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Following up on a off topic post in a previous thread... Anthony DiComo of reported a few hours ago that Brad Emaus was designated for assignment by the Mets.

NEW YORK -- The winner of the second-base competition lasted less than three weeks on the job. The Mets on Tuesday designated Brad Emaus for assignment, replacing him on the roster with Justin Turner and ending his brief reign as the starting second baseman.

Emaus, 25, won the starting second-base job after a lackluster spring in which none of the four main candidates distinguished themselves. A Rule 5 Draft pick from the Blue Jays, he must now be offered back to Toronto for $25,000, half of what the Mets paid to draft him.

Upon winning the spring competition over Daniel Murphy, Luis Castillo and Turner, Emaus was promised ample playing time in which to prove himself. But he struggled throughout the first two weeks of April, losing more and more playing time to Murphy. Emaus completed his tour in Flushing with a .162 average and no extra-base hits in 37 at-bats.

Turner, 26, enjoyed arguably the best spring of any Mets second baseman, but his campaign was undermined by his Minor League options. Prior to his promotion, Turner was hitting .300 with three doubles and two triples in 40 at-bats for Triple-A Buffalo.

It is not clear whether Turner or Murphy will assume the everyday second-base job or if the Mets plan to platoon the two infielders. 

What say you, fellow Bauxites?  Is Brad coming back?  And what would that mean for the line-ups in AA and AAA?

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China fan - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 05:23 PM EDT (#233085) #

The Jays should take back Emaus and send him to Las Vegas.  He'd only be bumping Manny Mayorson, a 28-year-old who is not a significant prospect.  It's possible that the major-league experience will benefit Emaus, accelerating his development and putting him in the running to be a future Jays infielder.  There's a definite paucity of good 2B talent in the Jays system, so he could help to fill a need.

cybercavalier - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 05:48 PM EDT (#233088) #
I agree with Chinafan on sending Emaus to Vegas after taking him back. But I would prefer sending IF Niumen Romero to New Hamsphire or minor league system of another team, so opening an option for trade. Recently, Loewen is struggling at the plate to open the season and Lawrie made some infield error despite his athleticism. Emaus would just plug right in to second base or part time third base if Lawrie needs rest. Mayorson can play SS and 2B, and with McCoy possibly splitting time with Loewen in RF: McCoy and Loewen would make a nice RHB/LHB platoon in RF, with Jason Lane. Between Romero and Mayorson, I would pick Mayorson for his performance at AAA and his years in Jays' minor league system.
Magpie - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 06:49 PM EDT (#233096) #
Obviously, Emaus is completely useless - he`d gone 2-24 in his last 9 games. What more proof could you need? Get rid of him, banish him to the outer darkness...

The Mets, the Mets. They`re paying Bobby Bonilla, Luis Castillo, Oliver Perez, Jason Bay, and Johan Santana $57.6 million this year. None of those guys have played a game for them, and three of them never will. (h/t Jayson Stark)
cybercavalier - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 08:08 PM EDT (#233102) #
Last season in AAA, Emaus was .890 OPS in Vegas. Given the inflation of batting stats in Vegas, Emaus was not ready for MLB. (Remember Jarrett Hoffpauir ?). Also, the Jays' organization is familiar with him and his progress in the minor league, so his "homecoming" would be accepted in AAA. Is he worth a chance in AAA ? I think so. Unless proofs are present for or against his welcoming and performance in AAA, so far there haven't any.

For overpaying Mets players, it is Mets' managerial problem in the Jays' perspective. Emaus are not among them.
scottt - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 08:41 PM EDT (#233104) #
Seems unlikely that an other team would pick him up. So he'll probably return to the Jays or be traded to the Mets.  Might depends on what numbers the new call up post in his first week.

