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Here it is, the thread to talk Cheer Club strategy for Monday and Tuesday's games. And yes, we will have the drum, so come on out and join us in section 518, which is quickly becoming the Loudest Section in SkyDome.
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_Mike in CT - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:17 PM EDT (#64795) #
It would be great if the Cheer Club could grow big enough and take over the SkyDome and become the loudest stadium in baseball. That would really get the Jays pumped and give them that extra incentive to challenge the Red Sox and Yankees.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:22 PM EDT (#64796) #
Thomas had a brilliant idea of making a pile of Theodore Roosevelt heads that we'd line up for strikeouts instead of Ks (in honor of Mr. Lilly's full name). Anyone got a link to a high-resolution image of Roosevelt? What American money does he appear on?
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:32 PM EDT (#64797) #
Here's a straightforward head shot that could probably be cropped slightly to fit nicely. Not sure if the resolution is what you're searching for or not.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:34 PM EDT (#64798) #
Might be a little small.

I found a couple that we can maybe use. How many should I make? 10 enough?
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:36 PM EDT (#64799) #
COMN -- is that recognizeable as Roosevelt?
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:49 PM EDT (#64800) #
I would say it is, but I don't know if I speak for everyone. I think its as recognisable as you're going to get.

Lilly struck out 8 against Minnesota in April in a CG. Other than that his next highest this year is 6. Seems like 10 would be a pretty safe number and if Lilly screws us and pulls a Sheets, good for him.

We'll need to have some tape up there. Can't forget that.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#64801) #
Do you have some handy that you could bring? I don't have any good tape that I can steal from the store here.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 01:58 PM EDT (#64802) #
Does anyone else? If we don't get a reply within 90 minutes, I'll stop by Shoppers and see what I can do.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#64803) #
Should I add a K or anything to that image, or just print it as-is? Think it's self-explanatory enough?
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#64804) #
I think a cheer club sign would be good for noterity as well. Also, I hope some gets there early enough to actually secure the front row of 518 so we have a place for these signs.

I wonder what the actual Jays think of our drum. Does it pump them up, or does it distract them as they once said about the band in the stands?
Craig B - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:03 PM EDT (#64805) #
Aaron, I would add a K in one corner.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:05 PM EDT (#64806) #
Also, I hope some gets there early enough to actually secure the front row of 518 so we have a place for these signs.

We can't have the front row with the drum -- we have to be in the upper half.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#64807) #
I would sudgest a circular frame around the Teddy image if possible, much like the Thomas entry.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#64808) #
I wouldn't add a K in the corner myself. People have to be able to figure it out.

That presents a problem. How do we put up these signs when we have to be about 10 rows up when we have the drum? We usually sit about the 10th row, and they are fine with that. However, that still leaves the Roosevelt heads and the drum seperate and not connected. Ideally, it could all be seen to be part of teh cheer club.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:10 PM EDT (#64809) #
Geez you guys are picky. ;)

I'll post a sample in a few minutes.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:12 PM EDT (#64810) #
Thomas speaks of my concerns about the need for front row signage and mid row druming. Unless we move into more deserted areas of the 500 where we can place our signs in the front row, hang out with the drum, and then run to the front when its time to post a K
_Grand Funk Rail - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:17 PM EDT (#64811) #
It's too bad you guys can't be front and centre of 518.
If all was fair, you would have the drum in the front row, directly above a banner hanging off the 500-level facade.

I'll be at Tuesday's game with my lady.
I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing the drum first-hand.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:18 PM EDT (#64812) #
If it's empty in front of us for a few rows, the Ks should be reasonably visible.

