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The farm went 4-1 and Lance Broadway and Kyle Drabek's 3/1 GB/FB ratio were the worst of the 4 starters.

Colorado Springs 7 at Las Vegas 12

Well, boom goes the dynamite. This one was close until the 5th, when, as mentioned, boom went the dynamite. The 51s struck for 10 runs against Colorado Springs, and that was that. How do you score 10 runs in an inning? Well, you go double, sac bunt, single, homer, single, single, double, single, homer, single, walk, single, flyout, double, walk, strikeout. Las Vegas walked 4 times and had 16 hits, half of which were for extra bases. Jorge Padilla and Luis Figueroa both had 3 hits in the 1 and 2 holes; Figueroa is hitting .358 now, albeit without a ton of walks or power. Brett Wallace, JP Arencibia, Adam Calderone and Brad Emaus each had 2 hits, while Brian Dopirak had a hit and a walk. Jonathan Diaz was the only 51 without a hit. Calderone and Figueroa each had a homer and a double, while JP Arencibia hit homer number 11.

Lance Broadway took the ball for the 51s, and continued a run of mediocre/PCL-like starts. He went 6.2 and gave up 4 runs on 9 hits and a walk, whiffing 7. His GB/FB ratio was 3/1. Merkin Valdez and Steven Register were both scored on in relief.

New Hampshire 3 at Akron 4

It was a case of too litle too late last night in Akron. The Fisher Cats were held hitless through six, and fell behind 2-0 as Kyle Drabek gave up a solo home run in the first and a single-double-rbi groundout in the 4th. The bats finally came alive in the 8th and 9th (sort of.) In the 8th the Cats went BB, K, HBP, reached on error, BB (scoring a run) and GIDP. They promptly gave that run back in the bottom half of the inning plus another for good measure, as Vince Bongiovanni, who's been terrible all year, gave up a single, a triple and a sac fly. In the 9th the Cats went K, BB, BB, single, K, single, flyout to end the game. So it seems fair to say there was some excitement. As mentioned Kyle Drabek got the start, and though he only gave up 2 runs in five innings, it wasn't a great start: he walked 4 against 1 K, with the silver lining being his 3/1 GB:FB ratio. The Fisher Cats had 3 hits and drew 7 walks. Adam Loewen and Brian Jeroloman had two free passes apiece and Shawn Bowman doubled for New Hampshire's only extra base hit.

Clearwater 3 at Dunedin 10

The D-Jays may have lost the name battle to the Threshers but they won the on-field matchup. They scored in the first three innings to take a commanding 5-0 lead and never looked back. Adeiny Hechavarria walked and stole second to lead off the game before Brad McElroy doubled him in. In the second the hot John Tolisano doubled, followed by a Brian Van Kirk single and an RBI GIDP. In the third McElroy singled for his second hit, and it was his turn to steal a base before Travis d'Arnaud drove him in with a double and Micheal McDade cashed two more with a homer, his 12th on the year. Dunedin struck again in the 6th off the recently demoted Phillipe Aumont. Tolisano homered, and after 4 walks, a single and a double (not in that order) the D-Jays had plated another 5. While all of this was going on the rehabbing Scott Richmond was having a go at it. He went 5.2 innings and allowed 2 runs, 1 earned on 4 hits, 2 walks and 2 strikeouts. 13 of his 15 outs in play were on the ground.

Tallying up the offensive side of the ledger: though Dunedin only had 10 hits, 6 of them were for extra bases, and they also drew 6 walks and stole 4 bases. Sounds like a winning formula to me.  McDade did the most damage with a homer and a double and 4 RBI. Meanwhile Tolisano was 2/3 with a walk, homer and double, Welinton Ramirez was 2 for 4, as was McElroy, who also doubled, walked and scored twice. Adeiny just had the one walk, while Travis d'Arnaud walked and doubled in his four plate appearances, scoring twice.

