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We're getting down to it now..

On such a full sea are we now afloat;
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures.

The Blue Jays lead Tampa Bay by two games in the quest for the first Wild Card spot - the Rays lead the season series by a single game. Both teams have 13 games remaining, and the first four are against one another. This year's story began in the Trop, that house of Ill Omen, on Friday the 13th. You can probably guess how that turned out.

May 13: Toronto 2 Tampa Bay 5 - A pitching duel between Rasmussen and Gausman; Tampa Bay led 2-0, but the Jays tied it on RBI singles by Guerrero and Tapia. But Gausman came out for the eighth,† had nothing, and Tampa scored three for the win.

May 14: Toronto 5 Tampa Bay 1 - Another tight one. Each team scored once off the starters (Ryu and Yarbrough) before the bullpens took over. The Jays finally broke through for four in the eighth, homers by Hernandez and Jansen being the big blows.

May 15: Toronto 0 Tampa Bay 3 - It went awry for Alek Manoah when Matt Chapman, of all people, threw a double play grounder into right field, allowing the first of three runs to score. The Jays were shut down completely by Springs and four relievers.

Then Tampa Bay came to Toronto for five:

June 30: Tampa Bay 1 Toronto 4 - Yusei Kikichi went six strong innings, allowing just a solo HR to Paredes, fanning eight and walking just one. A brace of two run homers from Hernandez and Espinal accounted for the scoring.

July 1: Tampa Bay 2 Toronto 9 - The good times kept rolling. Berrios battled his way through five innings while the offense cuffed Corey Kluber and David McKay around the yard. Five third inning doubles did the trick.

July 2: Tampa Bay 6 Toronto 2 - In the first game of a Saturday double-header, Guerrero's RBI single gave Gausman an early lead against Rays' ace McClanahan. Alas, the second inning ended with Franco's hard shot off Gausman's ankle, that ended his afternoon and brought Casey Lawrence into the game. McClanahan vs Lawrence. Say no more.

July 3: Tampa Bay 11 Toronto 5 - The Jays summoned Thomas Hatch to start the second game. He was bad, awful, terrible, but he managed to pitch - if you can call it that - into the fifth inning, before being excused with his team trailing 10-1.

July 4: Tampa Bay 7 Toronto 3 - This was a tight battle between Baz and Stripling until everything went to hell in the fifth inning. It was the third trip through the order that did it: it went RBI single (Diaz), single (Franco), two-run HR (Ramirez.) That ended Stripling's day, with the Rays up 4-1 - Trent Thornton made it all academic by immediately allowing another HR (Choi), a single, and another home run (Arozarena.)

And the Jays went back down to Florida at the beginning of August for two more:

Aug 2: Toronto 3 Tampa Bay 1 - Bichette singled in Guerrero in the top of the first and that one run was all Gausman would need. He pitched eight innings of one-hit shutout, striking out 10. Jansen's two-run single in the top of the ninth provided some additional breathing room, which it turned out Jordan Romano would need as he immediately allowed a HR (Walls) in the bottom half.

Aug 3: Toronto 2 Tampa Bay 3 - A see-saw game, featuring Kikuchi and Yarbrough - the Rays broke up a 2-2 tie against Cimber in their half of the sixth when Siri singled, stole second, and scored on a Peralta single. The Jays had just one hit after the fourth inning.

And just ten days ago, the Rays came to Toronto for another five game set.

Sep 12: Tampa Bay 2 Toronto 3 - A tight one between Berrios and a gang of Tampa pitchers, led off by Criswell. The Rays took a 2-1 lead into the eighth, but Tapia singled and Bichette homered.

Sep 13: Tampa Bay 4 Toronto 2 - Game one of a double header and Springs was outstanding, with six shutout innings. The Rays got one off Merryweather and three off White, and Fairbanks slammed the door when the Jays tried to rally.

Sep 13: Tampa Bay 2 Toronto 7 - In the nightcap, Aranda's seventh inning HR put the Rays up 2-1 , but the Jays rallied on Merrifield's two run pinch hit double, followed by Springer's two run HR.

Sep 14: Tampa Bay 1 Toronto 5 - Guerreo's first inning HR gave Stripling an early lead. He took a 5-0 lead into the seventh before the Rays got on the board.

Sep 15: Tampa Bay 11 Toronto 0 - The Rays jumped out to a quick 5-0 lead off Gausman, and McClanahan was untouchable.

You know what? This is a big series. We're going to do all the things. We're bringing everything we've got.

We're bringing the rum.

We're bringing the cigars.

Time for you to step up, Jobu. Show us what you got.


Thu 22 Sep - Berrios (11-5, 4.99) vs Chargois (2-0, 2.76)
Fri 23 Sep - White (1-6, 5.05) vs Springs (9-4, 2.45)
Sat 24 Sep - Manoah (14-7, 2.40) vs Rasmussen (10-6, 2.92)
Sun 25 Sep - Stripling (8-4, 3.21) vs McClanahan (12-6, 2.36)
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Cracka - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 03:16 PM EDT (#422736) #
Two unbelievable stats that I saw on Twitter today:

1. Alltime, The BlueJays are 85-133 at Tropicana Field (.390%). Well, maybe that is believable.... but:

2. The Blue Jays are 5-15 with Whit Merrifield in the starting lineup and 20-2 with him on the bench. Theyíve lost 6 straight when he starts and have won 15 straight when he doesn't.
Gerry - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 03:18 PM EDT (#422737) #
Is there any doubt over McClanahan? He come out of his last start with some muscle issue.
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 04:07 PM EDT (#422738) #
I understood that it was the same shoulder that landed him on the IL.

But the Rays are quie capable of removing him, after he fell behind the Yankees a few runs, for strategic reasons to save him for the Jays.
Nigel - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 04:20 PM EDT (#422739) #
I believe stat #2. Flexibility and capability are not synonymous. Atkins missed that english class.