We'll figure something out.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#64813) #
Maybe we could place the drum like 3rd row, if we speak to an usher. I mean, I would think their primary concern is safety if it fell over, and the third row isn't a big danger, and then others can still hang out in the first row with the Roosevelt Heads and any other signs.
_Grand Funk Rail - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#64814) #
It's too bad the game isn't televised.
You guys would get air time, guaranteed.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:26 PM EDT (#64815) #
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:27 PM EDT (#64816) #
K or no K? I need to know now so I can get them all printed in time.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#64817) #
Let me just re-cooperate from laughing long enough to say dont change a bloody thing and print away you miracle worker you.
_Rob - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:36 PM EDT (#64818) #
If you aren't doing it already, print those off. Very nice.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#64819) #
Thanks! Two votes is enough to get the printer rolling.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:39 PM EDT (#64820) #
I expected the K to look worse, I don't mind those either.

It'd be nice to have a roll call for the Jays this game, but our fearless leader is deserting us for the first inning...;)
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:41 PM EDT (#64821) # that seems really hard to do from the 5th deck.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:42 PM EDT (#64822) #
Im still curious if the Jays actually enjoy our drumming or if it bugs the heck out of them. Maybe we should keep the drumming a steady rhythm and nothing flashy while the Jays are at bats.
_Jonny German - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#64823) #
Not to make more work for Aaron, but does anybody else think it would be funny if the first 4 or 5 strikeouts were Theodore Roosevelts, then the next one a teddy bear, then a lingerie teddy? Maybe even a couple T.R.s between the bear and the lingerie to make the second funnier.

A couple association / notoriety ideas:

Something to tell folks at home what section to ask for (or avoid) when coming out to the Dome, i.e. 518 – LOUDEST SECTION IN THE DOME (better if we can come up with a snappy version of this)

Get “O-Drum” into Joe Fan’s vernacular, i.e.: THE O-DRUM LOVES THE O-DOG
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:47 PM EDT (#64824) #
Let's play it by ear and see what happens tonight.

I still haven't seen the drum in action! Arrrgh.

My train gets into Union around 7:10, so I should be up to 518 by 7:30 or 7:40. Bird Droppings doesn't get off work until 7:00, so I don't know what time he'll be out with the drum.

If someone gets there early it might make sense to get a front row of 518 ticket anyways, so we can at least flip the Ks there.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:49 PM EDT (#64825) #
I'll work on a Loudest Section banner for tomorrow's game.

I love the idea of different Teddys! Maybe we can turn it into a running gag and add something different for each of Lilly's starts.
_SNAKE - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:55 PM EDT (#64826) #
Listen Folks,

The Cheer Club you fanatics have assembled is slowly going to re-define the atmosphere @ the Dome and Baseball North in General. Sure right now you get a few chuckles from the fan 590 announcers, or draw the attention of some of the fans as you bang away on that drum overhead. And tonight, pulling out the New K's, it will be another step towards making a name for yourselves.

BUT, it will only be a forgotten trend with time. To leave a mark, you must do the unthinkable. We need a D-DAY event. Im proposing we set a date far away- like in July or the first game against the YANKEES. That way NO ONE has any excuses to miss it. We gather hundreds- if not THOUSANDS of die-hard fans, or just ppl willing to cheer, and take over the entire upper deck. We bring in the symbols, the drum, signs that extend 4 sections, all wear entire BLUE attire, create 'the sea of blue'.......and rock that MOTHER F$Ck@#n dome and blow those yankee bastured fans away
_Joby - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#64827) #
Damn Snake.... you got ALOT of enthusiasm.

CHEERS to ya bro. If you come to tonights game, wander up to 518 and become part of the family.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:58 PM EDT (#64828) #
and I spelled my own name wrong....

strike one.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 02:59 PM EDT (#64829) #
Isn't BD from Coburg, or does he work downtown? I might be a few minutes late myself, so if anyone there can save 518...
_Brent - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:01 PM EDT (#64830) #
Maybe Ted Danson heads for his next start?
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:04 PM EDT (#64831) #
Eek, does BD work in Coburg? Thomas, your friend with a drum want to bring his? ;)

Snake, I'm totally up for that. The Yankees are an evil, hated foe, and it would be just fantastic to thow them so far off of their game that they look like little leaguers.