Lansing 7 at Peoria 3

This one was scoreless through the top of the sixth when AJ Jiminez doubled home two. Peoria would get one back in the bottom half of the inning, but Lansing tacked on 5 more in the 7th on a Jiminez grand slam to put it out of reach. Chad Jenkins continued his streak of solid performance by going 7 strong innings. He allowed all 3 Peoria runs on 8 hits. He walked none and struck out 3, while 15 of 18 outs on the ground. Lansing only reached base safely 10 times, but a few timely errors, hit batsmen, passed balls and wild pitches didn't help Peoria's cause. As you may have guessed AJ Jiminez was the star - he drove in 6 with his homer and double. Oliver Dominguez also had two hits, while Kenny Wilson singled, walked twice and scored twice.

DSL Blue Jays 5 at DSL Angels 4

3 Stars!

Hon Men: John Tolisano - 2/3 HR, 2B, BB, 2 R, RBI, SB
Hon Men: Michael McDade - 2/4,HR, 2B, R, 4 RBI
3rd Star: Chad Jenkins - 7 IP 3 ER 8 H 0 BB 3 K 15/3 GB:FB
Second Star: Luis Figueroa - 3/4 HR, 2B, 3 RBI, R
First Star: AJ Jiminez - 2/4 HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI
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Moe - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 10:55 AM EDT (#216851) #
I have a question for the minor league experts:

I know the PDC with the Vegas 51's expires at the end of the season. When are these contracts renewed? And what are the odds of the Jays being able to move back East, possibly even to Syracuse?
Helpmates - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:00 PM EDT (#216859) #

When are these contracts renewed? And what are the odds of the Jays being able to move back East...

I'm no expert, but I'm not so sure it's a matter of "renewal" so much as it is a matter of re-negotiating.  I think a couple years ago, the Jays were in a bind as far as their AAA team was concerned, so they settled for Las Vegas.

Actually, I'm hoping they find a franchise somewhere in Canada for their next AAA site.  I wonder if that's within the realm of possibility.  Somewhere on the East Coast, of course.

John Northey - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:01 PM EDT (#216861) #
Heh. Syracuse is a 0% chance of occurring as they were tired of the Jays promising a competitive team then getting a dud year in, year out. has the dates they run out. Buffalo is done at the end of this year as well, but I doubt the Jays will be able to make a deal unless LV does really well.
Marc Hulet - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:12 PM EDT (#216862) #
Kevin Ahrens has been demoted to Lansing and Mark Sobolewski is up to Dunedin.
sweat - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:13 PM EDT (#216863) #
I believe in order for that to happen, someone would have to buy an existing AAA team, and move them to Canada.  There are some rumours that the guy who owns the oilers is angling to by the Vegas 51's and move them to Edmonton.  Sadly, 300 kms to far north for me, if it happens.
John Northey - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:16 PM EDT (#216864) #
Looking through that site I see the following for the Jays...

AAA: runs out after 2010
AA: after 2012
A+: Dunedin - owned by Jays
A: Lansing - after 2010
A-: Auburn - after 2010

So AA gets to put his mark on the minors with 3 teams potentially moving.

Who in AAA is moving?
International League...
Buffalo Bisons - New York (NL)
Charlotte Knights - Chicago (AL)
Norfolk Tides - Baltimore
Pawtucket Red Sox - Boston
Rochester Red Wings - Minnesota
Syracuse Chiefs - Washington

Albuquerque Isotopes - Los Angeles
Colorado Springs Sky Sox - Colorado
Fresno Grizzlies - San Francisco
Las Vegas 51s - Toronto
Nashville Sounds - Milwaukee
New Orleans Zephyrs - Florida
Oklahoma RedHawks - Texas
Omaha Royals - Kansas City
Portland Beavers - San Diego
Reno Aces - Arizona
Round Rock Express - Houston
Sacramento River Cats - Oakland
Tacoma Rainiers - Seattle

Most won't move as they are comfortable with their current ML team. I'd be surprised to see Buffalo or Pawtucket change for example.