This should be a really interesting series filled with close grinding games. Time for Jobu to put up or shut up.
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 04:35 PM EDT (#422740) #
Merrifield starts tonight.  Fate tempted. 
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 04:37 PM EDT (#422741) #
In fairness, it's likely that Yarbrough will be pitching by the time the 8 slot (Merrifield) comes up.  Biggio starts at second base and bats ninth. 
bpoz - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 04:42 PM EDT (#422742) #
TB was V good in 2020 & 2021 and about as good as the Jays this season. In 2015 the Jays won 93 games but TB only won 80 so I hope that season the Jays had a winning record against TB.

At some point the Jays have to be able to compete or even beat TB during this current window. They simply have to!!
Magpie - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 05:41 PM EDT (#422744) #
I hope that season the Jays had a winning record against TB.

They did not (9-10), but they did in 2017 (10-9)
Leaside Cowboy - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 06:37 PM EDT (#422746) #
Cuttlefish appetizer. Manta ray entrťe. (Vegan scorn optional.)
Gerry - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 06:45 PM EDT (#422747) #
Espinal to the IL. Otto Lopez activated.
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 07:08 PM EDT (#422748) #
Poor decision by Biggio, as Tabler said while I typed. 
Gerry - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 07:45 PM EDT (#422749) #
Bo doesn't dive.
John Northey - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 07:48 PM EDT (#422750) #
Ugh hate when we get bad Berrios. Mix with very bad luck and it gets ugly.
Four Seamer - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 07:50 PM EDT (#422751) #
Heaven help us if this guy has to start an elimination game in the playoffs.
pooks137 - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 08:15 PM EDT (#422754) #
Who is backup SS with Espinal on the IL?

Otto Lopez?

grjas - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 08:18 PM EDT (#422755) #
Not an ideal time to soil the bed Berrios, with a BP game tomorrow. White and Kikuchi to look forward to in the near future.
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 08:29 PM EDT (#422756) #
Jobu would like some pace to go with the rum and cigars. 
John Northey - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 09:08 PM EDT (#422757) #
Brings up an interesting question I wonder about sometimes. Which is better - a pitcher who throws a shutout, then allows 6 runs his next start over 3 innings the next everytime, or a guy who goes 6 everytime allowing 3 runs? Guy #1 gives you a near lock game 1, near lock to lose game 2, guy #2 always gives you a shot at winning, but not a lock by any stretch. Berrios is guy #1 it seems. When he goes 5+ innings the Jays are 20-2, when he goes less they are 2-5 (probably 2-6 after tonight unless the hitters get going big time). Those 8 games under 5 innings, he allowed 5+ runs in all but 1 of them (1 out, 4 runs, 3 hits, 2 walks, 1 HBP). So while his ERA sucks, Berrios hasn't really hurt the team that much - 22-7 before today when he pitches shows that. The 7 losses the Jays scored 0 runs once (no one could win with that), 3 times the Jays scored 3 runs (winnable, but not easily), 2 times 5 runs and 1 time 7 runs so those 3 were very winnable games. So at most he has realistically cost the Jays 3-6 wins before today. Meanwhile our ace Manoah they Jays are just 16-13 behind, 3 times the Jays were shutout, 3 times just 1 run, 3 times 2 runs, once 3, once 4, twice 5. So those 2 5 run games were a problem (Manoah allowed 3 each time over 5 and 7 innings so the pen pooped the bed). Manoah's losses were all competitive losses outside of the 9-1 loss on May 3rd vs NYY (Manoah though went 6 allowing just 1 so the pen really blew up - Cimber, Merryweather, and Vasquez).
Mike Green - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 09:13 PM EDT (#422758) #
Berrios has been pretty bad. He looked tentative tonight before he even threw a pitch and after he had been staked to a lead.

I like him, but the confidence and conviction just isn't there.
grjas - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 09:31 PM EDT (#422759) #
Ummm. Wouldnít it be a good time to throw Kikuchi out there for a few innings and save the likes of Phelps for tomorrow? Do they really think they are going to score 7 runs against the Tampa BP? If he isnít pitching now, why is he on the team?
uglyone - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 09:32 PM EDT (#422760) #
anger rising.
Waveburner - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 10:06 PM EDT (#422761) #
Agree grjas, if Kikuchi isn't going to soak up innings in a blowout like this, then demote him. To waste a roster spot completely in a pennant race is very frustrating.

Even more frustrating might be the 6 years left on the Berrios contract. Sure hope Stripling is the choice in a wild card game over him.
John Northey - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 10:57 PM EDT (#422763) #
Well, that sucked. But the empty stadium reminded me of why the Rays need to have super-smart front office people to win as they have horrid fan support (bad location - so freaking what? This is a playoff race against the team you want to catch) - just 8,799. The WORST the Jays had this year so far is 18,577 vs the Yankees on May 2nd, one of 3 games at home sub 20k. The Rays, on the other hand, have 4 games sub 8k at home. Their biggest crowd of the year was 25,025 for opening day. That is a sellout for them reached 4 times (other 3 vs the Yankees, 2 in May and 1 in September, all 4 were on weekends). Just 9 games with 20k+. Their TV ratings don't come close to making it up - just 47k per game (Jays are around 500k+ on a bad night). The Jays best home crowds are 45k (3 times so far this year), and in 91/92/93 averaged over 49k per game each year. So at their peak the Jays would get more fans in the stadium than the Rays get watching them on TV now. Why the heck is that team there? That must be a heck of a lease they signed (expires after 2027)
dalimon5 - Thursday, September 22 2022 @ 11:47 PM EDT (#422764) #
I still like Berrios, a lot. Iíve never seen that happen beforeÖ 2 outs and 3 bloop hits go off gloves + 3 more bloop hits. Itís not like he was getting tagged. Nicole and dimed .
vw_fan17 - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 01:14 PM EDT (#422771) #
So, unless we win the last 3, we've lost the season series against the Rays. If we lose 2/3 of the remaining games, probably best to tank and go for WC #3. Seattle will probably pass us, and it would be foolish to go all out to play a game against TB with TB having home field advantage. Exhibit A: last night's loss.
Magpie - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 01:41 PM EDT (#422773) #
probably best to tank and go for WC #3.

