was 3-for-4 with a double, three runs and a walk. Goins was also 3-for-4 with a double, a walk, a run and 2 RBI. Ochinko had a pair of doubles and an RBI. Kevin Ahrens and Brad McElroy were each 1-for-4 with an RBI, with Ahrens adding a walk and three strikeouts, while McElroy scored a run and counted an RBI. Brad Glenn was 1-for-5 with a double and RBI, while Brian Van Kirk was 1-for-3 with a run and a pair of a walks. Jon Talley had two hits, including a solo homer. Kenny Wilson was the only Dunedin batter without a hit, but he contributed to the attack with two walks and a run. Despite counting 9 runs, the Jays didn’t hit well with runners in scoring position, going 4-for-16 with 12 left on base.

Unheralded, at least in Toronto’s farm system, pitching prospect Chad Jenkins started the game, allowing eight hits and two runs. He gave up five runs, only three earned because of a Ryan Goins error, and also struck out five. He earned the win and improved to 3-5 with a 2.79 ERA. Anton Loup came in and over 0.2 innings, surrendered a run on two hits. He made way for Wes Etheridge, who is doing a good impersonation of someone who is not named Frank Francisco. Etheridge came in with a runner on base and didn’t allow him to score. He then threw a scorless ninth inning to pick up his sixteenth save.

Lansing 3 @ Bowling Green 2Boxscore

The Lugnuts were outhit 9-7, but the Hot Rods went 1-for-10 with runners in scoring position and stranded 11, enabling Lansing to pull out the narrow 3-2 victory. Lefthander John Anderson made his second start of the season and he still has not allowed a run this year. He went 4 innings, allowing four hits and two walks. Misaul Diaz came on in relief of Anderson and he allowed a run over 3 innings. Diaz struck out five and allowed two hits. He’d pick up the victory, his first of the season. Danny Barnes threw a scoreless eighth and Ross Turnbull picked up his 12th save, although he allowed three hits and a run in the ninth.

Marcus Brisker led off the game with a triple and was immediately driven home by a Carlos Perez sacrifice fly. In the fifth, Bryson Namba walked and advanced to second on a Gustavo Pierre ground out. Brisker walked, bringing up Carlos Perez. Perez singled, driving home Namba, but he was thrown out trying to advance to second on what seems like it might be a baserunning mistake, as the right-fielder threw to the first baseman, who threw to the shortstop to get Perez. In the sixth inning, Marcus Knecht hit a solo homer; his fifth of the year. Knecht also worked a pair of walks during the game. KC Hobson was 1-for-4, as was Gustavo Pierre, while Jonathan Jones had two singles in Lansing’s only multi-hit effort. Namba, Michael Crouse and Kevin Nolan all went hitless.

Three Stars:
3rd Star – Justin Jackson, 3-4, 3 R, 2B, BB, 4 TB
2nd Star – Joel Carreno, 7 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 11 K
1st Star – Brett Lawrie, 4-6, 4 R, 2B, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 11 TB

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Sister - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:34 AM EDT (#235672) #
In Carreno's last 31.2 innings pitched he has allowed only 8 hits......EIGHT! That is crazy.

He has also struck out 41 and walked 21.

ogator - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:38 AM EDT (#235673) #
  Remember when J.P. Arencibia was tearing up the PCL and the word was that he might be able to tear up the PCL but Major League baseball was something else and then it was that J.P couldn't handle a pitching staff and then it was that if John Buck didn't get to play then no free agent would sign with Toronto...sigh.  Now it is third base is a new position for Lawrie or he won't be able to reproduce those numbers in Toronto or he has an attitude problem or maybe he'll get super two status blah blah blah.  The idea is to win and winning is no longer far fetched, it is within reason right now but it won't be if the Blue Jays don't field the best team they have available.  Say it after me, "Free Brett Lawrie...NOW!"
Mike Green - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:39 AM EDT (#235674) #
Marcus Knecht is quietly off to a great start. His .326/.414/.526 is the 4th best line in the Midwest League and the 3 players ahead of him are all 2 or 3 years older.