Teams who have poor records thus might want to shift... (records sub-400)
PCL: Portland (San Diego - no better for Jays)
Int: Lehigh Valley (not available)

Hrm. Not good. What about attendance? In the International League two teams are far below the others (900+ per game, just 3800 per game each) - Charlotte (CWS) & Scranton/WB (not open for a new team yet). Norfolk (Baltimore) & Gwinnett (not available) are the next level (high 4k per game). In the 5's are Syracuse & Rochester - Rochester would be nice as it is in NY state and the Twins wouldn't be any more of a draw than the Jays. Might be the best shot and at 25-36 they can't be happy with the team they have either.
Moe - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:29 PM EDT (#216865) #
Well, you might argue that the Jays become a bit more attractive now. They are rebuilding which means that (hopefully) lots of talent will work its way through the system. It hasn't reached AAA yet but the lower teams are doing alright. Plus one might be able to sell the Jays on all the arms that are coming up which will work better in the IL.
Moe - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 12:36 PM EDT (#216866) #
Actually, Buffalo can't be to excited to be attached to the Mets. But I believe there was hope the Jays would get them two years ago.

Btw, I noticed that the Braves own their AAA team. I'm surprised they are the only ones.
jerjapan - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 01:09 PM EDT (#216867) #

Beeston spoke repeatedly about getting a minor league affiliate(s) in Canada when I saw him speak with Damien Cox earlier in the season.

But as John Northey points out, there aren't too many likely candidates ... year after mediocre AAA year has given us a bad rep it seems. 

I would have thought a vet-heavy AAA roster would have a chance at winning ... any more informed Bauxites know why we are always below .500 at AAA?

Ducey - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 01:57 PM EDT (#216868) #

Hello from Edmonton,

Katz may want to bring a AAA team here but that dream is unlikely to happen.  The Trappers were a successful team back in the day but once Calgary and Vancouver folded it was deemed that Edmonton was too far away from the other franchises and the team was forced to move.

In other words, Calgary and Vancouver would have to set up teams too.

I have often thought that a short season league involving Edmonton, Calgary, Red Deer, Regina, Saskatoon and perhpa a few other places would work perfectly.  It would be a step down in terms of quality from the Independent ball (supposedly) but would be a big draw as we could watch future major leaguers.

TamRa - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 01:59 PM EDT (#216869) #
While I'm not that high on Edmonton since it would still be in the PCL (albeit from what I read it would still be a far better facility than in Vegas) I do very much like the concept of the Jays bying the 51's and moving them SOME place in Canada, but preferably one far enough East to get into the IL

Short of that, Rochester, Buffalo, Charolette and Norfolk are all attractive (two for nearness, and two for the fact they warm up faster in the spring, and all for being in the IL)

I'm not well versed enough on the politics, drama, and socio-economics of Canadian cities to speculate on potential locations (for instance, Montreal would appear to be logical to an American, but would they resent being a secondary city to Toronto? It's that sort of thing I just can't know except second and third hand opinions)

Mike Green - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 02:06 PM EDT (#216870) #
for instance, Montreal would appear to be logical to an American, but would they resent being a secondary city to Toronto

Well, seeing as the whole country is part of's blackout zone, can a name change to the "Canada Geese" be long in coming?  ;-)  The Montreal Royals do have a proud history, of course, and it would be great to tap into that. 
TheBunk - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 02:27 PM EDT (#216871) #
It seems silly to judge a potential franchise on how their triple A team did in the previous year, it would be more likely that the potential city would judge the Double A/High A teams/Lower minor teams and the organization as a whole which has recently been completely turned over. It would seem that the Blue Jays organization at this point would be attractive to various cities.
Matthew E - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 02:38 PM EDT (#216872) #
Well, you might do that, but that doesn't seem to be how it works. And the Jays' history of subgood AAA teams is an extensive one.
martinthegreat - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 02:57 PM EDT (#216873) #
A return of the Montreal Royales would be sweet. but unlikely? Though with AA's Montreal roots and seeming desire to make the team more Canadian who knows...
Nick Holmes - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 03:56 PM EDT (#216874) #
Can't imagine where a Montreal team would play. The big O & Jarry park are very unlikely.

I can imagine Quebec City (pain in the arse for bus rides) or Ottawa (recent failure of the Lynx) only with firm support from the Big League club.
It blows my mind how quickly minor league ball disappeared from Canada, considering twenty years ago there were teams in six provinces. I think if tv blackout rules were eliminated, or changed (add Boston in the east, Twins on the Praries, Seattle in BC, maybe the Tigers in SW Ontario & the Soo) the sport might grow, but right now it seems more likely that hockey will thrive in Arizona.
In the meantime, agressively poaching a team closer to home & screwing Vegas wouldn't seem like Rogers' plan.
John Northey - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 03:59 PM EDT (#216875) #
I think there are a variety of things that go into it.