Why? Cleveland's given the Jays more trouble than Tampa Bay.
92-93 - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 01:48 PM EDT (#422774) #
Cleveland is 15-3 since they were tied for the division on Sep 5th. They buried Minnesota by going 7-1 against them and just swept away the White Sox too. Again, the only goal the Blue Jays should have is winning every game and having a healthy squad with positive momentum heading into the Wild Card.
Leaside Cowboy - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 03:48 PM EDT (#422777) #
This weekend is already gut-check time.

With the bases empty, only, I suggest IBB # 99.
electric carrot - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 04:05 PM EDT (#422779) #
the only goal the Blue Jays should have is winning every game

I agree with 92-93.
Nigel - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 04:19 PM EDT (#422780) #
I mostly agree with 92/93 but with the caveat that, by about Monday, I would be adjusting my pitching (who pitches when and for how long) with the post season in mind. For example, if I'm the Jays, I'm not pushing my horses (Manoah and Gausman) in their last start(s). I'm trying to steer the bullpen ship into the post season with the right balance of not too much work nor too little. I think this swamps the boat over just "winning at all cost" in the last few games.
99BlueJaysWay - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 04:46 PM EDT (#422781) #
Itís hard for me to wrap my head around the Jays losing the head to head match up with every single one of their potential opponents, while also having the better record (so far).
grjas - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 06:26 PM EDT (#422782) #
ď Interim manager John Schneider said Thursday that Pearson (lat) is building up to cover multiple innings before being activated from the injured list, Keegan Matheson of reports.Ē

Why? Most of the relievers only go one inning. Heís up to 13 innings pitched with good numbers though walks are a bit high. Heís not a BP saviour at this point, but surely heís better than Griffin, Kickuchi, Richards or Merryweather.

As long as his armís holding up, bring him up and letís see how he does. He can build to two innings here.
Mike Green - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 07:30 PM EDT (#422783) #
It looked to me like that bunt was turning toward foul territory.  Chapman had committed to making an impossible play bearing in mind Margot's speed. It would have been better if he had backed off and see what happened. 
James W - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:12 PM EDT (#422784) #
Number sign, robot umps now!
Mike Green - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:17 PM EDT (#422785) #
It isn't called the House of Horrors for nothing.  They would have been out of the inning with no damage if the 3-2 to Choi was called a strike as it should have been.
uglyone - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:20 PM EDT (#422786) #
I discouraged.
Dr. Zarco - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:21 PM EDT (#422787) #
Garcia hasnít looked sharp in weeks. ERA now 9.53 (even discounting the 3 unearned he gave up today). Mayza gave a couple up, Romano has looked human. Tough stretch for the pen that just 10 days ago was looking so good.
Gerry - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:23 PM EDT (#422788) #
I mentioned Bo's fielding in Philly. I make it about four games in a row now that he has made a misplay.

In general I don't have an issue with his fielding but it is unfortunate that his glove has gone cold as his bat has been hot.
Dr. Zarco - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:23 PM EDT (#422789) #
Sorry, thatís Garciaís ERA over last 7 appearances.
Glevin - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:31 PM EDT (#422790) #
The Astros have scored four runs in their last five games against the Orioles going 1-4. Baseball is weird.
dalimon5 - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#422791) #
2022: the year Vladito was exposed.
John Northey - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:32 PM EDT (#422792) #
Amazing how 1 bad ball-strike call changed this game totally. It should be 6-6 right now. Instead it is 10-6. Yeah, Bo's error and the other stuff wasn't the ump's fault, but with the correct call the inning would've been over before that happened. So this is a loss robo-umps might have prevented.
Dr. Zarco - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:36 PM EDT (#422793) #
True, John. But why is Garcia even close to walking the lead off man in a tie game in extras? Sure, that should have been a strike. But without the zone box, it looked a bit low to me and was very borderline. Probably a 50:50 call. Garcia committed the unforgivable of lead off walk and it bit him.
grjas - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:37 PM EDT (#422794) #
Boy the BP is imploding. Bad outings over the last few games from Richards, Bass, Cimber, Romano, Merryweather, and Garcia. Kikuchiís been fine. He hasnít pitched.
Dr. Zarco - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:41 PM EDT (#422795) #
Sheesh. ďIn extras.Ē It obviously wasnít. I need a nap. Or a drink because of this team!
Nigel - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 10:49 PM EDT (#422796) #
The bullpen has always been the biggest risk. Itís got the least amount of talent on the club relatively speaking. But itís generally performed well this year. Management of the pen is going to be a challenge. Schneider hasnít figured out yet that Garcia has turned back into, well, Garcia. He needs to move down the leverage profile.
dalimon5 - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 11:27 PM EDT (#422797) #
Turns out Jobu doesnít like Diablesse rum.
John Northey - Friday, September 23 2022 @ 11:30 PM EDT (#422798) #
Agreed Garcia has been very off lately - just when it really hurts, but at least pre-playoffs. Get it out of his system now before it is win or season over.

The pen in the last 30 days has 6 blown saves - details below including tonight's game.

So Romano is 7 saves-1 hold-2 blown 2.08 ERA over 12 games 13 IP
Garcia 0-2-0 4.61 ERA over 12 games 13 2/3 IP
Mayza 1-4-1 2.25 ERA over 16 games 12 IP
Bass 0-3-1 2.38 ERA over 13 games 11 1/3 IP
Cimber 0-5-0 2.25 ERA over 14 games 12 IP
Richards 0-2-1 9.00 ERA over 12 games 12 IP
Phelps 0-0-1 (really not trusted by Schneider) 5.40 ERA over 10 games 10 IP
Kikuchi 0-0-1 7.84 ERA over 6 games 10 1/3 IP

Still a lot of guys who look like they should be trusted, a few who shouldn't. Garcia seems to need something - is he nursing an injury? Bass seemed very off today - was it too long a break or is he hurting?