It has been a memorable two months on the farm.
Marc Hulet - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:47 AM EDT (#235675) #
Congrats to Frank Gailey for a much-deserved promotion to double-A.
85bluejay - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#235676) #

About this Justin Jackson fellow -  I assume he was made a super sub. in part because he had fallen off the prospect radar and there was no room at SS with Goins & Hech. Now that he is moving back onto the radar prospect what should the Jays do with him.

- stay the course - it's probably his 1st healthy season since 2008, he's enjoying his 1st. taste of success, so lets re-evaluate in the offseason - besides a super sub. is valuable ala Ben Zobrist

- with Aaron Hill's future in Toronto uncertain - move him to 2nd and maybe promote him for the 2nd half - he gets to play with Hech - could be ready for late 2012/2013 

- Previous scouting reports indicated that Jackson was a plus defender at SS  & now that he's hitting that would make him a very valuable commodity - I assume that Hech will remain at AA for the entire season trying to get his bat going - if the Jays still like Goins at SS, maybe he's mature enough to handle the jump to AAA where the hitting environment might help mitigate the big jump - move Jackson to SS 

- If Jackson is better than Goins at SS, Move Goins to 2nd.

 

85bluejay - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:53 AM EDT (#235677) #

Marc,

            Is Frank Gailey a legitimate prospect - is stature worries me a bit.

Marc Hulet - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 11:08 AM EDT (#235679) #
Gailey has a below-average fastball and a small stature as you mentioned. I could see him reach the Majors as a LOOGY, at least for a short time. He's always produced good numbers in the minors so I would not count him out but AA and AAA will be big tests for him.
rfan8 - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 11:25 AM EDT (#235680) #

The current management group obviously has a development plan for each player and does not like to deviate for the sake of a few extra wins in the current year, so I get the feeling that we're going to be complaining about "delayed" promotions every year.  I think Tampa uses a similar appraoch.  It's hard to complain though given the production/development of the key prospects and the success shown by Tampa.   

scottt - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 12:24 PM EDT (#235684) #
I don't think it's that hard. The few TB fans I see here and there complain an awful lot.
uglyone - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 01:21 PM EDT (#235686) #
the individual performances have been a pleasure to watch (especially under the radar guys like Carreno, Molina, Alvarez, Crouse, Jimenez, etc - guys who really beef up our prospect base beyond the bigger names)....but I don't ever remember the Jays' farm clubs having so much TEAM success.

LV: .620w% - 2nd in PCL
NH: .667w% - 1st in EAS
DUN: .540w% - 5th in FSL
LAN: .596w% - 2nd in MWL

all four teams looking like contenders in the early going.
earlweaverfan - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 01:29 PM EDT (#235687) #
Yes, uglyone, I share those sentiments totally.  On the days when the Jays give away a win, because they can't get enough hits through the whole lineup, I sigh and turn to the farm results for my satisfaction.

But, as for Lawrie, I believe he will rock in the majors from Day One, and I want him in TO yesterday!

Put another way, if Lawrie had been with us from Spring Training, we would be in first place right now.  Then, the conversation about when it is reasonable to expect this team to contend would be up for a very different kind of discussion.  Maybe the front office is ambivalent about whether they want us to contend this year. 

I am sorry to say, this is the one topic on which I am ambivalent about the front office :)

bcool - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 01:57 PM EDT (#235688) #
Are Marisnick and AJ Jimenez injured? Haven't seen them in the lineup for a week or so. Any updates on them?
Gerry - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#235690) #
Both Marisnick and Jimenez are on the 7 day DL. Marisnick has a sore wrist, not sure about Jimenez but catchers are always getting beaten up.
Gerry - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 03:08 PM EDT (#235691) #
Two pitchers who struggled recently are doing well today, Zack Stewart and Asher Wojciechowski have shutouts through six innings.
cybercavalier - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#235692) #
Re Earlweaverfan,

From a personal opinion as a Canadian Jays' fan, I don't mind Lawrie in Vegas or TO, as long as he is being developed in all aspects of the baseball game. No rush for him at all; sometimes I felt Lawrie is more or less treated as the Canadian god or savior for the Jays. If we need someone to push the major league Jays for first place, Lawrie doesn't have to be the guy. Other the development for the minor league Jays, I think Vegas 51s shall be acquiring players at bargain prices. Jose Lopez is an option, who I think is potentially better than Woodward-Mayorson-Diaz middle infield trio at Vegas.
cybercavalier - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#235693) #
O, I forgot.

