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Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos has confirmed the team will not re-sign free agent first baseman/DH Kevin Millar for next season in an interview with Shi Davidi of the Canadian Press

The 38 year-old Millar hit just .223/.311/.363 with 14 doubles, 7 homers and 29 RBI in 2009 with Toronto.  The right-handed hitter wasn't able to mash lefties as he hit just .250 with a .721 OPS and was definitely exposed against righties to the tune of a .191 BA and .615 OPS.  Like Vernon Wells, he hit much better away from Rogers Centre with a .256 BA as compared to his .190 mark at home.

Millar was the source of much criticism towards manager Cito Gaston as he was given a fair bit of playing time over the expense of Randy Ruiz.   What really drove the critics around the bend was Gaston's use of Millar in the clean-up spot where he hit just .186 in 43 at-bats with just two homers and four RBI.  The only spots he didn't hit at least once in the order were the first two.  His most success came in the seven-hole as he hit .280 over 118 at-bats.

This could be Millar's swan song in the bigs unless some other club becomes enamoured with his clubhouse charisma.  Maybe the Yankees or Rays will give him a shot if only to continue his tour of the American League East.

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greenfrog - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 08:09 PM EST (#207964) #
Millar actually scorched the ball in April, hitting 343/395/514. From a team perspective, this may have been one of the worst things that could have happened last year, because it likely cemented his status in Cito's mind as a bona fide (if aging) slugger. Here are his monthly lines for the rest of the season:

218/283/364
200/298/300
178/260/333
240/345/440
195/327/293

It's amazing how a series of numbers almost constitutes its own narrative. In any event, I suppose the Jays weren't going to contend with or without KM. But Cito's stiff-necked usage of Millar throughout the season doesn't bode well for 2010. It wouldn't surprise me if the Jays' clubhouse has once again become a powderkeg by June or July.
Jdog - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 08:50 PM EST (#207965) #
Is this the Gone and Forgotten thread?
Jim - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 09:01 PM EST (#207966) #
Is Tampa not in the AL East anymore?
lexomatic - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 09:02 PM EST (#207967) #
i would call this the gone & good riddance thread, jdog
#2JBrumfield - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 09:09 PM EST (#207968) #

Is Tampa not in the AL East anymore?

Noted and corrected.  I confused Millar with Eric Hinske as the player who was one team away from completing a tour of duty in each A.L. East city.

HollywoodHartman - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 11:04 PM EST (#207969) #
YES!
westcoast dude - Monday, November 02 2009 @ 11:32 PM EST (#207970) #
Adios.
katman - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 01:40 AM EST (#207971) #
I appreciate Kevin Millar coming to play for Toronto in 2009. I appreciate the way he conducted himself. His contract didn't hurt the team, so I'v no issue with that.

Using him in the #4 spot late in the season was clearly insane, but that's hardly his fault. Giving him playing time instead of Ruiz or Dopirak once it was clear that they had earned a shot was a mistake, yes, but again - not Millar's decision or fault.

Re-signing him would also be insane, so I'm glad we didn't. But I have no feelings of "good riddance," because Kevin Millar never earned that. All he did was go out and play hard whenever he was asked. Which is why I wish him good luck with any subsequent baseball career he has. And I expect he'll have one - though it may not be on the field after 2009.
christaylor - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 02:24 AM EST (#207972) #
I echo katman's sentiments - unless Millar was doing a Jedi mind trick on Cito, there's nothing to fault him for batting fourth.

It isn't Millar's departure that concerns me, he seems like a good clubhouse guy and will catch on somewhere -- it is that Cito will fall in love with next season. AA clearly can not tolerate this whatever the philosophy/plan is for 2010.

There's one and only one aging vet I could stomach being plugged into the Jays' lineup and this is purely for emotional reasons and that vet is Delgado, although in his case, I doubt his skills have degraded as much as Millar's. Delgado was classy when he was here and his exit felt too much like an accounting decision (a year later, the Jays could have easily afforded his contract and he'd have been a better contributor than anything the Jays have used at 1B since 1995). Sorry. Little rant there, I'd like to see Delgado back in a (blue) Jays uniform. I know it is irrational, I know my feelings stem partly from him being nice to my mother (who approached him) and myself. But there are worse things that this franchise could do than see Delgado play out his final years in Toronto.

