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Yesterday every team lost. On Sunday Vancouver and Dunedin reversed course and won. Buffalo were one hit. For Vancouver Rafael Lantigua hit two home runs.

I have not tried to compile an updated Blue Jays top 30 list and I do not keep a running list. But it struck me recently that by some measures this has not been a great year for the Blue Jays minor league system. By one measure it has been good, Alek Manoah, Alejandro Kirk, Reese McGuire and Santiago Espinal have contributed at the major league level. Outside of those players, when we look at the future, how many minor leaguers from last years top 30 have made significant strides forward? Obviously Gabriel Moreno is one. Orelvis is another. Kevin Smith, Samad Taylor, maybe Otto Lopez. But several have not had good years. Nate Pearson probably tops this list. But who pushes into the top ten? Miguel Hiraldo, Anthony Kay, CY Van Eyk, Adam Kloffenstein, Estevan Machado, Eric Pardinho, Rikelbin De Castro, Dasan Brown, Joey Murray, Manuel Beltre, Tanner Morris or Will Robertson? All of them were in a top 30 and none have really a great season. Time is still on most of their sides but when you combine this lack of advancement with the prospects lost in trades, I think the system takes a hit in the post season farm system rankings.

So who is in your top 10, if we exclude this years draft picks? Assume Pearson loses his eligibility. Moreno, Smith, Lopez, Orelvis, Groshans, Samad Taylor, possibly Leo Jimenez. and then the list gets thin.



Syracuse 10 Buffalo 2

New Hampshire at Reading - cancelled

Spokane 4 Vancouver 8

Dunedin 4 Tampa 2


This is what I noted from yesterday's games.


Buffalo were one hit. The only hit was an infield single by Kevin Smith.

Bowden Francis allowed five hits, five walks and four runs in 5.1 innings.


Rafael Lantigua homered twice. He hit a solo home run in the third to get the C's on the board and followed that with a three run shot in the fifth to give the C's a 4-2 lead, a lead they would not relinquish. Trevor Schwecke, who just came off the IL, went 3-3 with a walk. Davis Schneider doubled in two runs. Andres Guerra and Will Robertson had two hits each.

Alejandro Melean just missed getting through five innings for the win. He fell an out short. Hagen Danner pitched a shutout ninth.


The Jays pitchers held Tampa to four hits. Starter Naswell Paulino only went 4.1 innings and was charged with both runs, one of them unearned. He had six K's. This years 18th round pick, Jimmy Burnette, has a 1.69 ERA for Dunedin in six games. He has 15 K's in 10.2 innings. 13th round pick, Matt Svanson, has a 2.45 ERA. He has 21 K's in 14.2 innings.

PK Morris and Addison Barger had two hits each. Barger hit his 18th home run.




Three Stars

Third Star - Naswell Paulino

Second Star - Trevor Schwecke

First Star - Rafael Lantigua


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scottt - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 06:43 AM EDT (#406881) #
Most lists have Gunnar Hoglund in the top 10 even though he won't be pitching soon.
I find Irv Carter intriguing but certainly not top 10 before he shows anything professionally.

bpoz - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 11:11 AM EDT (#406892) #
I got 7 players only.

1) G Moreno: All great numbers. 8 Hr in 126 ABs. If you extrapolate to the 395 ABs of O Martinez you get 25 Hr. His bat needs to get into the lineup by playing C and other positions. Don't know if this happens.

2) O Martinez: 19 Hr in 283 ABs Dunedin. 9 Hr in 112 ABs Vancouver. His Hr rate is 6.7% in Dunedin and 8% in Vancouver. I don't know why. He is not getting tired but he is getting older so maybe growing/gaining strength. Or it is the park effect. How will he handle AA.

3) J Groshans: Quite impressed that he is has stayed a lot healthier this year. He still has to produce more power but the other numbers are good.

4/5) Smith/Lopez: Smith has a chance to be a regular because of his power. Also has speed and defense.

Lopez should hit for a higher AVG. Plays multiple positions but is unlikely to be a regular due to not enough power.

6/7) Adrian Hernandez & Sem Robberse.