Also if Snider are ready to go to TO again, Bautista could potential be moved to third base, solving the black hole at third base with a switch.

DaveB - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 05:38 PM EDT (#235696) #

Was Frank Gailey promoted to NH because of an injury to Alan Farina? Farina hasn't pitched since Wednesday, when he recorded his sixth save with a hitless inning. Today, Bobby Korecky blew the save for Stewart in the ninth inning. Farina's had some injury troubles in the past.



Gerry - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 05:40 PM EDT (#235698) #
Farina is on the DL, not sure why.
DaveB - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 05:46 PM EDT (#235699) #

Thanks Gerry. Tough luck for Farina. Let's hope it's not serious.

Alex Obal - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 05:56 PM EDT (#235700) #
Let's hear it for the Corey Patterson show!
bpoz - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 06:18 PM EDT (#235702) #
Cory Patterson's numbers seem quite similar to his numbers last year with Baltimore. He has had some good years in his career, and he is not old yet.
I hope Snider & Thames are able to get enough playing time at the ML level this year. Well at least they are playing a lot for their respective teams.
Mylegacy - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 07:00 PM EDT (#235704) #
In Patterson's case - it's like the perfect storm for him.

Escobar bats right and gets on base at over an OBP of 350. Patterson bats left - is a fast ball pull hitter - and with Escobar on base has an opening between 1st and 2nd. In addition with Bautista on deck NO ONE in their right mind would walk Patterson - so - like today - he gets two balls and then the pitcher/catcher realizes they've gotta pitch to Patterson or face Bautista with two on base - so they throw him a fastball and - BAM!

The one thing Patterson does well - the Escobar/Bautista duo set him up for success. I'm so struck by what a great 1 - 2 - 3 these guys are that when Snider comes back I'd move Patterson to CF (Ya I know he's only a step above meh there).

I see: Escobar (R), Patterson (L), Bautista (R), Lind (L), Arencibia (R), Snider (L), Rivera (R) - He'll be in LF, Lawrie (R), Hill (R) ...WOW, me thinks.

Kelekin - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#235705) #
I fail to see how having Lawrie on the team would've put us in first place, as if it was that simple.  There is no guarantee that he would've adjusted to major league hitting that quickly.  Even then, most hitting rookies tend to have big sophomore slumps. 

I'm fine with the patient development path with him, just like JPA last year (and JPA was older).  Lawrie needs more ABs and more reps and I see no reason he needs to hurry and get them here.  He'll be up soon regardless.

Good to see Wojo and Stewart finally putting together some good May starts.  Stewart started out slow last year too, and let's hope Wojo can turn things around.

Alex Obal - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#235706) #
Lawrie needs more ABs and more reps

This is a very strong statement.
Spifficus - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:04 PM EDT (#235707) #
Is it any less strong than the opposite end of the scale, and acting just as certain that Anthopoulis is just Super 2'ing him?
TamRa - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:10 PM EDT (#235709) #
Am I the only one having trouble with the board? The toolbar at the top of this window is missing and i can't paste anything in at all.
Alex Obal - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:11 PM EDT (#235710) #
Depends. It's hard to tell because the word 'needs' is vague, almost as bad as the word 'ready.' Both words disproportionately tend to show up in sentences that are complete BS. They should be excised from the baseball lexicon at once.
Spifficus - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:18 PM EDT (#235711) #
Agreed. Talking with certainty often seems to be a substitute for knowledge.