Why don't we aim to start taking over 518, like all of it, for that series? Then we can slowly expand out from there.
Thomas - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:47 PM EDT (#64832) #
Aaron, BD told me during last week's game that he wasn't working right now, I think. He definately told me he was from Coburg. But if you have the impression he's coming, that must mean something. Is there any way to get in contact with him?

I can check with my friend, but I'm almost postive he's busy, and he mentioned his drum wasn't as good as BD's.
_Matt S - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:50 PM EDT (#64833) #
I also think SNAKE's idea is amazing. I live in Stratford, and can't afford to go to many games each year. But if a specific date were set for Snake's idea soon, I'd reserve my 518 seats now and bring along every Jays fan (hardcore or not) to that game.

Let's do this. I think it has real potential.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:51 PM EDT (#64834) #
It's just my normal organizational panic setting in. BD said he'd be coming but a little late. If you're reading this, BD, post and make me relax a bit, kay? ;)

All ten Teds have been printed and are ready to go.
_Matt S - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#64835) #
...I mean I'll bring every Jays fan I know.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 03:52 PM EDT (#64836) #
Especially against the Yankees.... there's nothing worse than people living in T.O. who latch on to the Yankees because they usualy win. We shut the Bostonians and wannabe Bostonians up on Sunday, I say an effort like this could even shut up filthy New Yorkers.
Dave Till - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#64837) #
The pro-Jays crowd noise was noticeable on Sunday's radio broadcast - keep up the good work, everybody!
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 04:37 PM EDT (#64838) #
Heh, a customer just walked into the store here and looked all confused and asked "Why do you have so many pictures of Theodore Roosevelt?"

That was a hard one to explain.
_Jobu - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 04:41 PM EDT (#64839) #
For some reason everytime i look at the Teddy-K picture, I keep hearing Krusty's voice saying "Let's get BIZAY!" even though he was talking about Dwight D Eisnhower. Still makes the picture twice as funny.
_Alex - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 05:22 PM EDT (#64840) #
Hey - I'm the poor lonely soul who stumbled upon the Cheer Club after being deserted early in the game by a "work"-swamped infidel Friday night. I should be good to go for tonight, and I usually get to the dome 15 minutes before game time.

I can bring my garbage bag of Generic K's to placehold until the Roosevelts get here.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 05:29 PM EDT (#64841) #
Fantastic, Alex! I'll be there around 7:30 or so. I have a new home grey Jays cap and orange shoes, I'm easy to spot.
_Fawaz K - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 05:29 PM EDT (#64842) #
I'm probably out for this series (summer school), though i'll try to make it in Tuesday. In any event, someone PLEASE heckle Hunter (career OBP .317) to the effect of 'you really are like spiderman; he can't get on the bases either' (but make it a little choppier). I know he's up to close to .340 this season, but it's just so current!
_Fawaz K - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 05:31 PM EDT (#64843) #
By the way, it ain't easy trying to identify bauxites up in 518. You guys should print up t-shirts or something...
_Tyler - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 06:00 PM EDT (#64844) #
Don't know if it was your doing or not, but the Dome was much louder than usual on Sunday, with derisive chants, much excitement on X-2 counts, and a big cheer for the free pizza. I usually sit in the 100 level, but I've been telling my girlfriend tons about this website, so I could probably convince her to head up to 518 for a game with me. If there is interest in trying to take over a section, I am definitely in.
Named For Hank - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#64845) #
I missed all the weekend games, so I'm still waiting for more reports from the troops about who did what. Hope to see you up there, Tyler.

I'm off to catch the train, see you guys at the game.
_Dan H - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 07:38 PM EDT (#64846) #
Im proposing we set a date far away- like in July or the first game against the YANKEES. That way NO ONE has any excuses to miss it.