ComebyDeanChance - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 09:22 PM EDT (#233106) #
I don't think the Jays would have let Emaus go if they thought he was worth having.
cybercavalier - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 09:56 PM EDT (#233110) #
My point is that Emaus is worth a chance in AAA. IMO, the micromanagement on each trade and transaction seems to create an impression: each minor league transaction has been calculated to the point that it is always a right move. No harm in resigning him, really, unless the argument is that he is not worth $25000 and other costs to support him for the 2012 AAA season. Last season, even Kyle Phillips, Chris Aguila and Jorge Padilla can be flipped to another AAA team. Or the 51s have an infield from middle infield McCoy, Mayorson and Woodward and does not need Emaus' service. When there is an upgrade, why not do it.
Mick Doherty - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 11:05 PM EDT (#233111) #
mamboon, FYI, something weird was happening with the link in your teaser URL so I went in and edited/fixed it. Hope you don't mind!
ComebyDeanChance - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 11:16 PM EDT (#233113) #
Would they not have to remove someone else from the 40 man?
hypobole - Tuesday, April 19 2011 @ 11:52 PM EDT (#233125) #
Since he has to pass through waivers, I don't think we will have to put him on our 40 man, at least until next November.
TamRa - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 12:19 AM EDT (#233129) #
either they will take him back or the Mets will send someone AA likes better in order to obtain him permenantly and send him down.

I don't understand why this even needs analysis - does it EVER happen that a player is offered back and the original team says "aw screw it, just keep him, eh?"

Not in my (admittedly spotty) memory.

mamboon - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:00 AM EDT (#233131) #

Mick thanks for fixing the link earlier.

And tonight, Hill left the Jays - Evil Empire game... injured hamstring on a sliding steal into second.  Any thought of Emaus filling in for Hill or backing up MacDonald or Nix in Toronto?  If I remember rightly, Emaus was at 3rd at Vegas for a good share of 2010, in addition to playing 2nd.   Maybe they can overlook the 20 errors he had at third in Las Vegas last year. 

Lawrie's giving him a run for his error record with another miscue (throwing)  tonight - that makes 6  in 12 games. Life gets interesting.

And what about Emaus going back to NH and Diaz moving up to Vegas again.  Diaz's is  batting .308 and 500 OBP and .385 SLG so far in 2011 at NH and he did OK in spring training (BA .365) as one of the few non roster invitees still standing at the end of big league camp.   Farrell knows Diaz's play first hand, I don't think he knows Emaus that well.

All this intrigue and all it costs is $25,000 to get Emaus back.  A small price to pay for so much drama.

Ron - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:17 AM EDT (#233132) #
Once service time issues are in the rear view mirror, I hope Lawrie is called up by the Jays. I would feel a lot more comfortable knowing Lawrie is being helped/coached by Butterfield and McDonald every day than Mordecai.
92-93 - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:41 AM EDT (#233133) #
Lawrie's glove is what's keeping him down, not a potential Super-2 status that will likely be scrapped in the new CBA before Lawrie can reach it. If the Blue Jays were so concerned with a 4th year of arbitration they likely would have started Drabek down in the minors before the season or at least optioned him down for Morrow instead of Litsch. Most "experts" not with the Jays seem convinced Lawrie would be best off in RF, so it'll be interesting to follow.
92-93 - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:58 AM EDT (#233134) #
Bigger news is everybody's favourite mancrush, Brandon Wood, has been DFAd. He's been known to set hearts aflutter around here.
hypobole - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:23 AM EDT (#233136) #
Ron - I have no knowledge about Mordecai as an instructor other than him helping Butterfield teach Lind how to play 1st base. What exactly makes you so uncomfortable about him working with Lawrie in Vegas?
Chuck - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 07:16 AM EDT (#233146) #

He's been known to set hearts aflutter around here.

One imagines that any fluttering is over with. Wood's career line: 168/197/259. He has struck out in almost exactly one third of his at bats. This is an ex-parrot.

Mick Doherty - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 10:00 AM EDT (#233153) #
Ooutstanding Monty Python reference, sir. Could John Cleese  handle 2B??
uglyone - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 10:33 AM EDT (#233157) #
I hope we take back Emaus.

