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Great day on the farm as the affiliates went 5-1 thanks to strong pitching as only 9 runs crossed the plate in six games.  The collective bullpens were the true stars allowing just a single run in 20 combined innings.


Las Vegas 8    Oklahoma City 1

Manny Mayorson and Jason Lane each homered to help lead the 51s to victory on Sunday.  Mayorson had a pair of hits as did Mike McCoy, Aaron Mathews, and Brad Emaus who doubled twice.  Despite their offensive outburst, the 51s actually struck out 14 times on the day.

Shawn Hill made another strong start in his comeback attempt by going six innings and allowing an unearned run on three hits and a pair of walks.  He struck out two.  The bullpen provided three shutout innings thanks to five strikeouts in two frames from Rommie Lewis and another pair in the 9th for Zach Jackson.



New Hampshire 3   Altoona 2  (11 innings)


The Fisher Cats won this on an 11th inning double off the bat of Callix Crabbe scoring an Eric Thames single.  Thames was 3-for-5 with two strikeouts on the day.  Adam Loewen had just one hit but it was his 12th homer of the year.  David Cooper was 2-for-4 with an RBI.

Randy Boone made a strong start for New Hampshire going 7.1 innings and allowing two runs (one earned) on five hits and a walk against three strikeouts.  Continuing the strong bullpen theme, Tryston Magnuson and Alan Farina closed things out with 3.2 scoreless frames combined.



Dunedin 1    Brevard County 0  (Game 1)

The game's lone run came in the second on a Yan Gomes double.  The D-Jays managed just four hits total.  Mark Sobolewski was 1-for-2 with a single and a walk.

Chuck Huggins was excellent on the mound going six shutout innings allowing six hits and three walks against four strikeouts.  Matthew Daly pitched a scoreless ninth with two strikeouts for his 26th save.



Dunedin 1    Brevard County 3  (Game 2)

Not much to write home about in this one.  Ryan Goins had a double, Anthony Gose walked and scored, and Concepcion Rodriguez had the only RBI.

Bobby Bell started and lasted 2.1 allowing two runs on four hits and three walks.  He struck out one.  The bullpen allowed a run in 3.2 frames.



Fort Wayne 3    Lansing 5

A nice walkoff win for the Lugnuts as Sean Ochinko slammed a two-out, two-run homer for the victory.  The Lugnuts had ten hits on the day as five players had two apiece.  Ochinko added a double and 3 RBI to go with his homer while Bradley Glenn picked up two doubles and a pair of RBI, Kevin Ahrens had a single and a double, and Justin Jackson and Michael Crouse had a pair of singles each.

Matt Fields started for Lansing and lasted just four and a third allowing three runs (two earned) on three hits, three walks and three strikeouts.  The bullpen filled in admirably as Scott Gracey and Steve Turnbull went the final 4.2 allowing just two hits and a hit batsman.  Turnbull picked up the victory, his third of the year.



Auburn 2    Connecticut 0


Four pitchers combined to twirl a three-hitter for the Doubledays.  Casey Lawrence started and was brilliant in his five innings allowing three hits and striking out seven to move to 6-1 with an ERA of 1.74.  From there the bullpen took over and delivered four perfect innings to preserve the victory.

The Doubledays managed just six hits but three of them were doubles off the bats of Carlos Perez, Matthew Nuzzo, and Markus Brisker who drove in the only two runs.



The DSL Blue Jays had Sunday off.



Speaking of days off, the GCL Blue Jays enjoyed one of their own.



Three Stars:

3rd Star:  Randy Boone
- 7.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
2nd Star:  Chuck Huggins- 6 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 4 K
1st Star:  Casey Lawrence- 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 7 K

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dan gordon - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 02:53 AM EDT (#220860) #
Carlson has been called up from Vegas to replace Purcey who has been DL'd with a sprained foot/ankle suffered covering 1B the other night.  I thought that play looked kind of painful for Purcey.
TamRa - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 03:01 AM EDT (#220861) #
What do we think about the potential success of Shawn Hill?

Ultimately, he's a free agent at the end of the year, right? There's not really a place for him to come back here and compete for a major league spot.

Good Canadian boy or not, unless he let's sentiment trump good sense he's bound to try to land a major league job with a needy team next year, right?