Unlike many, I don't think a Lind-Wells-Snider OF would be too bad for a year. Get Delgado to DH. Beltre/Crede (depending on cost/term but stay away from Figgins that'd be a terrible signing) to play 3B. Adam Everett to play SS and roll the dice on Bedard or Harden. Pray to pythagoras for luck. If healthy, groom McGowan to be a closer. Not a hope of that happening, but such a team could possibly compete for the WC.
lexomatic - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 08:55 AM EST (#207975) #
it may not be millar`s fault that cito misused him, however it`s still good riddance if a player inspires that misuse (in whatever way from batting eyelashes to just being there and availalable. there can`t be too many bigger wastes of a roster spot than he was last year post april
92-93 - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 01:06 PM EST (#207977) #
Here comes the 2009 Wells wrist excuses.
Ozzieball - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 01:49 PM EST (#207978) #
I don't think a Lind-Wells-Snider OF would be too bad for a year

God forbid a ball make it to the outfield.
subculture - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 02:35 PM EST (#207983) #

Okay - I'll be the first.

After watching him repeatedly, and almost single-handedly lose multiple games by hitting like your momma in key moments with runners on during games that were still close, I posted at some point if it was Vernon's eyes that were the problem here.  How could an athletic, previously decent hitter, continue to hit weak pop-ups on completely hittable pitches that should be driven deep to the gaps?

I saw 2 problems with his bat:

1) He never seemed to look to drive the outside pitch the other way (though that was what pitchers always threw him)

2) When he actually got a pitch down the middle to hit, he'd pop it up to centerfield or center-infield.  His timing was there, but he was swinging too low!  The few times he'd crank it were on pitches high above his belt.

Now clearly #1 should not be affected by a wrist injury... but #2 in my mind could very much be related?  I suspected bad eyesight, but was it a wrist injury?  Is there in fact some light at the end of this horrid tunnel of despair?

Chuck - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 03:27 PM EST (#207988) #

There could well be an underlying cause for Wells' dismal 2009, but what if there is no cause at all other than just a rapid demise? And yes, part of that demise could be health issues that just never go away.

The members of the once talented outfield of yore all hit a wall early on. Barfield and Moseby each had their last good year at age 31. Bell's was at age 32. Could Wells' last good year have been at age 29? Is that too young to be lumped in with the other three?

Another player from that period, and one with an admittedly less impressive CV, was Kelly Gruber. He had his last good year at age 29.

I have no theories on the matter but I would say that Wells is due for a dead cat bounce in 2010, if nothing more. I'm sure those who are more optimistic are looking at his four-year OPS+ trend of 129, 85, 121, 87, and hoping for better. I know Wilner is big on citing Joe Carter's crummy age-30 season and pointing to what he did afterwards. But is that kind of recovery not more exception than rule?

Magpie - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 04:57 PM EST (#207995) #
The members of the once talented outfield of yore all hit a wall early on.

Which I always blamed on 1) the concrete surface at the old Ex, and 2) Jimy Williams' inability to give those guys a break by rotating them through the DH spot from time to time. Wasn't that what Rob Ducey was put on this earth for? Oh wait, they had Sil Campusano. The Immortal Sil Campusano.

Yeah, I'm so old I can remember this organization doing dumber things than playing Kevin Millar...
Chuck - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 05:10 PM EST (#207996) #

Wasn't that what Rob Ducey was put on this earth for?

I hear you. Rob Ducey had, to my mind, all the skills required to be a solid 4th outfielder. He could play all three outfield positions, had a lefthanded bat and could hit enough to contribute. The organization squandered his developmental years always keeping him around as an emergency valve, nothing more. By the time he got sprung free from Toronto, he was too old to really turn into something.

It was surprising to me to learn that so many years later he'd end up back with the organization that so unapologetically hampered his professional career.

Ron - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 06:13 PM EST (#207999) #
Since Millar has played his last game in the Majors (I don't think he will even get a camp invite next season), I want to thank him for his role on the 2004 Red Sox team. He sure loved to talk so a career in broadcasting would fit him.
Mike Green - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 09:48 PM EST (#208005) #
I ran a Play Index search to find a comparable year to Wells' 2009 (30 years old, 7th to 9th season, qualified for batting title, outfielder, more than 35 doubles, between 10 and 15 homers and OPS+ less than 90).  I got a big fat zero, to my surprise. 