I live a few hours away from the Dome, so don't make many games, but I'm all up for this, and will bring as many people as I can.
_JBR - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 07:40 PM EDT (#64847) #
If I'm in town, I am in. (Duty may call.)
_Niles - Monday, May 17 2004 @ 11:40 PM EDT (#64849) #
Are the tickets in the 518 section for Tuesdays game $2.00?
_bird droppings - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:34 AM EDT (#64850) #
Fudge. Dudes, I am so sorry. I had to work tonight.. 18 hours on a Bell Wireless Informercial! Fun fun fun. It was only suppose to go til' 7, but like all film shoots it went to just after midnight. Ah well... Apologies. First off, I gotta make a few suggestions/ points.

1. The o drum is friggin' huge and fat and can be the most ackward thing sometimes. I'm going to build a stand tomorrow and then we'll see how that works out. However, if it doesn't work I gotta stand in the aisle way or my back will just eventually give up.

2. We gotta think of something clever for a name... we can't just can't throw a banner up that says 'Cheer Club.' That'd just be sorta lame. However, I take a huge drum to games so who am I too complain?

3. Aaron and Co. - I'm currently in discussions with the PR department about getting us a permenant section that'd be for the drum thus to stop over crowding around the o drum. I'll give you peeps updates whenever I find something out.

I think that's all... I'll be ONE MILLION PERCENT SURE to be at Tuesday's game as I don't work and I'll bring out some people and the section will be no longer the cheer club, but rather the cheer circus. That is all, see you Tuesday just before 7.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:38 AM EDT (#64851) #
Shame about the drum, the whole time we were there, looking at the sad crowd we were thinking "Man... I wish we had the drum". And the HAMMER did fudge-all tonight... double damn.

Hope i can be there tuesday if i get enough studying done.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 07:07 AM EDT (#64852) #
Are the tickets in the 518 section for Tuesdays game $2.00?


BD, no worries. See you tonight.

JKCL, that's a riot.
_Grand Funk Rail - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 08:55 AM EDT (#64853) #
I'm up for a July Yankee Bash, too.
I'm pretty sure I could round up about 30 people or so to go.

See you all tonight.
I'll be wearing a Jays 2002 Spring Training T-Shirt.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:32 AM EDT (#64854) #
Looking forward to meeting you, GFR!

I've switched jerseys for tonight -- I'll be wearing a dark blue 1989 button up along with the new home grey cap.

So, what sign am I making today?
_Grand Funk Rail - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:41 AM EDT (#64855) #
What about 'L' signs instead of K's, superimposed over various pieces of art.

El Artista
'L' Art-ista

I'm weak this morning.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:45 AM EDT (#64856) #
Suggestions for a name:

Dawg Pound's been about the O' Kennel? (or not)

The birdcage? I've gotta say, nothing about this team or venue is condusive to any sort of naming!

OOOOOH - DOME TEAM?...yes? no? ok...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#64857) #
nobody other than the bauxites will get the El Artista bit though...This is a reach but how about San Miguel beer bottles?
_Grand Funk Rail - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:51 AM EDT (#64858) #
What if we turn it around.
We could hang pictures of famous sets of twins for each K.
There could be K's over their eyes (reminiscent of old cartoon's where they have X's for eyes when they're dead).

Or, I'm getting even weaker as the morning goes on...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:53 AM EDT (#64859) #
OLSENS! Lots and lots of OLSENS!
_Daryn - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 09:59 AM EDT (#64860) #
Jobu was asking if the drum would be a distraction.. like the band was.

One time the pitcher warmed up real quick and he walked around the mound once and arrived at the rubber just as we finished a song, so we were pretty sure he could hear us and waited...

but when it was a problem the coach just radioed up to the local security and the message was passed...

My guess is a rhythmic druming is probably NOT a distraction, but if I was a batter I wouldn't want to be thinking about it... judgement call.. but usually its the OTHER teams fans yelling "SWING" in the middle of the pitch, not the batting teams fans...

Isn't there a section somewhere around 515 that has a set of railings part way up? It might be a handicap section or something... failing that, could you get a couple empty rows and just hang the signs right in the middle of the section??

have fun guys, one time I'll join you!