Still, the Jays should be a lock to get in - the question is do they get to play at home or do they go to Tampa or Seattle or Cleveland? Going to Seattle would probably be the ideal if they can't be at home as Tampa has been a house of horrors, and Cleveland seems to be getting very hot now. The Jays have more road wins than anyone else in the AL East which is a good omen for the playoffs if they can't slip ahead and stay ahead of the Rays.
bpoz - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 09:47 AM EDT (#422799) #
Baltimore needs to lose a few and the Jays need to win a few. Just get in and hope to advance.

My hope is a window that lasts until 2030. If that happens we should get win records of 88-98. Therefore Highs and lows.

The 2024 team could be very different from the 2022 team player wise. Schneider should still be the manager I expect.
85bluejay - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 09:54 AM EDT (#422800) #
Congratulations to Albert Pujols - I think if he had stayed in St. Louis, he would have broken the all-time record - he got the money (240m vs 215m reportedly last cardinals offer) but being the all-time home run king would have been better both in a historical context, and financially.
Leaside Cowboy - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 10:19 AM EDT (#422801) #
Pujols' homer off Brad Lidge in the 2005 NLCS.

Not quite as dramatic as Bobby Thompson, et al.

As a feat of strength, comparable to Reggie Jackson's 3rd shot, into the batter's eye?
John Northey - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 10:35 AM EDT (#422802) #
Always sad when a guy leaves a city he plays well in, just to learn over many years he made a mistake and comes back with a final peak. One always wonders what if, Pujols today, for us Jay fans it has to be Tony Fernandez who played great here, but his agent gave him bad advise after 1993 so he left and bounced around before returning and making the All-Star team one final time.
Mike Green - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 12:14 PM EDT (#422803) #
The look on Alek Manoah's face at the end of last night's game was something.  Set and determined.  He can carry a team on those broad shoulders and I suspect that tonight will be on of those times.  Looking forward to him banishing some ghouls.

Bichette obviously strained something in his last PA.  With Espinal out, the org does not have any viable options for more than an inning or two.  Barger or even Orelvis should be here.  Otto Lopez has a role but major league shortstop or third baseman is not one of them, and the prospect of Biggio at third, Chapman at short and Merrifield at second for more than a game is not OK.  Service time considerations should have nothing to do with it- management blew it by not having an older shortstop ready in the high minors (flexibility is fine, but you need more than 2 options at shortstop because of the defensive skill required).
bpoz - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 12:35 PM EDT (#422804) #
Agreed Mike Green about management blowing a few small additions. They did well with 3rd C Collins, 4/5 OF Zimmer for defense. JBJ is a good playoff option when the pressure is at its highest.

The big blow up IMO is the #7 & 8th SP. Stripling at #6 was fine (lucky he turned out great). Expecting a SP injury (Ryu) or poor performance (Kikuchi) was a guarantee. Injuries and poor performance can always happen. Severino for NYY. Sale for Boston.
vodkadog - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 02:16 PM EDT (#422805) #
Re the 'zone box': Most realize that this is not the 'real strike zone', it's a product of the individual televising network. In Choi's case last night, the Rays' box showed the pitch half a strike and half a ball. And as Dr Zarko said, it looked low. The Umpire Scorecard had the Jays with a small advantage for the game.
jerjapan - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 02:23 PM EDT (#422806) #
Eric Stamets, signed as a 30 year old coming off a .168 BA, was the only legit SS in Buffalo this year. Dude was released and then resigned because he remains the Ďbestí depth SS option. Weird, given the orbs focus on up the middle defensive players.

.572 OPS this year in AAA. Whoever scouts AAAA depth needs to be fired. You canít hit on a lot of these guys, but we need to hit on some if the yanks and rays are gonna keep finding a Nestor Cortes or a Jeffrey springs
John Northey - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 03:44 PM EDT (#422807) #
So SS backups on good Jays teams...
  • 2015: Reyes/Tulo starters, Goins had the Espinal role (backup), then 64 1/3 innings covered by Jonathan Diaz (20 OPS+, 17 lifetime), Steven Tollenson (108 OPS+, 86 lifetime, but mostly 2B/3B), and Cliff Pennington (58 OPS+, 79 lifetime, normally a SS but tons of time at 2B/3B). None that good a defender and only Tollenson had any batting skill.
  • 1992: Lee starting, Griffin backup (53 OPS+, 67 lifetime), Zoskey 3rd guy (25 innings 121 OPS+ but 12 lifetime so a bit of a SSS fluke)
  • 1985: Fernandez starting (played 163 that year), Lee backup (32 innings as a 20 year old 20 OPS+)
So the backup shortstop is rarely as good as Espinal has been this year, and the 3rd is often either a no-hit 'meh' field guy or a 'meh' hit no-field guy.

The current situation is not one teams can really plan for - when your backup SS is hurt and your regular gets a minor injury so you need the 3rd guy or even a 4th. Unless it is serious then Lopez should be fine out there for a game or two, or a juggling of the team to put someone else at SS. Chapman has 4 games, 1 start at SS (10 innings total), Biggio played 2 innings there in 2018 (in AA), Merryfield played 13 games in the minors at SS (11 starts, 107 innings) plus 7 games in Mexican winter ball (63 innings, all starts) with the last time in 2015. Others might have as well, but those are the ones I checked.

So there are options. If the Jays want to be super-ugly and torture the poor pitcher they would put Chapman at SS, Vlad at 3B, and see if the pitcher walks off the mound at the sight (put Tapia in CF just to make it as ugly as possible). However, logically I'd expect Lopez to start at SS thus allowing everyone else to stay where they are comfortable. It won't be ideal, but hopefully it won't burn the team too badly.
John Northey - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 03:54 PM EDT (#422808) #
Y'know, it has felt like Vlad is having a really off year, yet he leads the team in OPS+ at 134 (Jansen also at 134) Kirk is 132, Bo 128. But ask any fan who is having the better year with the bat between Kirk, Bo, and Vlad most would say Kirk, some Bo due to his recent hot streak, and almost none would pick Vlad. Just goes to show how nuts he was last year (167 OPS+) and how high the expectations are on him now.