When I loosened the requirement to more than 30 doubles, I got 3 players- Troy O'Leary, Mike Devereaux and Garry Maddox.  Wells was a better hitter than any of them up to age 29, but the career path of O'Leary and Devereaux is definitely a possibility in Wells' case.  Devereaux had put up good seasons at age 28 and 29, which would have fit into Wells' career reasonably well, and then struggled at 30 (1993).  Nothing good happened for him in the year of the strike (OPS+ of 48) and he was more or less done. 

John Northey - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 10:38 PM EST (#208007) #
Ugh, the old Campusano experiment. That was a disaster from the moment it was thought up of. I was also a fan of Ducey's and hated how he was up and down and all around with the Jays.

Checking the stats I see that it was 1988 that Ducey showed his stuff, hitting over 300 being used in a platoon role as the Jays tried to catch up to the Sox but far too little too late. The following year he was mixed and matched again with Hill but to less effect. There was potential there with Hill, Ducey, Felix, Whiten, etc. Sadly only Felix did anything here.
christaylor - Tuesday, November 03 2009 @ 11:10 PM EST (#208008) #
I a little to young to know the details of Junior Felix's Toronto career but has it ever come out that he was older than his 21 years when he made it to the Jays? He was out of the game at 26 and didn't have what Bill James called "old player skills".

Basically, I'm just wondering if it has come out post career that he was actually 4-5 years older than his listed D.O.B on B-R. He was nothing to write home about as a player but for some reason his play during the 1989 season really stuck out in my mind. I also had a "irrational kid favourite" in Gregg Jefferies (even had a signed hat) so its not as if the favourite players in my youth were exactly the superstars one would suspect. After Felix, Olerud became my favourite and my baseball fan memory begins as I have many of his lines memorized. He would have been appreciated much more in the eras of OBP/defence moneyball. Anyway, having Felix brought up gave me a trip down memory lane.

Sil Campusano, I recall vaguely and he's in a class in my memory with Manny Lee -- playing them was a good way for the Blue Jays to lose games.
Chuck - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 07:46 AM EST (#208010) #

has it ever come out that he [Junior Felix] was older than his 21 years

Magpie or Mike Green will probably remember the details. I seem to recall that it was definitely the case that Felix turned out, after his career, to be older -- a lot older -- than advertised, something on the order of 6 or 7 years. Yet all the stats sites still list his DOB as 1967 and Googling yields nothing. Perhaps no concrete evidence was ever found and his age fraud was nothing more than speculation, even if treated as fact in media circles.

Mike Green - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 09:14 AM EST (#208011) #
I don't remember anything more than Chuck about Junior Felix.   The whole thing was odd.  There was a smell about the Felix-Devon White trade, and I recall that it was "age-gate" that led the Ash-era Jays to end their relationship with Epy Guerrero. 

As it stands, Felix has one of the weirdest BBRef pages you'll see, as it ends at age 26 with an OPS+ of 128 in 350 PAs in 1994.  Usually, when you see a line like this at the end, it tells the story of a tragedy like Lyman Bostock or Austin McHenry. Even at age 33, that kind of success would usually mean that the player would continue to play.   I can find no reference to what Felix did after his playing days were over.

Magpie - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 09:24 AM EST (#208012) #
Perhaps no concrete evidence was ever found and his age fraud was nothing more than speculation, even if treated as fact in media circles.

That's pretty much it. I've actually heard speculation that he was a full ten years older than his listed age, but the assumption has always been five or six years. When he was signed in 1985 he was supposedly a month shy of his 18th birthday. Back then, we heard all the time about all of these outfield prospects who would soon be in Toronto - Hill, Whiten, Ducey, Campusano - but Felix surprisingly moved past them all and was the first one to establish himself as a major leaguer. It's not like he was tearing up the minor leagues.

He certainly didn't have old player skills, but I always thought he played baseball like someone who'd taken up the game fairly recently. My memory (for whatever that's worth!) says he was an outstanding soccer player in the Dominican before switching to baseball

I also have very grave doubts that Francisco Cabrera's age (he's listed as being born in October 1966) was ever reported accurately.
John Northey - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 10:16 AM EST (#208015) #
iirc Felix was a track and field guy when Epy found him and taught him baseball. His inside the park grand slam vs the Red Sox was a key moment early in his career here. I was positive this 21 year old guy would be a superstar. If he really was 21 that is. Instead I heard the 10 year thing which would fit his career fairly well, putting him near the outside edge of his peak when he reached the majors and getting up there when let go. An old favorite who I'd love to see used for a 'flashback Friday'.
Dewey - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 11:05 AM EST (#208018) #

Spring Training in 1988 was a bizarre experience. That was the spring that Jimy Williams and George Bell had their histrionic disagreement about George being DH. I can still see George strolling insouciantly down the sidelines towards the pitchers sitting by the left-field fence, as his turn to bat (as DH) was about to come up. He ignored poor Jimy.