Aaron Hill (aka the JJ Hardy of second basemen) is not a very good baseball player.
Paul D - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 10:44 AM EDT (#233158) #
Aaron Hill (aka the JJ Hardy of second basemen) is not a very good baseball player.

This is not true.  His downside is an average second basemen.
uglyone - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 10:49 AM EDT (#233159) #
his downside is worst fulltime second baseman in baseball, like he was last year.

actually, that might not even be his max downside - because he's been even worse this year.
China fan - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 11:48 AM EDT (#233163) #

In the old days, it would have been a blow to the Jays when Hill was injured and John McDonald had to replace him.  But since the beginning of the 2010 season, and including this season, McDonald has actually posted a significantly higher OPS than Hill.  So the current injury to Hill arguably means that the Jays are upgrading at 2B....

Ron - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 12:54 PM EDT (#233170) #

92-93, hypobole:

Iím hoping the Jays call up Lawrie around the middle of June so he wouldnít reach Super 2 Status and they would still control him for 6 full seasons.

Butterfield is the best infield coach the Jays have and I would rather have him working with Lawrie. Lawrie could split time between the 3B and DH position

cybercavalier - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#233175) #
Butterfield is the best infield coach the Jays have and I would rather have him working with Lawrie. Lawrie could split time between the 3B and DH position.

Does sending Lawrie to Toronto a sound choice to work with Butterfield ? That would mean sending a batter to AAA. By thway, what is the Super 2 Status ?
Paul D - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 01:56 PM EDT (#233176) #
his downside is worst fulltime second baseman in baseball, like he was last year.

I thought that this was hyperbole, but I looked him up, and he was 27th in baseball for WAR at 2b. 
AWeb - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:02 PM EDT (#233177) #
his downside is worst fulltime second baseman in baseball, like he was last year.

actually, that might not even be his max downside - because he's been even worse this year.
    Agreed, and it might be time for Jans fans as a whole to start to think this way. Hill not stinking should now be seen as a pleasant surprise, not a return to form. Some players peak earlier, it is sadly possible that Hill was done being useful at the ripe old age of 28.  In the same time frame that Bautista has comfortably established himself as a great hitter in most of our heads, Hill has essentially cancelled him out -averaging the slash lines, they are giving the Jays .236/.328/.498 since the start of last year. Throw Lind (OPS of .611 this year, .712 last year) into the mix, and you have a team with a superstar performer being completely offset and them some by two everyday guys who were supposed to be high level performers.   The choice for fifth starter is not the main thing holding the Blus Jays back from contention this year. Like last year, it's Hill, and it's Lind. How's Overbay doing this year, anyway?
Mick Doherty - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:19 PM EDT (#233179) #

Um, not great, even for Pittsburgh.

Lyle's hitting .234 with n OPS+ of 87 and one homer in 74 PA

92-93 - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:31 PM EDT (#233181) #
Ron, Lawrie is under control for 6 full seasons whether he's called up today or in September. He won't be a FA until 2018.
Mike Green - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:32 PM EDT (#233182) #
A little over-the-top there, AWeb.  Yes, Aaron Hill has been a below average player for 1 full season and 3 weeks.  There is the possibility that he remains there, and there is also the possibility that he returns to his 2007 and 2009 form.  The most likely scenario, of course, is that he settles into the mid-point of the optimistic and pessimistic scenarios as an average or slightly above second baseman. 

It might be that John McDonald could be an average everyday second baseman if he was given the job, but somehow I doubt it notwithstanding his very fine performance in 190 at-bats in 2010 and 2011.  The .444 OBP which he currently sports in 2011 (for a 35 year-old with a career OBP of .278) is a nice illustration of sample size issues.

