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Well, Boo Radley turned out OK, but what about Jim Thome? Reading this article about some Indian fans booing Thome made me think of some of the more acrimonious departures in recent years, in particular Jason Giambi, a player with a similar age and skills set. While I don’t begrudge those players for taking the money, I simply loathe their disingenuousness, as I’ve said before on this board. Just say it was about the money, already.



I am somewhat divided on this. Indian fans, perhaps, are more justified for booing Thome than A’s fans were in Giambi’s case. After all, Cleveland made a very competitive offer, and Thome had declared his intent to stay at the Jake the rest of his career. As BP says, it’s hard to walk away from $25 million, but when you’re already talking about $75 million, well, how much does one need?

Although Oakland also made a generous offer, Giambi never claimed to want to finish his career there. For my tastes, however, I can think of worse fates then playing on a team that could, quite possibly, win two or three titles in the next five years, while the Yankees reach the abyss and take the plunge, possibly as soon as 2004. Is an extra year of "security" and $2 million per that important? In addition, the Bay Area is a fantastic place to live. I moved away for financial reasons, but, as one of the few people who could actually afford to buy a home there, Giambi would have no such worries.

But that is old news. My question: when Carlos Delgado leaves as a free agent, after, say, the Jays offer him a three-year, $36 million extension, will you boo Delgado or tip your hat (or beret) to him during his first trip back to SkyDome?
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_Chuck Van Den C - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 06:55 AM EST (#94369) #
I remember Shaquille O'Neal's press conference when he signed with the Lakers. At one point, he tried out the line "it's not about the money". Then, both he and the media started laughing at the ridiculousness of the remark.
Coach - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 08:27 AM EST (#94370) #
Local hoops fans are not very fond of Tracy McGrady. It's sour grapes -- the Raptors simply couldn't afford to keep him and Vince -- and it's counter-productive for the home team, as T-Mac thrives on the negative attention, so there's no team he'd rather beat.

A's fans knew Giambi was unlikely to stay forever, so the point about Tribe fans feeling even more betrayed by Thome is valid. I don't think Barry Bonds is warmly received in Pittsburgh, even this long after his departure, and I'm sure Delgado will get a mixed response if (when) he returns to Toronto in another uniform. How is A-Rod treated in Seattle?

I confidently predict the real booing problem for Thome is going to occur in Philadelphia. He's traditionally a slow starter (.210/.363/.531 last April, with 25 whiffs in 81 AB) and his OPS is usually 300-400 points higher vs. RH than LH, so those tough NL southpaws will own him for a while. Last year the Yankee faithful were starting to get on their expensive new 1B until one swing in the rain turned him into the Giambino. Thome will need similar heroics, early, to avoid getting serenaded by the home boo-birds.
Coach - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 11:16 AM EST (#94371) #
This is off-topic, but I just noticed that today's game (1:00, Jays at Red Sox) will be shown on Boston TV channel WSBK, which many digital cable or satellite subscribers receive. It's also on the FAN 590. You may return to booing now.
Pistol - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 01:06 PM EST (#94372) #
Any time you can watch a ball game with the Jays and the Rem Dog, Jerry Remy, on commentary it's a good day.
_Cristian - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 02:38 PM EST (#94373) #
Why do we have to consider the hypothetical situation of Delgado leaving when we have the real example of Shawn Green.

I still can't stand that guy for taking off. I just hope that interleague play will bring the Dodgers into town one of these years so I can boo until my throat is sore.

By the way, Boo Radley wasn't a villian but a hero in To Kill a Mockingbird.
Gitz - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 03:30 PM EST (#94374) #
I know Boo Radley was a hero, which I indicated by saying he turned out OK.
_Mike - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 03:49 PM EST (#94375) #
The difference between Philly fans and Yankee fans is that Philly fans will boo Thome even if he hits the big HR.
_Mick - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 04:09 PM EST (#94376) #
A propos of nothing, one of my nicknames in high school was "Boo" because sophomore year someone decided I looked like the young Robert Duvall in the TKAM film. Two years later, I won a controversial student council election because my opponent put up campaign signs saying "Boo Who?" which everyone thought was clever -- and everyone thought were for me.

The intelligentsia of the mid-'80's all-boys Jesuit high school was, uh, less than stellar.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming, with Gregory Peck as Carlos Tosca and Mary Badham as "Scout" (out in the bushes looking to discover the next Manny Lee) in "You Kill Us, Mocking Birds" the Canadian classic story of a baseball team never quite able to get past the stage of teasing its fans into thinking another pennant is just around the corner ...
_Chuck Van Den C - Sunday, March 09 2003 @ 06:56 PM EST (#94377) #
Cristian: I still can't stand that guy for taking off. I just hope that interleague play will bring the Dodgers into town one of these years so I can boo until my throat is sore.

Strictly speaking, as a paying fan you have the right to boo. But I just don't get it.

While it was clear that he was heading for free agency and would likely leave town, Green was actually traded with a year left in his contract, so you might want to boo Gord Ash for making Green take off.

Why do fans begrudge players moving on to another city, whatever the reason, be it money, to be closer to home... whatever? If you took a job across the street because the pay was better, would you expect anyone to boo you?

Why do fans insist on taking it personally when players leave?

Green was a model employee when drawing a Blue Jay paycheque. He played hard. He played well. He was a seemingly upright and honourable person. He was a fine role model for kids. And he endured Cito Gaston jerking him around like he was a grade B prospect. Why be angry with him for preferring to receive market value for his services?
_Mike - Monday, March 10 2003 @ 09:03 AM EST (#94378) #
Well said, Chuck!
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