Btw, just checked the Jays site and it lists Bo as starting at SS right now. I get the feeling he would have to have a bone sticking out of his body to get him to skip a start right now.
Magpie - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 08:30 PM EDT (#422811) #
Best trade ever.
Mike Green - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 08:36 PM EDT (#422812) #
Drew Rasmussen on the hook for the loss.  For what that's worth. 
Mike Green - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 08:37 PM EDT (#422813) #
The sound off Merrifield's bat was pretty definitive.
Nigel - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 08:51 PM EDT (#422814) #
Happy Blind Squirrel Day! Pushing Manoah hard is an interesting call. I get it but itís not without its risk with the playoffs coming.
Mike Green - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 09:18 PM EDT (#422815) #
Zimmer with the clutch HBP.  Give the man some PAs!
92-93 - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 09:36 PM EDT (#422816) #
2022 Jays stats:

Espinal .692 OPS
Merrifield .689 OPS
tercet - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 10:01 PM EDT (#422817) #
Espinal has crashed to earth/regressed to mean since the ASB.
He can probably be a fine platoon guy going forward, just don't let him face righties.
John Northey - Saturday, September 24 2022 @ 10:35 PM EDT (#422818) #
No kidding tercet... Lets check the 3 2B we have here with 2022 stats...
  • Espinal vs LHP: 301/375/451 vs RHP: 256/304/342
  • Biggio vs LHP: 132/261/263 vs RHP: 216/331/377
  • Merryfield vs LHP: 239/289/428 vs RHP: 238/290/334
Hmm... clearly Espinal vs LHP is the best option by a mile, followed by Merryfield. Biggio vs RHP. Espinal/Biggio is a solid combo and Merryfield is a good super-utility guy who can play 2B/CF/RF.

The 4th option, Otto Lopez, in AAA vs LHP: 363/438/529 vs RHP: 252/335/341 and is down to his final option next year. Wonder if he'll ever get a second PA in the majors.
bpoz - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:52 AM EDT (#422819) #
Regarding prospects like O Lopez (no opportunity given). Injured players like Pearson. Poor performance like Thornton. When do you give up on them? DFA or trade.

Cleveland gave up on Zimmer by trading him for A Castro who was claimed by Baltimore recently. Minimal value it seems. But we did get J Bautista for a young prospect.

Our 40 man roster has a lot of Iffy players and some that will leave as FAs like Stripling, Phelps, JBJ. The Iffy players are Thornton, Kay, Hatch etc... They can be traded for other Iffy players like the Zimmer/Castro trade. Lots of Iffy players all over the league.
Glevin - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 06:50 AM EDT (#422820) #
Was hopeful wspinal found a new level but seems clear he's a (valuable) utility guy. Merrifield not being useless would be a good development for the team. Jays' magic number is six which is pretty safe. Schneider said recently that if the Jays were going for top wild card spot, they'd start Manoah on last day which seems crazy to me. I'd rather play three in Tampa/Seattle with Manoah starting than three at home without him plus, what if you still lose then you do three on the road without your ace.
Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 07:29 AM EDT (#422821) #
Not clear to me. This year, Espinal has been more valuable than Merrifield, Biggio, Teoscar and Gurriel. Over the last two years, Teoscar has been more valuable but not the other three (and it isn't close). Defence matters.

I am glad that the club put him on the IL. He was battling something and struggling (against all types of pitching). Hopefully comes back strong as their everyday second baseman in the playoffs.
scottt - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 08:04 AM EDT (#422822) #
I imagine they've tried to trade Lopez already.
He'd be playable on a club who like platoons. Like Tampa.

Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 08:10 AM EDT (#422823) #
Speaking of defence.  For those who didn't watch last night's game, Vladdy did not look good at the plate (and the results showed up in the boxscore) but he did not carry that out into the field.  His defensive game was sharp and focused, with a smart 3U double play on a ground ball and several good scoops to save his infielders. 
scottt - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 08:23 AM EDT (#422824) #
Guys who are gone include Casey Lawrence.

Merryweather will be out of options, probably given a last shot.

Thornton should go back to starting and be the 6th or 7th starter. (He was an average starter back in 2019).
Kay and Hatch should be moved to the AAA pen to see what they can do in that role.

Kikuchi will remain the big issue. Ryu might be back late next summer.
Pearson hasn't pitched 15 innings but has another option. 

Gage? Capra?
How good is Leo Jimenez defensively?

It's better to have too many guys needing protection than too few.

Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 09:39 AM EDT (#422825) #
I don't see a 40 man problem.  The players who need to be added potentially are: Barger, Tanner Morris, Horowitz, Zulueta, Adrian Hernandez, Orelvis, Cam Eden and Gabriel Martinez.  It's pretty clear to me that you don't need to add all of them, but the current 40 man has three free agents, one easy non-tender, and a whole whack of players who there is absolutely no need to protect.  There are decisions to make but they are among players who are unlikely to be large contributors to a winning team. 
bpoz - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 10:21 AM EDT (#422826) #
Nice list Mike Green. 8 players of which 3 or 4 could be impact players. Orelvis, Barger, Zulueta and maybe Gabe Martinez. G Martinez has stepped up this year.

There are some players that don't need protection but have a good shot at making the Jays at some point in 2023. Juenger (very close), Tiedemann dominated up to AA, Robberse has 111 IP in 2022 and made adjustments for A+ & AA. By 15 starts in AA/AAA next year hRobberse/Tiedemann may be ready for the majors. If/when they get promoted the players dropped probably don't matter.
dalimon5 - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 10:41 AM EDT (#422827) #
Anybody else notice Vladdy constantly runs through 1B and to the left instead of the right or straight through? I donít understand why since heís be called out on the close plays when he turns left.
Leaside Cowboy - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 11:00 AM EDT (#422829) #
I noticed that too. I can remember Frank Catalanotto being tagged out because he did not veer into foul territory.
grjas - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 11:36 AM EDT (#422830) #
VladdyÖ. several good scoops to save his infielders.