Moe - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:10 AM EDT (#220862) #
I could see him playing the role that Tallet had this year. Long man/spot starter. Assuming he is willing to sign for the minimum or not much more than that.


Forkball - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 09:28 AM EDT (#220867) #
Any updates on the signing deadline?  Would the Jays be better off not signing McGwire knowing that next year's draft is particularly strong?
Mike Green - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 09:48 AM EDT (#220874) #
It's McGuire, and yes is the answer to your question, in my view. 
Gerry - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 09:53 AM EDT (#220875) #

I was in Lansing the last two days, spent some time watching yesterdays game with lugnut fan.  I will have interviews with Sal Fasano, Jake Marisnick, Michael Crouse and Drew Hutchison on the site in the next little while as well as leftover interviews from my Auburn trip.  Here are a couple of quick observations:

The best hitter over the last two days?  Kevin Ahrens.  He is hitting the ball hard and line drives are jumping off his bat.  He says it is just a hot streak but it might be more. 

Marisnick and Crouse are worth getting excited over.  They are also very similar.  Both are tall, about 6'4", Marisnick is listed at 200 lbs, Crouse at 205, but Crouse looks about 15 pounds heavier.  Both are fast and both can hit and should develop power as they get older.  I mentioned over the weekend thast Crouse's dad played in the NFL and CFL and Crouse looks like a football player.

Marisnick, by the way, is pronounced Mariznik.

And on the subject of pronunciations Gustavo Pierre is not pronounced in the french way.  Although he is a latino he has a Canadian-type pronunciation, its Pierre-eh.  He should fit in well in Toronto.

 

Spifficus - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 10:02 AM EDT (#220876) #
For me, no, given how the non-signing comp picks have gone in the past. The team ends up losing any leverage and have make a major overdraft just to ensure they'll sign. So, then the question to ask is "How does Deck compare with the talent in, say, the #50 range?" Is the draft that deep?
Mike Green - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 10:23 AM EDT (#220877) #
That's old thinking, Spifficus.  New thinking is that you gather a whole boatload of early round picks, and you are willing to draft Thon/Thames types later on and spend to sign them.  It is no great tragedy if you cannot sign any particular pick. 

I hated the 2010 draft at the time because I was stuck on the 1st round drafting strategy in isolation.  After the 1st round, there was a balance of pitching and hitting and some very fine prospects.  This made the draft much better than I originally thought.

Spifficus - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 10:43 AM EDT (#220880) #
Right, but in this case, we are talking about the merits of one pick in isolation and not the draft as a whole. It's whether it's better to sign Deck vs take the comp pick. I'm working on the assumption he'd get a deal a bit above slot. Honestly, he doesn't have the leverage to ask for any more; what's he going to do, go into next year's draft? Of course, the overdraft next year would cost about the same. So, same money(give or take), same draft position, and the fate of one pick hangs on one question... Who's better, Deck, or next year's overdraft?
Marc Hulet - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 10:54 AM EDT (#220881) #

McGuire was rated higher entering the draft than where the Jays got him... so based on that his value is higher than the draft slot so the organization is better off signing him. He doesn't have a huge ceiling - No. 3... maybe No. 2... but the Jays also took and signed some higher ceiling players.

By not signing McGuire this year, the Jays would have to take a safer pick with the compensation pick for 2011 like they did this year with Nicolino and Sweeney due to the club's lack of leverage.

Anders - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 11:02 AM EDT (#220882) #
By most accounts McGuire is going to sign, and I would say that that is a good thing, talent in next years draft notwithstanding. Current picks are more valuable than future picks, and while the team has a lot of leverage over McGuire now, they will have no leverage whatsoever over their pick next year.
ramone - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 11:03 AM EDT (#220883) #

From BA this morning:

"In the fourth round, Sam Dyson (Blue Jays), Matthew Grimes (White Sox), Austin Wood (Rays), Cole Green (Tigers) and Andrew Toles (Marlins) were not close to deals as of Sunday evening. Additionally, because he's the equivalent of a college senior and played in an independent league this spring, fourth-rounder James Paxton (Mariners) isn't subject to the deadline."

