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With Lansing losing last night there is just one Blue Jay minor league team still in action. Your Fisher Cats take a 2-0 series lead into Trenton tonight for game three. Jordan Romano takes the mound for the Cats.

Look at Romano's ERA over the last four months. Starting in May, it goes 1.54; 7.52; 1.04; 7.27. That is some Jekyll and Hyde pitching. Romano gave up eight earned runs in his last start. WhicH Romano will show up tonight?

The offense has been carried by Bo Bichette and Harold Ramirez. Both are batting .625 in the two playoff games. If they stay hot, the Cats will be hard to beat.

Game time is 7pm.

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hypobole - Friday, September 07 2018 @ 06:20 PM EDT (#365349) #
Akron is also up 2-0 in their semi-final. Looking very much like FisherCat pitchers will get to face Josh Donaldson in the finals.
Gerry - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 12:31 AM EDT (#365361) #
NH up 3-1 in the middle of the sixth. Biggio with the big hit.
Gerry - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 12:45 AM EDT (#365362) #
3-1 after six, Romano now out of the game.
krose - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 01:12 AM EDT (#365363) #
5-1 NH middle of the 8th. Six more outs.
krose - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 02:02 AM EDT (#365365) #
5-1 final. FisherCats move on.
dan gordon - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 02:21 AM EDT (#365366) #
Travis Bergen finished the game off again with another zero. He's had a terrific season. Corey Copping had a couple of good innings - he may actually be something. In has last 7 2/3 innings, he's allowed only 3 hits, 3 walks, and no runs, with 15 strikeouts.
hypobole - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 07:44 AM EDT (#365370) #
Eastern League schedule shows the finals not starting until Tuesday next week. Don't know the opponent. Akron lost to Altoona, still need another win to advance. Donaldson played 3rd and was 0-4, 2 K's before being lifted.
Mike Green - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 10:10 AM EDT (#365380) #
Here's a fine profile on Bergen from C's Plus.  He had elbow problems after turning pro and went on to TJ in August, 2016.  Getting back to effective pitching in 2018 is typical good progress after the surgery. He has a typical 3 pitch mix- 4 seamer, curve, change, and has been equally effective against RHBs and LHBs in the minor leagues.  He looks to me to be a keeper.

Copping is still a bit of a work in progress.  He's got a big fastball and a curve, but control is the issue.  I think that he'll make the 40 man. 
dan gordon - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 04:01 PM EDT (#365407) #
Thanks, Mike, that's a good article about Bergen. Possible late inning guy for the Jays by the 2nd half of next year. Copping has averaged about 1 walk every 2 innings, so, as you say, that's where he needs to improve. You mention Copping being added to the 40 man, and I think you might be right. Bergen is another guy who needs to be added. It would be helpful to have a list of all the minor leaguers who are at risk of being picked in the rule 5 if they aren't added. I'm starting to agree with some comments a couple of weeks back that the Jays might be at risk of losing a few prospects. Another reason for not bringing Vladdy up yet - leaves another 40 man spot available.
PeterG - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 04:39 PM EDT (#365409) #
There will be some tough 40 man decisions and likely much disagreement. I think the only no brainer is Patrick Murphy. There are several worthy candidates for a few other spots. What we don't know either is who might be DFA to make room....several candidates there as well and we surely won't all agree on the actual choices. As for Copping, he may be worthy but it's going to be tough to fit him. Looking for a 3 for 1 trade might be worth considering.
Richard S.S. - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 05:59 PM EDT (#365417) #
Outfielders Grichuk, Hernandez, McKinney and Pillar look to be on the MLB Roster. Alford, Pompey, Smith Jr. and Davis are basically MLB-ready/AAA-ready. Are any of the Outfielders eligible for the 40-Man/Rule 5 better than these eight, or can they be? Then you make the addition/subtraction. Go

Position by Position for Players eligible for the 40-Man/Rule 5. Are any of the Players eligible for the 40-Man/Rule 5 better than the incumbents, or can they be? Then you make the additions/subtractions. The Jays have 42 players (two on 60-Day D.L.). Estrada is a Free Agent, while Solarte might be. Clippard is also a free Agent, but that clears up little, maybe one space.