Bichetteís lucky he has an ex-third baseman at first or I think his erratic arm would be even more exposed. Certainly would prefer him at second, but doubt that happens in the near future.
Jonny German - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 12:17 PM EDT (#422831) #
I donít think thereís a 40 man problem in terms of having to lose someone with big potential, but I do expect the Jays to lose one or two of the following in the Rule 5:

Davis Schneider
LJ Talley
Rainer Nunez (does have good potential, but unlikely to stick as a Rule 5 pick)
Tanner Morris
Adam Kloffenstein (could still be a good reliever eventually)
Brandon Eisert
Jimmy Robbins

Iím assuming these cuts from the current 40-man:

Vinny Capra
Bradley Zimmer (may be re-signed, I expect his role to remain in 2023)
Casey Lawrence
Anthony Kay
Tayler Saucedo
Thomas Hatch

And I expect these guys to be added:

Addison Barger
Orelvis Martinez
Spencer Horwitz
Gabriel Martinez (unlikely to be picked in Rule 5 but too much upside to risk it)
Yosver Zulueta
Adrian Hernandez (not totally sure about this one, whether or not his stuff will play in the bigs is not apparent from the stats)
Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#422832) #
Thanks, Jonny.  I missed Jimmy Robbins. 

Currently on the 40 man are Tsutsugo, Tapia, and Foster Griffin also.  The organization may have given up on Merryweather also. The fact that Matt Gage was not called up also suggests he may not be around. 
92-93 - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 12:41 PM EDT (#422833) #
There needs to be an attempt to advance to 2nd base for it to matter which way the runner turns his body. Guerrero hasn't been tagged out on that because his intent (or lackthereof) is clear.

Huge ballgame today that could be the deciding factor for home field advantage in the Wild Card. If the Jays can pull off a win and go 5-4 the rest of the way they will probably host.
85bluejay - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:08 PM EDT (#422834) #
Looks to me like the Jays are heading for the worst case #2 WC seed.
Kasi - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:35 PM EDT (#422835) #
Why is that exactly worst case? Now sure if Tampa is number one seed I agree thatís not ideal. But would you rather be third and going to Cleveland or second and going to Seattle? I am pretty sure Iíd rather be facing Seattle. Tampa by far has the hardest schedule going forward and I think theyíre likely to finish third.
Jonny German - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:37 PM EDT (#422836) #
I think thereís not much to choose between Gage and Griffin - theyíre both potentially good 2nd or 3rd lefties out of the pen, but you donít want to have to count on them at this point. Recalling Griffin was not necessarily a sign of them preferring him over Gage - it was always going to be a very short gig, and now that heís been optioned back down itís Gage whoís up for the next - potentially longer and more important - recall.

I hope the team is ready to move on from both Tapia and Merryweather, but I expect theyíll attempt to deal them before simply cutting them.

Tsutsugo is not currently on the 40-man. I think heís a good candidate to sign to a minor league deal and give him a shot at earning a bench job next spring.
92-93 - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:51 PM EDT (#422837) #
Kirk watches strike one go by with no intent to swing, takes a nice slider for strike two, and then clobbers an 0-2 fastball for a HR.

Next inning Springer is all over a 2-0 slider for a 2-run dinger. Great start, these Jays are so easy to root for.
Petey Baseball - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:53 PM EDT (#422838) #
Springer still hitting home runs with a bum elbow. Pretty impressive stuff.
Nigel - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 01:54 PM EDT (#422839) #
Some great approaches to hitting McClanahan today. Heís so tough on RH batters if you try and pull him. You can see why he has significant reverse splits. This is a tough match up for the Jays RHs and they are having a very good start to their day.
Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 03:19 PM EDT (#422840) #
Vladdy could use a day off. 
Mike Green - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 03:46 PM EDT (#422841) #
464 feet on that Teoscar home run.  It's been a while since a Blue Jay has hit one more than 450. 
uglyone - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 04:10 PM EDT (#422842) #
Good sign that they were able to battle back and save the series.
scottt - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#422843) #
They need to stay ahead of the Rays.
I've already seen a best of 3 at the Trop.

The Mariners have not played well on the road dropping 3 in LA, 2 in Oakland and so far 1 of 2 in KC.
Will they bounce back at home against Texas/Oakland/Detroit?

Will Aaron Judge hit his historical HRs in Toronto?
Should the Jays even pitch to him?

Glevin - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:07 PM EDT (#422844) #
Wow. Mariners blowing a nine run lead to Royals is certainly something. Not sure Royals can keep the lead but still.
mathesond - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:16 PM EDT (#422845) #
It all started when Robbie Ray got ejected before the game even started...
85bluejay - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:53 PM EDT (#422846) #
On March 14th the Jays signed Yusei kikuchi who had been abysmal and pitched himself out of Seattle's rotation to a 3/36m contract and on March 18th the Dodgers signed Tyler Anderson who had essentially replaced kikuchi in Seattle's rotation to a 1/8m contract - I really would like to read the Jays scouting report on the pitchers.
Geoff - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:56 PM EDT (#422847) #
Just have to get France out.

Come on, Royals... One out to go...
Geoff - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 05:58 PM EDT (#422848) #
The Royals win!
grjas - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 06:02 PM EDT (#422849) #
Giving up 11 runs in one inning! Ouch.
85bluejay - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 06:18 PM EDT (#422850) #
Not a single team in the WC race has played above .500 baseball in the last 10 games - that's just shameful - at least the jays had the toughest schedule and managed a .500 record.
Magpie - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 06:21 PM EDT (#422851) #
Tampa by far has the hardest schedule going forward and I think theyíre likely to finish third.