I've just found all the talk of Lawrie's perspective callup to border on the absurd; both sides build their straw men based on only one factor, ignoring the often invisible complexities of player development.
Alex Obal - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:30 PM EDT (#235713) #
Right. I understand that GMs and scouts might like that kind of language because it helps them give convincing non-answers that sound authoritative while saying as little as possible. But fans aren't in the business of giving non-answers. When we talk like that we just sound imprecise or worse.

Site works fine for me, TamRa.
TamRa - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:31 PM EDT (#235714) #
I'm not privy to the front office reasoning for taking such a deliberate pace, but I'm as certain as I can reasonably be that they are not, in fact, manipulating his service time.
Thomas - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#235718) #
I'm as certain as I can reasonably be that they are not, in fact, manipulating his service time.

Will you change your stance if Lawrie's promoted during the first two weeks of June?

Dave Till - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 09:14 PM EDT (#235719) #
Call me a naive optimist, but this may be one of those rare times where keeping Lawrie down for about two months or so makes baseball sense as well as business sense. The two months or so in AAA gave him time to adjust to a new position and a higher level, and gives the Jays an extra year of arbitration eligibility. It's a win-win.

The complicating factor is that I don't think that the Jays have given up on EE yet. He's still comparatively young, and he hasn't reached his full potential. He might never reach it, of course, and there is a limit on how long he can struggle before the Jays should give up on him. But if you take the view that the Jays are building for a year or two down the road - when Gose and maybe Hechavarria are ready and Snider has his mojo back - it makes sense to give EE as much of an opportunity as possible. (Yes, I know he isn't playing third right now - but that might still happen.) The "be patient, and still more patient" strategy seems to be starting to pay off with Jo-Jo, so who says it might not pay off for EE? He could hit 40 home runs some day.

If it's any factor, the Jays seem to be solidly behind Edwin. I follow some Jays on Twitter, and Ricky Romero issued a fervent defense of EE in his Twitter stream, saying that he is a pro who is working hard.

On the other hand, I would enjoy seeing Lawrie in a major league uniform. He seems pretty close to ready now, and he would be fun to watch.

Marc Hulet - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 09:39 PM EDT (#235721) #
The fan base also has to be cautious with how much pressure/expectation it puts on Lawrie. When he comes up, this club does not suddenly become a first-place team.
Spifficus - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 09:41 PM EDT (#235722) #

Will you change your stance if Lawrie's promoted during the first two weeks of June?

It's funny. 50 games was always my uneducated guess as to how long it'd take for him to get comfortable enough at 3B. His 50th game was today. I often figured Super 2 would come into play more by coincidence than by design. At this point though, if the org has just now seen the things they were looking for before they could be comfortable enough to bring him up, why not take a week or so to be more comfortable? In this case that week could also be worth $10M over the course of his arb years (best case scenario). So, an extra week of reps and coaching looks and $10M? I'm with Dave... win-win! Actually, I agree with pretty much everything about Dave's post... There are going to be lots of factors going into a decision like this, not all of them to do with Lawrie himself.

Mike Green - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 09:45 PM EDT (#235723) #
There was a recent study published about the expected "safe" call-up date for Super 2 status. The article suggests that the safe date is likely to be significantly later this year, and in fact will be late in June.
Thomas - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 09:57 PM EDT (#235724) #
I often figured Super 2 would come into play more by coincidence than by design.

It very well may. I don't think the fact he's called up on June 3rd (or June 23rd, as I was unaware of the study referenced by Mike Green) whatever date is a couple of days after the cutoff) would be determinative of Super-2 status being the only reason Lawrie is in the minors right now. But, I do think it would be evidence that would suggest this consideration played a role in the front office's decision and I was curious if TamRa would change/become less convinced of her conclusions if that was the case.

Gerry - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#235725) #
I don't believe super two status is keeping Lawrie in LV. It could be a combination of two things. First Lawrie may indeed have more to learn in LV. The huge numbers he is putting up do not mean he will automatically succeed in the AL East. Defensively a lack of errors does not mean readiness. Baseball is a game where there are a huge number of combinations of circumstances players have to deal with, some are rare. The Jays need Lawrie to get as much experience as he can in many of those situations before he has to learn on the job at the major league level.