Who get traded? Who gets bought out? Who gets non-tendered? Considering the past Trades and probable Free Agents, more than half of next years team will be new/young or both. Each and every move made from this point on must be the right, 100% correct thing to do. Getting to the Postseason is easier, but the margin for error is much smaller.
John Northey - Saturday, September 08 2018 @ 11:24 PM EDT (#365429) #
I wouldn't be surprised if the Jays put 3 or 4 serious risks out there for the rule 5 this year.  Lose 1 or 2 and get a tiny bit of cash, while clearing up some of the battles.  Smith Jr I see as a faint hope kid at this point, even though he has looked good when given a shot.  Its clear he isn't in the Jays plans.  Pompey I expect to be part of a trade or even just sold to another team.  Outfielders are the most fungable imo as we have Gurriel and Vlad who both could move to LF easily if needed plus we have Hernandez/McKinney in LF already.  We have Pillar and Grichuk who can play CF, and Grichuk/Hernandez/McKinney who can play RF.  Smith, Pompey, and others are secondary expecially if options are used up (Pompey) or they can't really cover CF (Smith).  Plus we have Jonathan Smith now, plus Harold Ramirez in AA who could be ready soon.

Those Francisco Liriano salary dump trades really worked well - Harold Ramirez and Reese McGuire, and Teoscar Hernandez.  All were given to the Jays in exchange for eating cash.  All could be key parts of the 2019-2023 teams.  AA's early skill was manipulating free agency rules to get bonus draft picks, Atkins seems to have been using cash to get prospects.  I keep hoping he'll do that again.
hypobole - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 06:18 PM EDT (#365448) #
New Hampshire will face Akron in the Finals starting Tuesday. Don't think Josh will be playing for Akron, as Tuesday is when he's supposed to be activated from the DL.
Waveburner - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 06:39 PM EDT (#365449) #
For the rule 5 I have 4 players who need to be added for sure:

Patrick Murphy, Hector Perez, Yennsy Diaz and Travis Bergen.

The following is a list of all players remotely considered prospects eligible for rule 5 (or can elect minor league FA):

Matt Dermody
Jacob Waguespack
Juliandry Higuera
Tim Lopes
Jason Leblebijian
Jordan Romano
Francisco Rios
Jon Harris
Corey Copping
Josh DeGraaf
Danny Young
Dusty Isaacs
Andrew Case
Jackson McClelland
Taylor Saucedo
Forrest Wall
Harold Ramirez
Max Pentecost
Andrew Guillotte
Eduard Pinto
Angel Perdomo
Kelyn Jose
Rodrigo Orozco
Ivan Castillo
Alberto Mineo
Emerson Jimenez
Kevin Vicuna

I don't see much there to worry about. Romano seems about the only player that might be able to stick for a full season in a bullpen. Plus the current 40 man has numerous players I wouldn't think twice about dropping. Jays should be fine IMO.
PeterG - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 07:31 PM EDT (#365451) #
I would agree with the 4 you have as definites except that I don't believe Hector Perez is eligible for rule 5. Yes on the other 3. It's tough after that. They will likely protect whomever they feel is in most danger of being lost. It also depends on how many are dropped from current 40 man. Certainly some relievers and OF's will lose their spots. Possibly Solarte will not be kept but he may still have 40 man spot until late November. I don't see room to protect Pentecost but his strong finish might persuade a team to draft him though I would think the chance of him being returned would be a likely one.
bpoz - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#365453) #
Thanks Waveburner for the list.
Waveburner - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 08:36 PM EDT (#365454) #
Well Hector Perez was signed by the Astros in July 2014, which as far as I know means he is under the same rule 5 timeline as high schoolers drafted in 2014. He did not actually pitch in 2014, but I was under the impression that does not matter, it's all about signing date. Perhaps someone can correct me.