For example, a team near Boston would want the Red Sox as their MLB team no matter what, even if the team went 0-144. A team that is nowhere near a ML team though might only want wins though. You also get deals between the ML team and the AAA one that factor into it - if the Jays offer to cover the costs of fixing the field (for example) or if the Jays showed they could get city councils to help out teams then the Jays would become attractive.

In the end I'd suspect the priorities for a AAA team are...
1) A nearby ML team that fans love (thus drawing people in no matter what)
2) A winner (thus drawing people in no matter what)
.... (big spread)
3) Bonus cash or other items.

What is funny is, as a baseball fan, I'd rather have an independent league team than a AAA one as then you know the team is trying to win. Vegas fans had to sit through Rzep & Litsch doing extended workouts rather than seeing the best possible team (for example). But, that said, if an A ball team was playing nearby and was a Blue Jays team then I probably would be more interested just due to my Jays addiction :P
LouisvilleJayFan - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 06:07 PM EDT (#216879) #
Having attended many Louisville Bats games, I would have to (quite obviously) agree that geographic relevance to the Major League club plays a big part in what a AAA team wants in a MLB team. You see tons of Reds hats at Bats games as Cincy is only about an hour and a half up the road. Further on that point, Louisville had the Brewers as their affiliate before the Reds. That deal lasted only a couple years and didn't do much to attract anyone but the dozen or so Brewers fans in the city. However, I do think there are teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, Yankees, and possibly the Dodgers that would draw well in most any AAA city.

Coincidentally, I went to a Gwinnett Braves game a few days ago as I was in Georgia visiting my wife's family and that team is only about 30 minutes away from Atlanta. It kind of made me feel bad for the Jays situation in Vegas. I can't imagine there are many Jays fans out there in Nevada.

By the way, saw Jesus Montero and the SWB team against that Braves squad. He looks like he's really struggling. 0 for 4 in that game and he even threw his helmet against the dugout wall after his third AB. Another case of an overhyped Yankees prospect if you ask me.

uglyone - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 06:15 PM EDT (#216880) #
So yeah, we might have something with this Jimenez kid. Those offensive numbers are starting to approach eye-popping level for an athletic 20 year old catcher in that league.
#2JBrumfield - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 07:50 PM EDT (#216882) #

I can't see Buffalo and the Mets not re-newing their PDC as the Bisons are having a good season.  I'm holding out hope Rochester doesn't renew its deal with Minnesota.  The Red Wings are having a rough year in the Flour/Flower City and in the past, the two sides have rubber-stamped their deal well before the end of May.  Just pure conjecture on my part but I think the Jays-Vegas connection will probably last two more years out of necessity.

Moe - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#216884) #
How can a team with little top end talent such as the Mets have a good AAA team? It seems that the AAA standings are rather independent of the strength of the farm system.
Moe - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 08:53 PM EDT (#216886) #
Here is one piece of info I found at BA:
"There have been plenty of rumors that this will be the Astros' final season in Triple-A Round Rock because Express owner Nolan Ryan will likely bring the Rangers to town. Ryan is on the verge of becoming a co-owner of the Texas Rangers with veteran minor league operator Chuck Greenberg."

Texas is in Oklahoma right now. Not sure this is better than Las Vegas (harder to get to, don't know about their ballpark) but it would be one way out if the Jays were desperate and Rochester is not happening.
cybercavalier - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 09:05 PM EDT (#216887) #
Nice suggestion, Moe. Ideally the Rangers, the Astros and the Jays shuffle their Triple-A affiliation, if the Jays can't get theirs in the IL.
vw_fan17 - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 09:11 PM EDT (#216888) #
Hmm, well..

Las Vegas is way closer to ME (Bay Area) than Oklahoma.. Of course, Sacramento would be the closest (and my wife has a good friend there)..