A Hernandez 60.2 IP over 3 levels and dominated with a CH.

S Robberse was inconsistent like many other A+ and A- SPs. Some good and some bad starts. In May 3 of 4 starts were bad. After that only about 20% bad in Dunedin. In Vancouver he struggled but his last game was very good. He has the potential to be a good SP. He is very young and should get stronger.




Glevin - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 12:23 PM EDT (#406898) #
My top-7 would be
1-Moreno
2-Orelvis
3-Groshans
4-Jimenez
5-Hoglund
6-Taylor
7-Otto Lopez

And then there are a bunch of guys like Beltre and Machado who we don't know how they are progressing. Also, a few pitchers who just are walking way too many guys so giving up lots of runs but maybe that's something they can figure out. Because of fewer teams, it's a lot harder to see the depth of the system.
Gerry - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 01:56 PM EDT (#406903) #
New Hampshire who haven't played in over a week due to a COVID outbreak have cancelled Tuesdays game but say they will be back on Wednesday.

Gabriel Moreno, who was taken out of a FCL game last week after a home plate collision, is not in the FCL lineup today.
greenfrog - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#406906) #
Can anyone provide an update about Moreno’s injury? It was the same with his thumb injury — it took days to find out why he wasn’t playing. This informational vacuum seems odd for a top prospect.
uglyone - Monday, September 13 2021 @ 06:43 PM EDT (#406939) #


These are all the BA lists I can find from this year.

January

#15 Pearson
#19 Martin
#34 Groshans
#69 SWR
#70 Kirk
#96 Orelvis
N/R Manoah, Moreno

May Update

#15 Martin
#16 Pearson
#27 Groshans
#60 SWR
#61 Kirk
#83 Orelvis
#93 Manoah
HM Moreno

June Update

#12 Martin
#30 Moreno
#31 Manoah
#32 Pearson
#49 Groshans
#57 Kirk
#74 Orelvis
N/R SWR


July Update

#12 Moreno
#13 Manoah
#21 Martin
#55 Pearson
#58 Orelvis
#83 Groshans
#85 Kirk
N/R SWR


September Update

Graduated: Manoah, Kirk
#8 Moreno
(#36 Martin - traded)
#57 Pearson
#62 Orelvis
#74 Groshans
N/R SWR



Makes you wonder a bit about the value of these lists tbh.
bpoz - Tuesday, September 14 2021 @ 08:16 AM EDT (#406998) #
Thanks for the list UO.

Manoah is fascinating. He managed to move up fast enough to get to #13 before losing prospect status.

Moreno was also moving fast until getting injured.
Mike Green - Tuesday, September 14 2021 @ 10:24 AM EDT (#407002) #
BA has its biases, as is obvious from the Kirk ratings.  By the way, Kirk has caught 300 innings this year and the pitchers have a 2.96 ERA when he has.  When throwing to each of the other catchers, the pitchers have an ERA over 4.  It might be luck to some degree, but it's pretty hard to reconcile that record with the view that he's a poor defensive catcher. 
bpoz - Tuesday, September 14 2021 @ 11:04 AM EDT (#407003) #
I remember the article about Kirk impressing one of our veteran scouts. He got back to Tinnish and suggested/convinced him to sign Kirk. Kirk's physique never did look good in a uniform. In 2018 he started in Blufield as the DH but injuries to the other catchers forced him to catch. His hitting was fantastic as revealed by the stats throughout his minor league career.

He is still trying to convince many people that he can catch. But not our wise UO, he knows. I will take the cheap way out and refer to his Sept hitting. .303 Avg, 6bb 4K & 4Hr. He is continuing his minor league trend of hitting.
Gerry - Tuesday, September 14 2021 @ 05:42 PM EDT (#407023) #
New Hampshire return to play tomorrow and they need reinforcements, even though this is the last week of the season.

Spencer Horwitz, Rafael Lantigua, Andrew Bash and Anthony Morales have moved up from Vancouver.

In Vancouver, PK Morris, Addison Barger and Harry Ray arrive from Dunedin.
mendocino - Tuesday, September 14 2021 @ 07:55 PM EDT (#407030) #
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