I mean I suppose there is a very small chance someone like Wall/Ramirez/Pentecost gets drafted, but the odds of them sticking seem rather remote.
PeterG - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 08:46 PM EDT (#365455) #
from Wikpedia:

Players are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 draft who are not on their major league organization's 40-man roster and:

were 18 or younger on the June 5 preceding their signing and this is the fifth Rule 5 draft upcoming; or
were 19 or older on the June 5 preceding their signing and this is the fourth Rule 5 draft upcoming.

So on June 5, 2015 Perez was under 18 as his birthday is June 6 and he has only played 4 years. So he seems ineligible.....or am I missing something?
Waveburner - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 08:59 PM EDT (#365456) #
But Perez was signed July 2014, so the relevant date is June 5th 2014. Since that date this will the 5th Rule 5 draft; 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 & now 2018. Pretty sure he is eligible by that definition. But again I am no expert :)
PeterG - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 09:20 PM EDT (#365458) #
You may be right. If so, he certainly will be protected. Maybe that's why Astros were willing to give him up.What I was looking at was that he has only played 4 years. Someone had reported that he was ineligible at the time of the trade but he must have been fooled also. By the letter of the definition, your interpretation seems correct. Getting back to your original list, there might not be room to protect anyone else as Tulo and Merryweather have to be added unless there is any agreement for the trade to be announced after Rule 5, thus the January date as the last date for completion. That would be nice but likely not the case and we won't know until an announcement is made. If more can be protected, they will likely be pitchers.....Copping and Romano maybe......outside shot for Pentecost.
dan gordon - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 10:52 PM EDT (#365464) #
Thanks for the list. I'd really like to protect Harold Ramirez after the year he's had in AA at 23. I think he could stick with a non-contending team that drafts him. Copping probably wouldn't stick due to control issues, Pentecost probably wouldn't hit enough, Romano is probably not quite ready, but maybe in a bullpen role he'd stick. There are about 6-7 droppable guys currently on the roster, plus Estrada and Clippard, who are free agents. I imagine one of the reasons for so many callups this September is to look at some of the marginal guys like Urena, Tellez, Davis, Smith, Guerrieri, Petricka who could be dropped. Pompey is another one who could go. Hard to drop Rowdy now after the great start.
John Northey - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 11:31 PM EDT (#365466) #
Can't imagine the Jays will protect Pentecost - he is a CA/DH and is about 5th in the depth chart at CA now (Martin/Maile/Pearson/McGuire) after hitting 253/283/401 in AA. Although is August of 375/381/650 has to be a big plus for him going forward.  A 40% CS rate behind the plate is also a big plus (the other 2 catchers in AA were at 30% and 29%). 2019 will decide Pentecosts career - does he build on that strong August or does he flop and become a career minor leaguer.  I could imagine someone taking a shot at him in the Rule 5 draft if they are high on his defense.  Still the other 4 are starting ahead of him in the majors and only Martin is a lock to leave post 2019.

That Osuna trade has gone about as good as the Jays could've hoped for... Osuna has a 2-2 record, 2 holds, 6 saves, no blown saves in 16 games (16 IP).  Giles is 0-1 with 0 holds and 0 blown saves and 7 saves in 14 games (13 IP).  Funny Giles would have more saves in fewer games.  Paulino has the two games so far 1 2/3 scoreless, Perez 6 games (5 starts) in AA with an 3.86 ERA for the Jays is a good beginning.