Then again, the total sum of non-MLB baseball games I've attended as a spectator when there wasn't a personal connection is one, the K-W (or just W?) Tigers who played in Bechtel Park way back when..

kinguy - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 10:59 PM EDT (#216889) #
While I'm not that high on Edmonton since it would still be in the PCL (albeit from what I read it would still be a far better facility than in Vegas) I do very much like the concept of the Jays bying the 51's and moving them SOME place in Canada, but preferably one far enough East to get into the IL

But even if that were to happen, you wouldn't be able to move just one team into the IL.  You'd have to find a second team willing to move as well so there would be an even number of teams in each league.  And it may not be easy as just wanting to move from one league to the other.  From a geographical perspective, New Orleans, Memphis and Nashville make more sense as IL teams than PCL, but I haven't heard of any of those teams clamouring to switch leagues.

I have to agree with #2JB that unless something happens between Rochester and Minnesota, the Jays will be in Las Vegas for another two years.
slitheringslider - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 11:22 PM EDT (#216890) #
Over at John Sickels', there is a thread discussing the Jays' post-draft top 30 prospect rankings. I don't know how many Jays fans or bauxites have weighed in but I encourage those interested in prospects or the Jays farm system to check it out. I would be interested to hear Gerry and other farm experts weigh in on where the new draftees fit in the prospect rankings.
Lugnut Fan - Friday, June 11 2010 @ 11:47 PM EDT (#216891) #
The PDC's can be renewed at anytime. The later in the season it gets however, the less likely the current partnership will be renewed. What happened with the Jay's and 51's is they were forced together by MLB as they were two teams that were left without partners. It takes two to tango and the minor league clubs have as much say in who they are affiliated with as the MLB club does and maybe even slightly more depending on how many clubs want the affiliation. At this point, there is no chance a AAA affiliation with the Jays in Canada will exist next year. For that to happen, someone would have to buy a AAA franchise and work a deal out to move it which could be tricky depending on lease agreements and such. You also would have to have the IL or the PCL agree with the move. I think Rochester would make a lot of sense for the Jays to partner with, but Rochester would have to choose the Jays as well.

Also, I'm pretty sure the director of player development does the negotiations. AA may be involved, but I think it would just be to present his opinion. I don't believe he would be doing the negotiating.
TamRa - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 01:25 AM EDT (#216892) #
Over at John Sickels', there is a thread discussing the Jays' post-draft top 30 prospect rankings.

Not seeing the thread you mention - at least not one with a Jays' specific title.

I tried the other night to do a "quick and dirty" update of a top prospect list intigrating the better draftees into a revisedversion of my previous top prospect list and came out with this purely subjective result:

1. Drabek
2. Wallace
3. Alvarez
4. Adeiny
5. d'Arnaud
6. Jenkins
7. McGuire (I pretty much always default the #1 pick to some slot in the top 10)
8. Arencibia
9. Stewart
10. Marisnick
11. C. Perez
12. Wojciecowski (sp) (being closer and more advanced than the high schoolers)
13. Jeroloman <big rise
13. Thames
14. Pierre
15. Sierra
16. Loewen
17. Emaus
18. Sanchez
19. Jimenez
20. Pastornicky
20. Jackson (tie)
22. Collins
23. Mills (control issues have cost him 8-10 spots)
24. Mastorianni
25. McDade
26. Bell
27. Tolisano
28. Syndergaard
29. Cooper (honorary)
30. Magnuson

Won't quibble the individual slots, and if I went to 40 I'd likely include Murphy and Bryant, but it's a rough guess.

slitheringslider - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 01:50 AM EDT (#216893) #
It is one of the fanposts on the side. I think your rankings are pretty good, I would move up AJ Jimenez and Trystan Magnuson though. Magnuson is crushing AA right now, sure he is a little old for the level, but his chance of carving out a role in the big leagues as a reliever is much higher than many of the prospects in the top 30.
uglyone - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 02:17 AM EDT (#216894) #
I've tried my own top-30, but damn it's hard.

I mean Tolisano is posting an .870ops right now as a 21 year old infielder in Dunedin. and Loewen is one of the best natural all around talents around, and it looks like he's figured this hitting thing out pretty good. and Jimenez is showing better than D'Arnaud did last year in A ball. and I'll be honest, a guy like Cooper doesn't have a chance in hell of cracking my top-30 right now.