_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 10:12 AM EDT (#64861) #
Anyone else take the GO from Mississausage? None of my buddies are baseball fans and it sucks trying to get psyched for a game when you're headed down to SkyDome alone :( Let me know, I leave from Streetsville.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 10:43 AM EDT (#64862) #
I think if we can't come up with another K idea as goofy and brainy as the Teddy Ks we should hold off. Quality, not quantity, right?

I hereby nominate Teddy K as the official mascot of the Cheer Club.

Fawaz, I come from Oakville on the GO, which is also a bit of a lonely trip in, but I have crafted some good iTunes playlists to get me all jazzed up pre-game.

I'd meet up with you, but I think we're on different lines. What station are you getting on at?
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 10:47 AM EDT (#64863) #
My dad just called me at work and asked, "So, uh, did you make Theodore Roosevelt heads or something yesterday?"
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 11:54 AM EDT (#64864) #
Maybe we should just admit we're stumped for El-Artista's K's and just put up "?" 's .

Or failing that, pictures of twinkies with the red no-smoking circle over it.
_Tenobia - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 12:30 PM EDT (#64865) #
How about a paint brush and pallette? Not everyone may know the El Artista nickname, but most would get the reference to a pitcher painting the corners.

Or you could use the letter M with a bat, as in the flying rodent type bat. Something like the Batman logo.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 12:31 PM EDT (#64866) #
I like the Twinkies idea. How many more games do we have against the Twins at home this year? These things have to have some re-useability, after all.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 12:32 PM EDT (#64867) #
Ooh, a Batman-style M-bat. Now that's clever.

All those in favor?
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 12:52 PM EDT (#64868) #
I dont get it...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:03 PM EDT (#64869) #
M-iguel BAT-ista...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:06 PM EDT (#64870) #
I like the idea of using the Gemini symbol with the no-smoking style red circle...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:08 PM EDT (#64871) #
Or the San Miguel beer bottles (I mean, Saint Miguel??? THAT should be his nickname!).
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:12 PM EDT (#64872) #

Something like this?
_bird droppings - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:13 PM EDT (#64873) #
Personally, if you're looking for a sign to make...

PHELPS! We Need Somebody. PHELPS! Not Just Anybody!

That is never going to get old to me. Thanks to the person who came up with that.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:17 PM EDT (#64874) #
COMN. Tell me that wouldn't look great? And then I get to sing about bottles of beer on the wall...
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:26 PM EDT (#64875) #
If you can find me a large picture of the bottle without hands holding it (and that you can clearly read the Miguel on the label), I'll see what I can do with it.

Link or e-mail it to me (COMN).
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:31 PM EDT (#64876) #
Maybe we could go completly left field on everyone and put a symbol that makes no sense at all. People will look up at it and go "What the *%$#?". El Artista would be proud of our artistic expression. Or the bat symbol.... either or.
_SNAKE - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:43 PM EDT (#64877) #
The Insurrection

There are moments in sports that will forever be etched in history. As Toronto Blue Jay fans, there have been a few, but all of which are decades old- the near triple-play, Robbie Alomar mocking the chop as he was rounding third and scored against Atlanta in the ’92 World series, and of course, Joe Carters triumphant World Series clinching homerun.

Since 1993, the Jays fell off the map. The fans, if any, fell off the face of the planet. It is now 2004, and it is TIME for a revolution.

The Insurrection will occur. Mark this day in your calendar: July 26, 2004. This will be a day that will live in infamy. I didn’t come hear to tell you people how it will end- I came here to tell you- this is how it begins. I am not going to run through specific details of what exactly what will go down on this day. But I did to come here to tell you things will never, EVER be that same at the Sky Dome again.

1,000 strong forces in section 518.
A sea of blue to mesmerize the pin stripes.
And heckles that will target every player from Enrique Wilson, to Jorge Posada, to Steinbrener himself.