Marc Hulet - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 11:22 AM EDT (#220885) #
I'm OK with Dyson not signing considering his significant injury history and the fact that he's probably a reliever long term... He's an older college player that really should be showing more interest in going pro. He can go back to school and lose leverage in 2011 as a 23 year old.
mendocino - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 01:37 PM EDT (#220891) #
17th rounder Myles Jaye signs
China fan - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 02:32 PM EDT (#220895) #
  WillRain and Moe, thanks for the comments on Shawn Hill.  His impressive comeback has gone virtually unnoticed on this site -- or unremarked upon, anyway -- and it deserves greater discussion.  His latest strong start of six innings without an earned run in the PCL is definitely worth noticing.  It suggests that his previous start (when he went just one inning) was an aberration, not a sign of injury recurrences.  Given his lengthy major-league experience, I'd be tempted to put him ahead of Brad Mills on the depth chart, and I'd be tempted to let him compete fairly for the 5th starter's role in spring training next year.  As Moe suggested, he might also be a good candidate for the long relief (and spot starter) role in the bullpen.   With the normal spate of injuries and slumps and everything else that can befall the Jays, a pitcher like Hill could prove very useful.

I have to disagree with WillRain's suggestion that the Jays don't need Hill and he'll inevitably go to another team.  First, the Jays might need him, or at the very least he could be a useful trading chip.  Second, I can't imagine that the Jays signed him (and gave him a full year of rehab time) merely to let him walk away.  The Jays have carefully shepherded him through their entire minor-league system this year, nurturing his recovery and coaching him and watching him carefully and paying him.  Why would they do all this if they don't have any long-term interest in the guy? 

John Northey - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#220897) #
Shawn Hill has been interesting to keep an eye on. Just 3 years 153 days ML experience so he would be into arbitration if the Jays keep him on the roster for 2011. A September call-up would push him over 4 years thus giving the Jays just 2 years of arbitration before he would be a free agent, while leaving him down gives them 3.

He has yet to make $1 mil in a season so his arbitration cost should be very low. He might be a very worthwhile addition to the staff. Tough choice for the Jays though - 40 man roster is a lock for the winter, but do you call him up for September and burn a full healthy season in 2013? The innings in September would help determine if he will be useful in 2011 but spring could do so almost as well. But if he is effective in September he might have trade value and would spell off the kids who are going to hit inning limits soon.

So 2011 could see Marcum, Romero, Morrow as locks with Cecil a near lock. Rzep battling with Litsch and Hill and Mills and whoever else is ready (such as Stewart & Drabek) for that last slot. Of course, if Hill comes up and does well then you might feel safe trading someone (Marcum perhaps) as you have the depth to (hopefully) survive.

2011's rotation should be a major war for spots. Lets hope for the best out of it!
Moe - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 03:45 PM EDT (#220901) #
"So 2011 could see Marcum, Romero, Morrow as locks with Cecil a near lock. Rzep battling with Litsch and Hill and Mills and whoever else is ready (such as Stewart & Drabek) for that last slot. Of course, if Hill comes up and does well then you might feel safe trading someone (Marcum perhaps) as you have the depth to (hopefully) survive."

I would think that if the Jays feel that Stewart and Drabek will make the team, they should trade Marcum. He has two years left until being a free agent. He has rebounded nicely from his injury so he should get a decent return. Next year Romero, Morrow and Cecil will be veteran enough that the agrument you need Marcum in that role diminishes. I don't see the Jays locking him up long term, so trading this offseason now seems like a reasonable option. However, more likely they hold on to him and see how Stewart and Drabek start next season in AAA. If they push for a call-up, you trade Marcum mid-season. As seen with Cliff Lee, mid-season the Jays might even get more.

There are some names to consider for Tallet's role: Richmond, Reyes, Hill

Kelekin - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:12 PM EDT (#220905) #
I don't understand why Dyson thinks going back to college would be a better move.  Has he seen how much 23 year olds make when drafted? He surely won't be able to build on his stock.
Gerry - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:20 PM EDT (#220906) #

I was looking at the Jays system over the weekend and there isn't much immediate starting pitcher help behind Drabek and Stewart.  The next best candidate is Henderson Alvarez who is probably 3 years away (2013).  With the guys in AAA and AA the Jays have their pitchers for 2011 and 2012.  By 2013 pitchers like Alvarez, Wojciechowski, Dyson and maybe Drew Hutchison could be arriving. 