That seems most likely to me as well. Tampa not only has to play the better teams, they have to do it on the road and they have the biggest home-road split in the league. They're much better in their own little House of Horror.

But nine games left. A lot can happen. And probably will.
Magpie - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 06:27 PM EDT (#422852) #
Not a single team in the WC race has played above .500 baseball in the last 10 games - that's just shameful

One of those teams has won 16 of its last 24. Splitting a couple of series on the road against teams going to the post-season isn't all that shameful.
dalimon5 - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 07:42 PM EDT (#422853) #
Unless you asked for scouting reports the Jays had on Kikuchi before the signing, whatís the point of bringing it up again now? I donít hear or see the Jays defending their signing or overplaying him. Itís pretty simple, they likely saw potential in him like they did in Robbie Ray and so far they havenít unlocked him. Beyond what they saw in scouting reports, they saw a lefty starter who can throw 96+ and had one hell of a half season last year.

Letís stop beating a dead horse here.
John Northey - Sunday, September 25 2022 @ 07:57 PM EDT (#422854) #
So 2 up on the Rays with 3 vs NYY, 3 vs Boston (who the Jays have beat up pretty good this year), and 3 in Baltimore. Safe to expect the Jays to go at least 3-6, which would mean the Rays need to go 5-4 to catch up. If the Jays go 6-3 then the Rays would need an 8-1 record vs 3 @ Cleveland, 3 @ Houston, 3 @ Boston. I figure their worst case is 3-6 as well, given their road record/quality of opponents the most likely is 4-5. Seattle is all home, 3 vs Texas, 3 vs Oakland, 4 vs Detroit (10 games, double header on the 4th) so they'll be exhausted when it is done. Seattle used 5 relievers today with just 1 going over 20 pitches, all doing 10+ pitches. I'd say Seattle needs their starters to be on for the final 10 with that nightmare double header near the end. They may have easier opponents but 10 in 9 days is not an easy way to end the season.

Baltimore is 6 1/2 behind the Jays now and a non-factor. They should be eliminated from contention well before the final 3 games. No matter what Baltimore will finish ahead of Texas and the Angels which I doubt many would've predicted pre-season, and would need a horrid final stretch to not stay ahead of Boston (6 1/2 up on the Red Sox). And that is why they play the games.
bpoz - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 08:47 AM EDT (#422855) #
Cleveland is interesting. Very successful with a lot of rookies. I will need to see where these kids came from. ie drafted, traded for and developed in both categories. Cleveland like Oakland does periodic rebuilds.

Then there is TB. Who are their home grown pitchers? McClanahan, Josh Fleming and Phoenix Sanders are all of them. There are a few conclusions a person can make 1) They cannot develop their own. McClanahan is just 1 guy. I definitely give them credit for B Snell and others moved out. 2) They must be scouting other minor league teams and trading for them. 3) Bringing in other teams disappointments and trying to fix them. 4) Any disappointment is a potential success for them. Developed and tweaked in AAA quite likely. The Durham Bulls are their AAA team.
bpoz - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 09:22 AM EDT (#422856) #
Well said about Kikuchi dalimon5. There are rights for any FA signing with a team. Kikuchi signed for a spot in the rotation. He obviously lost that rotation spot.

I expect Kikuchi and Mitch White to compete with a few additional candidates in ST for a rotation spot. White can be sent to AAA if he has any options left.

I think they will try for Verlander but so will many other teams. Verlander has proved that he has recovered from his injury. I can see him going to Boston.
85bluejay - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 09:26 AM EDT (#422857) #
The luck of the Rays - Cleveland has clinched their division and unlikely to change their seeding so not much to play for and the Astros will likely lock up the #1 seed by Friday
Mike Green - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 09:39 AM EDT (#422858) #
I missed this until today.  John Stearns died late last week. 

Stearns was a fine catcher of my youth- a good receiver with a fine arm and a good hitter with excellent plate control and medium range pop.  He also ran well.  He would have made an excellent leadoff hitter, but this was the late 70s and he was a catcher without enough pop or batting average to be a 3 or 4 hitter, so most often he hit 6th or 7th.  Back then, Bill James was publishing little newsletters which he photocopied and mailed out to a few hundred diehards.  Anyways, Stearns' nickname was "Bad Dude" and apparently he was a tough hombre.

It would have mattered  whether Stearns batted sixth or first if they were a good club.  They never were during his time, and only became good after Gary Carter arrived to take Stearns' place when his career was derailed early by injury.  The most notable thing about the Mets' team of Stearns' era was their Manager- Joe Torre.  Torre began his managerial career at the age of 36 with the Mets during that time.  It would be almost 20 years until he hit paydirt with the great Yankee clubs of the late 90s. 

Stearns made a brief foray into managing himself, landing in Knoxville (the longtime Blue Jay double A affiliate)  in 1990-91 where he managed Pat Hentgen, Juan Guzman, Jeff Kent,  Woody Williams, Vince Horsman, Randy Knorr and several others. 

Leaside Cowboy - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 10:50 AM EDT (#422860) #
The Maple Leafs (Saturday vs. Detroit) and Raptors (Sunday vs. Chicago) play exhibition games at Scotiabank Arena during MLB wildcard weekend.

Could be a scene in downtown Toronto if the Blue Jays can maintain the 1st WC.

Bauxites hanging out of car windows.
hypobole - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 12:40 PM EDT (#422861) #
Did I miss this upthread??

Money quote:

"Manoah is in the top 15 among qualified starters in innings, ERA, strikeouts, and WAR, but his pitching approach belies his youth. He throws reasonably hard ó though an average fastball velocity of 93.9 mph is nothing to write home about in this day and age ó but this year his ERA has gone down by eight tenths of a run while his strikeout rate has fallen by five percentage points. Thatís because heís allowing less hard contact than any other qualified starter in the game."
bpoz - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 12:43 PM EDT (#422862) #
When comparing the Rays to the Jays.