Secondly AA is about creating value. If Lawrie is called up then either Nix or EE will probably have to come off the roster. (I am assuming McCoy goes when Lind comes back and Thames and Snider are, in the short term, interchangeable). AA thinks both Nix and EE have value and he will wait to see if he can get something of value for them.

For that reason I don't think Lawrie comes up until mid-June to late-July, whenever AA can make a trade.
Spifficus - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:18 PM EDT (#235726) #
Oh, I know, Thomas. I was just using your post as a launching point to expound upon how Super 2 can legitimately (and responsibly) be a factor without it being the factor. For most, if not all of the season, it probably wasn't even on the back burner, because there were other things the organization was looking for before they'd consider the call-up.
Alex Obal - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#235727) #
Stupid question of the day: What kind of numbers would Lawrie be putting up if he'd been playing in Dunedin or New Hampshire?
TamRa - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 11:00 PM EDT (#235728) #
"Will you change...?"

Not at all. I subscribe to the notion that on this team and in this economic situation (taking them at their word) if Lawrie, or whoever, is good enough to be worried about the implications of Super Two, that said player will be extended long before his 4th arb year.

It's worth nothing that they had a very obvious opportunity to manipulate service time while losing very little, if any, on field performance by holding back Drabek. They didn't.

cybercavalier - Sunday, May 29 2011 @ 11:29 PM EDT (#235729) #
First of the bat, Re Alex Obal:

I think Lawrie will just perform similarly because his hitting stats are quite ridiculously brillant.

And excellent post by Gerry which I agree with completely, especially on AA's management style. Looking into the important player transaction history during AA's tenure, they can all be explained by value exchanging:

1) signing Alex Gonzalez 2.0 and trade him for Escobar: creating value in a veteran SS and exchanging him with prospects deemed expendable (Pastronicky, Collins) for talented SS in his devalued form due to his poor performance in Atlanta.
2) trading Brent Wallace for Anthony Gose: increasing the Jays' value by trading a top rated 1B prospect known mostly for hitting value for an outfield prospect who could potentially be a monster value. And the ML Jays team didn't need a 1B value instantly with Overbay and Lind's presence.
3) trading Brandon League and a minor leaguer who was on fire for Morrow, a starting pitcher with unclear duty: reliever value is easy to get whereas quality starter value is hard. And with his minor league development program, that minor league outfielder value is expandable.
4) built 2011 team around reliever, speed and base stealing: creating new value against opponent who would have accustomed to the hit for power of 2010 Jays.
5) the transactions on Miguel Olivo: creating value in acquiring draft picks.
6) transactions on reacquiring EE: creating more balanced value for EE's performance in the eyes of Jays' management.
7) trading Marcum for Lawrie: exchanging abundant pitcher value who is more or less stable for a prospect who could potentially be monster value.
8) getting Nix: probably a copy of the tactic on Alex Gonzalez 2.0.

So along these lines, I follow Gerry`s analysis on EE and Nix`s values. Also along these lines, I assume the Jays would be interested in getting Jose Lopez to AAA Vegas: stocking up infield value who has sunk to the bottom of his former all star value could potentially provide good return.

And thanks Thomas for the report.
brent - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 12:05 AM EDT (#235730) #
cybercav, I think you're giving GM AA too much credit above and not enough for moving Wells ^^
cybercavalier - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 12:25 AM EDT (#235731) #
brent, yeah, I would agree. But IMO, moving Wells and his contract don`t as a matter of fact create more value, but provide more budget flexibility for acquiring value. Maybe, I will be more neutral towards AA. And I am not good at wording... One thing I would like to see though, is investing these newly created value into Canadian baseball and Canada. The baseball trips in major Canadian cities and getting Vancouver as the new short season team are good management move towards that goal. After all, if AA is gone, Vancouver can still reap the rewards of baseball talent and baseball entertainment influx into British Columbia. So looking forward to getting a Canadian AAA team.
cybercavalier - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 12:43 AM EDT (#235732) #
O. Also IMO, the 3B 0-45 shall not be simply seen as a problem: of course 0-45 needs improvement but the Jays decided at the start of the season to move Bautista to RF instead of 3B. Otherwise, we would have a Rivera, Patterson, Davis outfield with Thames chipping in.  The trivial answer to the problem is exactly the above: move Bautista to 3B but why hasn`t the Jays done it ?Maybe there is something else ... Creating value in EE can also be an answer.
uglyone - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 01:00 AM EDT (#235733) #
I think the answer is that Bautista is our best RF, and he's not really a competent 3B.