The Jays are moving into a new stage that we haven't really seen in a long time - "too many" good prospects.  In quotes because there is no such thing, it just becomes harder to pick the right guy to keep and to give playing time to.  AA got the ball rolling with his extra draft picks who are now running out of pre-rule 5 time.  Atikins made the 'problem' bigger by chasing down near ready guys.  Now a few need to be traded if not this winter, then next to help fill gaps (pitching).
greenfrog - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 11:46 PM EDT (#365467) #
Osuna has been worth 0.5 WAR since the trade. Giles has been worth -0.3 WAR.
mendocino - Sunday, September 09 2018 @ 11:46 PM EDT (#365468) #
Is Reese McGuire's play making Luke Maile expendable?
Shoeless Joe - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 05:49 AM EDT (#365471) #
I like Reese McGuire and I think he is likely to remain in the org moving forward. I think Luke Maile still has one option remaining so the Jays however could conceivably move any one of Martin, Maile or McGuire and have one of Maile/McGuire remain in AAA.Hopefully they can find a taker for Martin and get some value out of him.
ISLAND BOY - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 06:42 AM EDT (#365472) #
I don't know if there's many takers for a catcher on the downside of his career and due to be paid 20 million.I would think he will be kept around to mentor the other catchers and play some games behind the plate and at third base. There's going to be a lot of young players on the team next year who will need veteran guidance, and Martin and Morales, much as he's maligned, are both good at that.
scottt - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 07:58 AM EDT (#365473) #
McGuire could spent most of the year at AAA.  Some young pitchers will be up and down and it doesn't hurt to "waste" a year of McGuire as the team isn't going to be competitive. Catchers can get hurt, just look at Boston and NYY. It's great to have a good one ready to call up. It would also be great to get something back for Maile.

And I would trade with the Pirates again before Tampa does.
It looks like it's the owner who calls the shots there.

bpoz - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 08:25 AM EDT (#365474) #
The #1 catcher for the future is Jansen. He is getting the ML playing time of a #1. That leaves Maile or McGuire as the backup.

In AAA this year the org gave many ABs at DH to Jansen and McGuire. Only 298 ABs in AAA to Jansen but he will get close to 400 when his ML ABs are added. Very smart of the org.

McGuire and Pentecost can do the same in AAA next year. If we end up with a surplus then we can trade.

Shoeless Joe - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 08:25 AM EDT (#365475) #
I like Martin, but one of Maile and McGuire likely deserve to be the back-up at the major league level.

Does Martin at 20 million have value? No, but does Martin at 8-10 million have value with the jays eating much of the salary have value? Playoff teams like vetran play callers behind the dish and Martin has bene a better hitter than his numbers indicate.
ISLAND BOY - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 11:35 AM EDT (#365485) #
I was kind of thinking of Martin as a third catcher/utility man, Jansen being the number 1 catcher and Maile backing him up. With Vlad Jr. coming up at some point in the spring and likely playing regularly, plus the glut of infielders if Tulo comes back successfully, then I don't know if that makes sense. I'm not sure that the Jays would want to eat that much salary on Martin if they were to trade him.
Shoeless Joe - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 12:45 PM EDT (#365493) #
I don't mind Martin as the back-up catcher / utility guy and he is likely to fill that role next year, but I think it would be better to pay his salary and get some prospects and look towards 2021.
hypobole - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 01:24 PM EDT (#365496) #
Didn't realise J. B. Woodman, the guy we took 9 picks before Bo and traded for Diaz, was released by the Cards a month ago.
whiterasta80 - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 03:27 PM EDT (#365500) #
There were always too many holes in that swing.
Nigel - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 04:59 PM EDT (#365503) #
whiterasta80 - you are probably right about the holes in the swing but I really think Woodman had the worst pitch recognition skills I have ever seen in Vancouver (and that's saying something). A little bit like a comment I made recently about the differences in cognitive ability to run good routes to catch fly balls, I think there are vast differences in cognitive ability to recognize pitches. I'm not sure that any amount of practice or efforts to improve the mechanics of your swing can fix this problem.
jerjapan - Monday, September 10 2018 @ 05:19 PM EDT (#365504) #
Bluebird Banter has some great roster resources for people wondering about options and the rule v.  Maille does have an option, and we definitely have a 40 man roster crunch.  I was also surprised so much of the talent acquired at the deadline required protecting, but presumably that's why they were available.  Like Glevin said upthread, the hard part comes now with managing the assets. 

Rule V eligible players:
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