Tell your family, tell your friends, tell your neighbors, and tell strangers. The Insurrection will happen. Things have been set in motion that cannot be stopped. The beating of the drum will echo the beating of Joe Torre’s heart, when he realizes, THE INSURRECTION cannot be stopped. And a sign…



And after that final out we get in the top of the ninth, we sing once and for all to the Yankees and their hostile fans who entered our building:

“da na na na…… NA NA NA NA- HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE’’
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:50 PM EDT (#64878) #
Snake, did you ever know that you're my hero?
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#64879) #
Sniff, sniff - that was beautiful, man! Here's to a 'yankees suck' chant that'll topple that giant penis next to SkyDome.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:55 PM EDT (#64880) #
Right on, Snake, right on. I'm recruiting friends and family.

What day of the week is that?
Craig B - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:55 PM EDT (#64881) #
...You're everything I would like to be...
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 01:57 PM EDT (#64882) #
You are the wind beneath the Blue Jay's wings.

The 26th is a monday. 2nd game of the series.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:12 PM EDT (#64883) #
So what's the verdict on the M-bat? Decidedly indifferent?
_Grand Funk Rail - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#64884) #
Can we get a seperate thread started for SNAKE'S groundbreaking idea?
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:13 PM EDT (#64885) #
Absolutely. Gimme thirty seconds. ;)
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#64886) #
So far, out of the idea's presented, if we have to use one, Id say either the M-Bat or the NO-Twinkie.

Insurrection night would be great to unviel a giant A-Rod on a dollar bill banner.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:21 PM EDT (#64887) #
The other thread is up.

I was thinking that Jeter and A-Rod could be together on a half-billion dollar bill.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:22 PM EDT (#64888) #
And Daubach on a dime?
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:24 PM EDT (#64889) #
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:35 PM EDT (#64890) #
So anyhoo,leaving Daubach alone for a second, which "K" is it going to be? And will there be any other type of banners such as CHEER CLUB or WELCOME TO SKYDOME, HOME OF THE HAMMER.... etc?
_Niles - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:37 PM EDT (#64891) #
Hey Craig B,

I think I'm coming tonight, maybe we can discuss if you still think Todd Helton is a better player than Manny Ramirez. :)
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:40 PM EDT (#64892) #
Id say Helton is a better player just by how offended he got that time Cabbie asked him if he "pimps" his homeruns.
_Brett Smith - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:45 PM EDT (#64893) #
I believe that Miguel Batista has a poster of Albert Einstein in his locker. I suggest an Einstein with K=mc2 as a worthy rival for the Teddy K.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:52 PM EDT (#64894) #
Thats not to shabby....

I like the Style of the M-Bat but the substance of the K=mc2. Now I know what it feels like to be a Johnny Damon fan.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#64895) #
Einstein is not bad.

I say we should hold off on a fancy K for Batista and keep throwing ideas out there until the perfect one hits us. We also need ones for Doc, Miller and Hentgen and some for the bullpen, too.

Any banner ideas? Otherwise I'm making LOUDEST SECTION IN SKYDOME.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:00 PM EDT (#64896) #
For Doc, I still like the perscription Rx. Its catchy and everyone can get it. And it actually makes sense, like he was perscribing strikeouts.

For hentgen i was thinking P-(picture of a star) in regards to his moustache, but i dont know if the Skydome Gestapo would be cool with that. Maybe just Cy-Young Trophies.

It'd be nice to have photo's of Tattoo's "I love billy koch" tattoo for his K's.

Lets make sure the crowd isnt as anemic as last night before wiping out any "Loudest Section" banners ;)
_Tenobia - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:07 PM EDT (#64897) #
Since Pat's from Detroit, how about a picture of a K-car.
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#64898) #
Tenobia, that's a scream. Someone find me a picture of a K-car.
Craig B - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:17 PM EDT (#64899) #
Yeah, Helton's still better, but I ain't coming tonight! Sorry. :(
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:20 PM EDT (#64900) #
So who is coming tonight? Me, Mrs. Hank, BD with the drum, GFR, Niles, and Jobu if he gets enough studying done. That's my list so far. Whaddabout the rest of ya? It's two buck night tonight!
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:22 PM EDT (#64901) #
How do you post a picture in this forum? I found what i think is a K-car from 1996 (i think you all know why ;) )

Id like to post it for all to evaluate before i continue searching.