And the second part of the answer is that their best prospect is about to take over the 3B position for a long, long time.
92-93 - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 02:06 AM EDT (#235735) #
It bares mentioning that Tony LaCava was sent to Las Vegas, presumably to scope out how the likes of Lawrie, Snider, and Cecil are doing. I wouldn't be surprised if Lawrie's callup is more imminent than people in this thread seem to be suggesting.

Where's this study that's projecting the Super-2s for 2014? I'd love to know where they are getting the end of June from, because we are already past the latest date that Super-2 has ever mattered (58 days into the regular season). Furthermore, CAA Management has projected that the 2012 Super-2s will have 2.145 years of service and above, which is a date that would have passed in the first week of May this year. I'd be interested in how the study is predicting there will be a whack of players with around 2.100 years of service heading into 2014.
brent - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 03:34 AM EDT (#235737) #
92-93, do you have a link about LaCava going?
lexomatic - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 08:50 AM EDT (#235743) #
Re: Wells. This wonderful post on fangraphs suggests he's the easiest in the league to get rid of in terms of using extra pitches. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/what-battling-at-the-plate-actually-means/ I remember many quick at-bats from him, so this doens't seem a surprise
Flex - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 09:19 AM EDT (#235744) #
Something not often discussed, but I think the front office pays attention to the circumstances under which a player is brought up. In other words, I think AA would be loathe to promote Lawrie to the Majors during a time of crisis, when 3B is a mess and the team is losing. Because it would put undue pressure on Lawrie to be some sort of saviour.

Much better to bring him up when the team is thriving and his at-bats are just part of the flow rather than something on which success or failure hangs.
Gwyn - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:00 AM EDT (#235752) #
There was a recent study published about the expected "safe" call-up date for Super 2 status...

Mike - Can you remember where you saw this? I'd like to read it.
uglyone - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:13 AM EDT (#235754) #
Where's this study that's projecting the Super-2s for 2014? I'd love to know where they are getting the end of June from, because we are already past the latest date that Super-2 has ever mattered (58 days into the regular season). Furthermore, CAA Management has projected that the 2012 Super-2s will have 2.145 years of service and above, which is a date that would have passed in the first week of May this year. I'd be interested in how the study is predicting there will be a whack of players with around 2.100 years of service heading into 2014.

I was wondering the same thing.
Mike Green - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:20 AM EDT (#235756) #
Never mind.  The study suggested that 20 more days of service in 2012 will be required, not 20 days less. In which case, the "Super 2" safe date has passed already. Ugh.



92-93 - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:24 AM EDT (#235757) #
Right. That's the CAA study I referenced, which referred to next year's crop of Super-2s. It has no predictive value for Lawrie's situation.

Brent, Blair was talking on the Fan on Friday I believe about LaCava's trip to Vegas.
Mike Green - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:39 AM EDT (#235759) #
True.  Addition, subtraction, who cares?  2011, 2012, what's the difference?  I guess I need a holiday.
85bluejay - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 12:06 PM EDT (#235762) #
Mike Green - it seems you haven't gotten over Stephen Harper's victory
Mike Green - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#235767) #
Nah, it's not (Brian) Harper, (Greg W.) Harris or (Andy) Hudak.  It's more like a reliever who has thrown 7 days running.
Alex Obal - Monday, May 30 2011 @ 11:40 PM EDT (#235792) #
His arm is hamburger meat.
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