1) Payroll. Lets say the Jays are higher by $70 million. Ryu, Springer, Gausman, Kikuchi and Berrios are about $90 mil for 2022. So Jays are active with expensive players.

2) The Rays cannot generate high revenues. If the Rays win 92 games and the Jays 82 games the Jays still generate higher revenues in that season IMO.

3) In #2 above The Jays payroll is still decently higher than the Rays lets say $145 mil to $85 mil. Management and the FO probably want around $165 mil for payroll in this 82 win season. Revenues are probably very disappointing in this sample season and maybe next season due to fan expectations. Shapiro said that there has to be adequate winning to get a decent payroll for the next season.

The above is my understanding on how the Jays are currently being run. So those are the parts I will play with. A good but hard payroll level with a certain minimum revenue expectation dependent on winning success.
hypobole - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 01:28 PM EDT (#422864) #
So Vlad is now the MLB leader in GIDP's, with Bo 5th. They are both in the top 6 in PA's, so they have lots of opportunities, but here's the top 6 in PA's with GIDP's:

Semien 679 - 7
Lindor 673 - 11
Vlad 671 - 25
Freeman 669 - 6
Turner 669 -9
Bo 665 -20

Part is the player, but is the coaching to blame even more? League average GB% is 42.8%.

11 Jays have 200 PA's. Only 3 are below 42.8%, Biggio 35%, Jansen 34.2% and Chapman 33.1%. Those 3 have 9 GIDP's total.
scottt - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 01:44 PM EDT (#422865) #
They attack Vlad with balls at the knees or below.
He's gonna have to practice golfing those on the green.

Nigel - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 02:09 PM EDT (#422866) #
I said this a few weeks ago in that Manoah reminds me of Halladay in that his primary gameplan is to seek soft contact rather than simply swing and miss. As the year has gone on, you can see him work to find that in game more and more. Strikeouts are communist.
Mike Green - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 02:46 PM EDT (#422867) #
Strikeouts are communist? I thought that strikeouts were pitchers taking outs for themselves rather than sharing them around.

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" was a sexist saying from Ayn Rand, wasn't it? Hmm. Let's call Crash Davis and get his take.
hypobole - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 03:05 PM EDT (#422869) #
Ask Gausman about contact, when half the batters he faces are Wee Willie Keelers.
Nigel - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 03:11 PM EDT (#422870) #
Poor attempt at humour on my part:) I'll try again - Strikeouts are what all the kids are wearing
Mike Green - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 03:21 PM EDT (#422871) #
I had thought that GIDP were accounted for in wRC+.  They are not (Fangraphs uses wOBA in its calculaton of wRC and then normalizes), and I don't understand the reason for it. 

How much of a difference would it make?  Well, Danny Jansen and Vladdy have the same wRC+, 132, but Jansen has grounded into 1 double play in 220 PAs and Vladdy has grounded into 25 double plays in 671.  If we pro-rate Jansen's figures to Vladdy's PAs and add in a little for the extra opportunities because Vladdy has had Springer and sometimes Bichette hitting in front of him, that would be Jansen with 5 GIDPs to Vladdy's 25.  Those extra 20 outs would almost exactly wipe out Vladdy's .292- .241 BABIP advantage on Jansen (.249 to .241).  Jansen walked more 10% to 8.2%, struck out a little bit more (16.8% to 16.5%) and hit for a lot more power (IsoP .241 to .204). 
Mike Green - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 03:26 PM EDT (#422872) #
Gausman's barrel percentage, average exit velocity, sweet spot % and hard-hit ball rate are all above average.  Opposing batters more like Joe Mauer than Wee Willie Keeler when they put the ball in play, but results similar. 
grjas - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 04:17 PM EDT (#422873) #
Vlad: ďMaybe I'm putting a little bit more pressure on myself, I guess, especially with runners in scoring position. But I'm seeing that already, so I'm trying to work on that and now I'm starting to take whatever they give me. I trust my teammates, whoever is hitting behind me, and if they give me the walk, I take my walk.ĒÖMay 20, 2022

Meanwhile, four months laterÖ
Magpie - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 04:23 PM EDT (#422874) #
You would expect the Jays as a team to hit into lots of DPs - they put lots of people on base, they don't invest much in the one-run strategies, and they don't strike out very often. It's the price of doing business. Plus they're almost top to bottom RH batters. The major difference between Jansen and Guerrero, who don't strike out very often at all - even for Blue Jays! - is that Jansen, like Chapman and Biggio, almost never hits the ball on the ground. All three of them - Jansen, Chapman, Biggio - seldom hit into DPs. They don't get as many hits on their Balls In Play, which is also part of the price of doing business. But the trade off is probably worth it.
Magpie - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 04:25 PM EDT (#422875) #
Strikeouts are communist?

I'm pretty sure Crash said they were fascist. And boring.
hypobole - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 04:43 PM EDT (#422877) #
Magpie, it's the ground balls that are the major reason.

Only 4 of 132 qualified MLB batters have a ground ball rate higher than Vlad's 52.7%. Kirk is 15th highest at 49.8%, Bo 22nd at 47.7%.
Magpie - Monday, September 26 2022 @ 05:42 PM EDT (#422880) #
Magpie, it's the ground balls that are the major reason.

Oh yes. Applies to almost the entire team (Chapman, Jansen, Biggio excepted.) They hit more balls on the ground. It leads to both more hits on their Balls In Play, and more DPs as well. You see the same thing with the White Sox.
scottt - Tuesday, September 27 2022 @ 09:34 AM EDT (#422916) #
White will be out of options just like Stripling has been.

It's going to be interesting to see what the demand for Stripling is.
I'm sure he'd love to be close to home in Texas.

scottt - Tuesday, September 27 2022 @ 09:41 AM EDT (#422918) #
That was a great game.
Vlad ran out a ground ball to get an infield hit.
Walking Judge with 3rd base empty was a great move.
The fans wearing wigs in the outfield particularly liked it.

Vlad finally got his share of ice water.

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