Damn, i should really be studying right now.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#64902) #
I'll be there (hopefully...)
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:25 PM EDT (#64903) #
You can put it in the "homepage" box and tell us to click on your name. Or the fancy way, with HTML, can be seen in the FAQ.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:32 PM EDT (#64904) #
The FAQ said how to link to it, but how does one make it magicaly appear like you (NFH) did with the Teddy K and M-Bat?
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:46 PM EDT (#64905) #
(img src="" /)

But replace the ( and ) with < and >.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:53 PM EDT (#64906) #
If you guys are gonna use the M-Bats, please stick a spiderman up there if he gets Hunter. I hate Hunter...
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:55 PM EDT (#64907) #
This isn't an original piece, but ClipArt's got this fencer dude that looks like a 'K' and for whatever reason I find fencing to be very Batista.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#64908) #
Is there anyway to show or attach something that's not online?
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:58 PM EDT (#64909) #
Testing 1,2,3....

_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#64910) #
ahhhh... damnit.

FINE. Lousy powers that be have to ruin all my fun. Just COMN for the 1996 Oldsmobile Ciera. Which may or may not be a K-car.
_Niles - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#64911) #
Yeah, Helton's still better, but I ain't coming tonight! Sorry. :(

I understand how the park factors work and how part of Heltons 80 point drop off in AVG and 200 point drop off in SLG on the road have to do with Colorado hitters having to adjust to hitting differently on the road but that's a massive, massive drop off.

The fact that I can't think of a hitter who has left Colorado and not suffered a signifigant drop off (Cirrillo comes to mind) and the fact that Vinny Castilla is in the top 10 in hitting (come on, Vinny Castilla sucks) in the NL make me pretty suspicious of the conservative park adjusted figures I've seen for Helton.

Honestly, if you put Ramirez in that Park, I think he has a very good shot at the triple crown and he flirts with .400.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:03 PM EDT (#64912) #
COMN. I'm thinking of the one in the 2nd column, 3rd row.
Craig B - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#64913) #
I'm not getting into the Coors Road Effect right now, but it's real and persistent. Quoting tangotiger...

"In a fanhome study last year [2002], MGL took Colorado hitters. He then split them up into:
1 - while with Colorado, playing on the road
2 - while not with Colorado, playing on the road, and not at Coors

Their performance in situation 1 was worse than their performance in situation 2. That is, being with Colorado messes them up. If you look at the breakdown of their numbers, you see that the hitters actually change their hitting approach."

It's significant. Estimates range from (as I recall) 9-17% underperformance in terms of runs created on the road.
Craig B - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:13 PM EDT (#64914) #
Manny would continue to be a slightly better hitter than Helton, if you put him into Coors. As he is. He's enough of a defensive liability in the small LF in Fenway, of course; he'd be death in the big pasture in LF in Coors Field. He'd probably give away nearly as many hits as he would gain.

Helton passes Ramirez not on offense (he's behind) but on the defensive end, where he is a Gold Glove first baseman.
_Niles - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:18 PM EDT (#64915) #
I also wouldn't mind seeing stats on how much better opposing teams hit coming into Coors vs. away from Coors.
_Cristian - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:19 PM EDT (#64916) #
So I assume if Lilly and Batista have their K symbols, then the other starters need symbols as well. Here's my suggestions:

Halladay (the K can be added to the ball

And here's something for you to watch, just because I had to during my image search.
Thomas - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:22 PM EDT (#64917) #
I guess this is late but what about anti-Spiderman signs, to put up whenever Hunter doesn't succeed?