Then there was the first coming (and last, as far as Toronto spring training) of Sil Campusano, a skinny kid who pretty much looked out of place, though he was a graceful fielder.   Moseby, whose center-field spot had seemingly been given away to Campusano, was usually in left at practices, and constantly (and loudly) ragged Campusano (as well as Glenallen Hill, whenever Hill hit a long fly ball and watched it admiringly). Hill was the more swashbuckling in demeanour, and was only 23. Moseby let him have it pretty hard. And Hill didn't make the big club until the next year, by which time Moseby was firmly back in center.

John Northey - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 11:33 AM EST (#208020) #
There really should've been some heads rolling after that horrid mess in '88. Why on earth Gillick/Williams felt Campusano was ready is beyond me. The Jays missed the playoffs in '87 not because of OF defense but because they had a horrid mess at 2B, injuries at the end to their SS and CA, no RH 3B who did well (Gruber was poor that year, Iorg was used a lot at 2B even though he was done) and a few headaches in the back of the rotation and Upshaw at 1B full time while McGriff/Fielder platooned at DH (with Fielder still in a platoon role in 88 before being sent off to Japan).

The Jimy Williams era was a very, very frustrating one. So much potential blown away by very poor choices.
Mike Green - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 11:50 AM EST (#208021) #
Do we have to review 1987-88? The 1987 club was almost surely the most talented of the organization's history, and a couple of simple managerial moves would probably have made the difference:

#1- there was no excuse for giving Garth Iorg 342 PAs.  Nelson Liriano had hit .285/.343/.422 in Knoxville at age 22 in 1986, and was a good defender.  He ought to have been the club's second baseman.
#2- Rance Mulliniks ought to have been more or less a full-time player, with Gruber getting late-inning defensive work and the occasional tough lefty. 

The club had 100 Pythagorean wins regardless, and would, I feel, have blown the race open earlier had the manager been someone else. 

Mylegacy - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 01:11 PM EST (#208025) #
I remember the hype about Sil Campusano - Baseball America was so excited about him I though they wanted to carry all his children. Seriously - they thought he was gonna be a superstar. I also remember Bell in 88 - that was the year he was "forced" to DH for a while to start the season - n'est pas? AND - he was SO PISSED he hit 3 homers in the opening game - I think it was against KC.

I LOVED Bell. An absolute PURE hitter - in some ways he was like Casey At The Bat in that once he got 2 strikes he turned into this amazing mass of concentration and burning desire to get a hit. In the field he wasn't great - BUT he NEVER made a bad play - BY NOT TRYING. However, he made a few by trying too hard. I still get a warm feeling all over just thinking about the guy.

What a group of outfielders in those ten or so years: Bell, Barfield, Moseby, White, Glenalen and others. It was a great time to be a Jays fan. AND - in pride of place - right here by my computer I've my Jessie Barfield signed ball with his 29 number in the "J" of Jessie. Led the league in homers one year and had an arm that you just wanted guys to try and take a base so he could show it off. Stopped more 1st to 3rds on singles than any outfielder I've ever seen.

lexomatic - Wednesday, November 04 2009 @ 01:49 PM EST (#208028) #
Little known, true story about Junior Felix - I was at my best friend's house, watching the game with him & his dad, when I said out loud "Home Run!" Seconds later, Felix hit his first career home run on his first pitch.
"I used to be psychic, but I drank my way out of it. "

As for Bell's fielding... I remember reading in some Bill James publication ( either 84, 91 or 92 Abstracts or the historical abstract) that when it came to an arbitration case he helped out on, he dug through the stats to show (on several occasions) that while Bell had led the league in errors, none of those errors had come back to hurt the team. Sort of the fielding equivalent of pitching just well enough to win (aka the Jack Morris HOF argument.)

From what I remember of 1987, Gruber was a utility player (while still getting most of his time at 3b) with decent power numbers.

Liriano was always a favourite of mine, someone I would've liked to have gotten a real shot. He was better than Manny Lee
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