Here's a top-30 that I did a few days ago, but I've already made changes after some feedback:

  • 1) K.Drabek
  • 2) T.D'Arnaud
  • 3) B.Wallace
  • 4) C.Jenkins
  • 5) D.McGuire
  • 6) A.Hechevarria
  • 7) Z.Stewart
  • 8) B.Mills
  • 9) H.Alvarez
  • 10) J.P.Arencibia
  • 11) T.Pastornicky
  • 12) T.Collins
  • 13) A.Wojciechowski
  • 14) A.Jimenez
  • 15) A.Loewen
  • 16) J.Tolisano
  • 17) M.Sierra
  • 18) M.McDade
  • 19) C.Lubanski
  • 20) B.Emaus
  • 21) E.Thames
  • 22) A.Sanchez
  • 23) J.Marisnick
  • 24) C.Perez
  • 25) G.Pierre
  • 26) B.Jeroloman
  • 27) T.Magnusson
  • 28) R.Goins
  • 29) C.Ochinko
  • 30) R.Schimpf
but honestly, after the top 5 or 6, I could switch guys all over the place there. The Sanchez/Marisnick/Perez/Pierrre "upside" crew could all be top-10 talents here, but I don't know how to move them up ahead of guys spanking the higher levels at young ages.

Meanwhile, I'm holding guys like Jeroloman and Magnusson down because they're too old for their level, but they're destroying that level so effectively that maybe I shouldn't.

and the crazy thing is that I think all 30 of those guys there are worth watching.

and heck, Uviedo might be worth watching as well.

stevieboy22 - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 02:34 AM EDT (#216895) #


I'm always a big fan of your posts (to spite that guy who claimed you treat this board like its your own blog).. I don't see how you can post McDade so low.. The fact that pro coaches loved him this spring, and he is one of the top hitters in Dunedin yet only 21 years old, I have big hopes..

I also must say I found it interesting hearing Riccardi say he thought Pastornikcy would be the shortstop of the future on the fan this week... I always discounted Pastornicky's status because of his lack of power, but I really respect JP's opinion...

If the Jays have one of the worst minor league systems in the majors, as claimed by Baseball America, then it would appear there is easily enough talent to talk MLB expansion...

TamRa - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 04:00 AM EDT (#216897) #
McDade - I'm just going slow with him because he's only "put it all together" for about six weeks now. Beware the curse of sample size. (Tolisano is in a similar position - he's pounding the ball right now, but he's only been doing so for a month or so). Also, it's worth noting that I think an awful lot of the guys above him.

I know realistically that the Jays are not going to have 25 prospects make it, or even most of them, but McDade's rank is not me saying "i don't think much of him" bt rather me saying I like a lot about the guys above him, either because they are closer, or have a longer track record of success, or because they play a more premium position.

On Pastornicky - I don't want to disrespect him, he's holding his own well for his age at that level, but he's not just beating the door down for a promotion either, plus again, it's more about what i think of the guys above him than thinking little of him.

Magnuson is crushing AA right now, sure he is a little old for the level, but his chance of carving out a role in the big leagues as a reliever is much higher than many of the prospects in the top 30.

I'm applying the common philosophy that there's more potential value in, for instance, a quality RF (like Sierra for instance) than in a quality reliever, even if the reliever has far safer odds of reaching his ceiling.

(to spite that guy who claimed you treat this board like its your own blog).

I musta missed that since I didn't spend 2,000 words arguing with him, lol. Or do you mean the guy who said this place is "not about me"?

Mike Green - Saturday, June 12 2010 @ 04:38 PM EDT (#216908) #
A mid-season prospect poll would be fun. 

My top 5 pitchers (I won't place the 2010 draftees until they pitch but off performance, McGuire would slot in behind Jenkins):

1. Drabek
2. Alvarez
3. Stewart
4. T. Collins
5. Jenkins

My top 5 position players:

1. D'Arnaud
2. Hechevarria
3. Pastornicky
4. Perez
5. Sierra

Jimenez would be 6th, and Emaus 7th. 

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