NFH, that story with your dad made me laugh. I should be there tonight.
Thomas - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:24 PM EDT (#64918) #
We need something for Oh-for-Thrivas.....he's so easy to pick on.
Mike Green - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#64919) #
Craig, I missed that MGL study. Fascinating. I'd call it "Swelled Head Syndrome". I somehow doubt that the corresponding positive effect is seen for pitchers. It does seem harder to build a winning team in a ballpark that significantly favors hitters than one that favours pitchers. Maybe this is the explanation.
Thomas - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:27 PM EDT (#64920) #
This or something like it for Kerry Ligtenberg. It kills me.

I think this image may be too small.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:28 PM EDT (#64921) #
Ahh, another Hunter-hater...
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:29 PM EDT (#64922) #
I just realized i have a bat-logo t-shirt i hardly wear. Let me know before 5 if we're going with the M-Bat and I'll wear it to the game and sit up front.
Thomas - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:30 PM EDT (#64923) #
Heck, we could even use John Adams for Terry Adams if you want to carry this on to an extreme. The Roosevelts are classic, and I still think the Kerry's are funny, especially if you put them up beside Teddy K. The Adams may be a step too far.
Thomas - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:32 PM EDT (#64924) #
I don't really hate him; I admire his defence. That being said, he is overrated offensively and he's a sinkhole for Minnesota's money (costing them the chance to keep Hawkins and soon others). Plus, the signs works on two levels. No Spiderman logos and no Torii "Spiderman" Hunter.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:34 PM EDT (#64925) #
Is it just me or does the association of El Artista, the poet, with dadadadadadadadadadadada batman seem a little off? I get the play on his name, but...
_Niles - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#64926) #
Rany Jazayerli over at BP:

Breaking it down into its component parts, then, we can more accurately say that Coors Field:

decreases strikeouts by about 14% (pre-humidor);
increases home runs by about 60%;
increases batting average on balls in play by about 49 points.
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:44 PM EDT (#64927) #
BTW NFH: I'll also be going with Snake to Wednesday's game incase you wanted to print out some Tattoo from Fantasy Island photos and intrust them with me to post up during Wednesday's game.
_Fawaz K - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 04:57 PM EDT (#64928) #
Well, my plan to go to the game just went down in flames; I guess I'll have to watch and listen to (ugh) Vic Rauter attempt intelligent commentary...At least I'll get to see the Ks you guys decided on. :(
_JBR - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:01 PM EDT (#64929) #
Follow up the Teddy Roosevelt heads with Fulgencio Batista heads. (

"Twenty years earlier Batista had become the strongman that would come to symbolize the heart and soul of Roosevelt's "Good Neighbor Policy." "

Now /that/'s deep.
_Grand Funk Rail - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:05 PM EDT (#64930) #
See you guys down there.
_JBR - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:06 PM EDT (#64931) #
For Justin Miller, there are a few choices:

* a stylized K that looks like a tattoo
* a K with a skull or skull/crossbones
* the "I love Billy Koch" tattoo, with the K enlarged
* Ray Bradbury's face
* something from the cover of The Illustrated Man
_Jobu - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:09 PM EDT (#64932) #
Well im off to the game, I'll bring my Bat-Shirt anyways just incase. Hopefuly NFH can settle on something for Tattoo so Snake and I can fly them proudly on Wednesday.

_Cristian - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:09 PM EDT (#64933) #
Ugghh. I seriously doubt that an intelligent person like Batista, who has professed a desire to study law, would want anything to do with Fulgencio Batista.
_JBR - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:11 PM EDT (#64934) #
Well it /was/ just a play on words and the Roosevelt connection. Not really a serious suggestion. :)
Named For Hank - Tuesday, May 18 2004 @ 05:20 PM EDT (#64935) #
See you guys down there. Work exploded into busy-ness, so I didn't print anything. Sorry.

* a stylized K that looks like a tatto

THAT is brilliant. A Sox-style K.

If only I had more time, aaaahhh!
_Mr 103 - Wednesday, May 19 2004 @ 10:01 PM EDT (#64936) #
I've always had a banner in mind that says 'Doc's tossing pills' with a photo of a couple pills on it
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