Hodgie - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:38 PM EDT (#233185) #
To each their own but I am not ready to write off Hill just yet. His biggest problem so far this season has been chasing balls out of the zone. His O-swing rate at balls outside of the strike zone is at a career high at the moment and more than likely a big reason why his BB%, K%, and IFFB are also at career worse marks. Last year's absurd BABIP notwithstanding, I will reserve my judgement until more than 16 games have passed this season.
Dr B - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 02:48 PM EDT (#233187) #
I actually think Hill's problem is motivation. He doesn't want to win hard enough; someone needs to light a fire under him. Someone needs to tell him that he's been dumped from the battersbox banner and to get back on he needs to deliver. You may think this isn't going to work, but I ask you: how are one R. Romero and one J. Bautista doing these days?
Ron - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 03:02 PM EDT (#233189) #
Ron, Lawrie is under control for 6 full seasons whether he's called up today or in September. He won't be a FA until 2018.

I probably should have been more clear in my original post but I was trying to point out if the Jays wait until the middle of June, Lawrie wouldn't reach Super 2 Status. The Jays would control his rights from June to the end of this season and than the next full 6 seasons. By exploiting this loophole in the CBA, the Jays would control Lawrie for a little over 6 and a half seasons (and of course not letting Lawrie go to arbitration 4 times).

uglyone - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 03:13 PM EDT (#233191) #
I have a little more hope for Lind, who's a couple years younger than Hill, and has been better than Hill this year and last (even though he's been awful in his own right), and a much better peak year as well. I also think Lind just plain has better plate coverage and a better swing, and that last year's unbelievable awful performance vs. LHP can't possibly be repeated.

As for Hill, well, I don't hold out much hope for him at this point - I'd be wildly pleased if he could match his career .326wOBA (which is still a comfortably below average hitter) again, but I'm not even counting on him to be able to do that.
AWeb - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 03:22 PM EDT (#233193) #

I haven't given up completely on Hill (or Lind). It's just that they were both among the least valuable players in baseball last year, and most good players don't get that bad and then come back without an injury or something to explain it in the first place. I'd still give both some time to figure it out, but I think the head office has to start fleshing out plans to replace them, even if they end up not having to use these plans.

Overbay might have an OPS of 87, but that is way better than the Jays are getting from first base right now, sadly. I think I'm probably more worried about Lind, since he's not hitting for average, showing patience, or hitting for power. His LD% is very high though, so I must be missing those ABs and only catching the lazy popup/weak grounders - my personal sample size is even smaller than the limited seasonal stats.

Hope I am wrong about those two, who have become a single player in my mind at this point. 2009 awesome, 2010 terrible, 2011 - terrible. The sample size for Aaram Lill is twice as large. If one of them breaks out of it, I'm probably more likely to give the other the benefit of the doubt, oddly.

92-93 - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 03:49 PM EDT (#233196) #
The Blue Jays have shown via Romero, Hill, and Lind that a 4th arbitration year will matter very little. If the player is deserving of the money, it's there. And again, it's very unlikely that the Super Two label still exists by the time Lawrie has 2+ years of service.

Lawrie will be up when he's ready.
Magpie - Wednesday, April 20 2011 @ 06:50 PM EDT (#233209) #
I think I'm probably more worried about Lind

I'm not, but here's what I want to see from Lind (and now might be the time.) What happened to Lind in 2010 was simple - he got off to a solid start, went into a slump and couldn't find his way out. So he stayed in his funk for two whole months. He did eventually sort himself out, and from July through the end of the season, he was fine: .272/.312/.513 with 14 HRs in 73 games.

His former manager actually said that the ability to work his way out of these troughs was something Lind needed to develop.

Well, Lind was 2-24 in his last eight games heading into last night's game, when he had a couple of hits, one of them a huge two-strike hit against the Sandman himself. If he can cut off the bad patches at two weeks rather than two months, that would be a good thing.

As for Aaron Hill... maybe he's the new Vernon Wells. Who the hell knows how he's going to hit, or when he's going to get hurt, or if his defense is all it's cracked up to be.
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