So I don't expect the Jays to do much trading of starting pitchers this off-season, you can never have enough pitchers and with the uncertainty over Mills and Litsch we need all the guys we have.

ayjackson - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:26 PM EDT (#220907) #

I guess you could consider Drabek and Stewart tradeable though.  If Romero-Marcum-Cecil-Morrow is the core of your rotation for the next five years, and Mills-Rzep-Litsch-FA fill out the fifth and depth spots, then the likes of McGuire, Wojo, Alvarez, Hutchison and Dyson arrive in time to replace possible losses to free agency.

 

Moe - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:40 PM EDT (#220909) #
If you don't trade Marcum, what do you do? I don't see the Jays signing him to the 4/10 deal that would be "normal" at this point. He is still only one year away from TJ, some have suggested he is somewhat of an injury risk and is this really the best way of spending money. Morrow is getting up there in service time, too.

2012 rotation option w/out Marcum
Romero
Morrow
Cecil
---
Litch
Mills
Rzep
---
Drabek
Stewart
---
Hill
Richmond
Reyes
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Chad Jenkins
Deck McGuire (if he signs)

That's a long list. I'm not saying the Jays need to trade Marcum but they should entertain offers. Plus, a potential return might be added to the list as well.


Gerry - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 04:54 PM EDT (#220910) #

Count on at least one or two of those guys being injured.  And as much as I like Brad Mills as a person, I think he needs to be traded to the NL.  He would do great in San Diego for example.

Litsch is having (has had?) that hip labrum surgery.  The hitters who have had that injury and in some cases the operation, have struggled thereafter.  I would need to know a lot more about the recovery prognosis before I traded a front line starter.

Rich - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 05:03 PM EDT (#220913) #
I would think that if the Jays feel that Stewart and Drabek will make the team, they should trade Marcum.

Interesting thought, but can't agree with you.  Making the team is one thing, staying healthy and pitching decently as rookies in the AL East is another thing completely.  Nothing wrong with putting either Stewart or Drabek on the Earl Weaver plan if both appear ready and the rotation is full to start the year.  Injuries will happen at some point in any case.
TamRa - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 06:43 PM EDT (#220917) #
Shawn Hill has been interesting to keep an eye on. Just 3 years 153 days ML experience so he would be into arbitration if the Jays keep him on the roster for 2011. A September call-up would push him over 4 years thus giving the Jays just 2 years of arbitration before he would be a free agent, while leaving him down gives them 3.

Wait, what?

I'm sorry - my previous remarks were in the context of his becoming a free agent and his logical decision that he could make the rotation of, for instance, the Brewers more easily than the jays.If all we need to do is put him on the 40 then OF COURSE they will do that.

TamRa - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 06:51 PM EDT (#220918) #
I don't think there's a realistic possibility that Stewart is with the jays next year, short of a monsterous minor league stint or massive major league injuries.

Drabek, IMO, is a virtual lock to NOT break camp with the jays simply because of the number of bodies in front of him, but i could see him leapfrogging into the rotation when someone went down in, say, June.

I break the depth chart down like this:

Romero, Morrow, Marcum, Cecil
---------
Zep, Hill, Mills, Litsch, Richmond (the latter two depending on health)
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Drabek (if he starts 2010 well, he'll be the first minor league option ahead of whichever of the previous group doesn't make the cut
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Reyes, Ray, other filler maybe not yet in system
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Stewart (limited innings make it most likely he stays at AAA all year)
---------
Jenkins (if you get to the 14th guy, you will go for the one who's most mature)

No reason to mention anyone else in the context of 2011.

While i agree with Gerry that there is a bit of a development gap between Drabek and Stewart and the other top shelf prospects, when you have Marcum plus eight other credible options age 26 or less, you definately have (and need) time before you figure out what to do with Jenkins, McGuire, Alvarez, Sanchez et al.

Kelekin - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 07:16 PM EDT (#220920) #
I remember when I read some opinions on Kellen Sweeney, they said that his biggest asset was his plate vision and that if he ever did make it to the majors, it'd likely because he'd have the potential for 100 walks a season.

Well, he has 9 walks in 23 PAs in Rookie Ball.  Not a bad start with the eye. 

Kelekin - Monday, August 16 2010 @ 07:23 PM EDT (#220921) #
Oh, and if they weren't caught earlier:

Kenny Wilson promoted to Dunedin.
Brad McElroy demoted to Lansing (ouch).
Henderson Alvarez placed on the DL.

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